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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 31, 2024 18:20:57 GMT
I remember 30 years ago to get tickets for Wembley Stadium to see concerts and this was the old Wembley, all tickets were about £25 and you could go where you want in Wembley, standing/seating all the same price. Also for tickets I had to join a long queue at Virgin Megastore, Oxford Street.
I saw Oasis about 30 years ago also at the old Earls Court, with the Verve in support.
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Post by amyja89 on Aug 31, 2024 18:41:59 GMT
Dynamic pricing is incomprehensible to me. Really should be illegal.
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Post by aspieandy on Aug 31, 2024 20:42:46 GMT
All-in-all; Blur.
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Post by justfran on Sept 1, 2024 9:11:45 GMT
Everyone on X is up on arms about about Ticketmaster and hiking up the prices after tickets have gone on sale. I might be wrong but aren't Ticketmaster just the retail outlet for the tickets and, although they charge a massive booking fee, they don't set the ticket prices. Isn't that the producers of the concert. So shouldn't the complaints be aimed at the producers or the group? Yes that’s correct- the promoter of the gig sets the ticket prices, not Ticketmaster or any other ticket agency. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 1, 2024 12:52:40 GMT
This isn’t sounding like it’s going to be a happy experience. Woman on the radio this morning urging people strongly to take out the cancellation insurance despite the extortionate £30 per ticket upsell because of the “volatile” nature of the band and the events. Even then I’m sure the TM insurance won’t cover travel and accommodation losses. Manchester Premier Inn prices currently hiked up to £336 per night, normal price £48.
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Post by marob on Sept 1, 2024 13:07:51 GMT
Everyone on X is up on arms about about Ticketmaster and hiking up the prices after tickets have gone on sale. I might be wrong but aren't Ticketmaster just the retail outlet for the tickets and, although they charge a massive booking fee, they don't set the ticket prices. Isn't that the producers of the concert. So shouldn't the complaints be aimed at the producers or the group? Yes that’s correct- the promoter of the gig sets the ticket prices, not Ticketmaster or any other ticket agency. But then surely the prices wouldn’t jump up if there wasn’t a mechanism in place to allow that? So it’s six of one, half a dozen of the other. Can’t see the government ever doing anything about it. Protecting consumers is never high on the agenda. |
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Post by justfran on Sept 1, 2024 14:12:42 GMT
It will be agreed in advance that when there are only x amount or a certain percentage of tickets left that the price changes to the new price. Ticketmaster themselves do not have control over or set any gig prices. They do set their fees, which are usually a percentage of the ticket, this is why the fees are higher on a higher price ticket even though the transaction (i.e. buying however many tickets you are getting) is the same. I agree that something should be done about it, it seems ridiculous to pay hundreds of pounds just for a gig ticket.
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Post by kathryn on Sept 1, 2024 20:43:32 GMT
Everyone on X is up on arms about about Ticketmaster and hiking up the prices after tickets have gone on sale. I might be wrong but aren't Ticketmaster just the retail outlet for the tickets and, although they charge a massive booking fee, they don't set the ticket prices. Isn't that the producers of the concert. So shouldn't the complaints be aimed at the producers or the group? Yes that’s correct- the promoter of the gig sets the ticket prices, not Ticketmaster or any other ticket agency. Ye-es. But, don’t forget that in some places LiveNation, who own Ticketmaster, also own the venues and are the default promoter for tours. Not in this case - the Oasis tour is not promoted by LiveNation, but certainly in the US for the likes of Taylor Swift. So some people are rather sceptical about Ticketmaster blaming promoters when for many tours it’s the same parent company who is the promoter |
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Post by duncan on Sept 2, 2024 11:49:20 GMT
Glad to see the media have finally discovered dynamic pricing.
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 2, 2024 12:47:52 GMT
Oasis have royally screwed the Fringe next year. What bright spark booked dates in Edinburgh for the first weekend of the Fringe? As if accommodation wasn't expensive enough! I'm seeing hotels for £800+!
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Post by jojo on Sept 2, 2024 17:24:10 GMT
Genuinely hope that for those who want to go, you all get tickets and it is as epic as you want it to be. For me, Liam Gallagher is one personality that I intend to make sure never gets a penny of my money through record sales or concert tickets. I like some of their music but I can’t get past him. Happy to leave this to the many thousands who disagree and will have a great time. I have always enjoyed the music of Oasis in spite of Oasis, and especially Noel. I thought I'd try getting tickets because they are a band of my youth, and it should be a fun experience, and would commit to avoiding any interviews with them to avoid being annoyed. But I failed to get a pre-sales code, and spent most of Saturday morning trying to login, then in a queue to join a queue, then getting kicked out, then being accused of being a bot, then back in a queue for a queue. I'm fortunate in that I can get to Murrayfield without having to book a hotel, and had hoped that would work in my favour, but not this time. I'm not hugely gutted, but may try again if there are more dates announced. I'll be interested to see what happens with the dynamic pricing. It's already pretty dodgy, but to spring it on people who have spent hours in a queue is unethical, and should be illegal if not already the case. My theory is that they agreed to tour because they couldn't handle seeing Taylor Swift's success. I don't know what their views are on her, but based on previous comments about women in the music industry, and anyone who isn't a blokey guitar band playing Glastonbury, I suspect they couldn't stand all the talk about the records she was breaking. The talk of all the money she was making being a bonus. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Sept 2, 2024 17:55:44 GMT
Didn’t Oasis do a song called nostalgia supernova?
People just need to learn patients, listening to the radio this morning and someone paid just under £2k for 4 tickets at Cardiff, which is barmy. There will be more tickets released and dates added and will be relative straightforward to obtain if peo0le just wait.
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Post by lynette on Sept 2, 2024 23:26:06 GMT
Sorry, people, but the way fans are exploited is terrible. People having hotels cancelled, then have to rebook at three times the price? Unscrupulous money grabbers.
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Post by jojo on Sept 3, 2024 10:17:56 GMT
Didn’t Oasis do a song called nostalgia supernova? People just need to learn patients, listening to the radio this morning and someone paid just under £2k for 4 tickets at Cardiff, which is barmy. There will be more tickets released and dates added and will be relative straightforward to obtain if peo0le just wait. That's my assumption. It's going to be interesting to see if there are any (additional) legal repercussions for the inflated prices when they announce extra dates. They first announced they'd be playing Friday and Saturday at Murrayfield, then after they'd gauged interest from pre-sale registrations added the Tuesday. It is incomprehensible to me that they didn't also decide to play Sunday and/or Monday at the same time. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Sept 3, 2024 11:06:25 GMT
Sorry, people, but the way fans are exploited is terrible. People having hotels cancelled, then have to rebook at three times the price? Unscrupulous money grabbers. Totally agree, something really needs to be done |
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Post by kathryn on Sept 3, 2024 12:18:07 GMT
As several people have noted, it is going to be ruinous for the Edinburgh Fringe, which is already incredibly expensive
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 3, 2024 12:52:07 GMT
As several people have noted, it is going to be ruinous for the Edinburgh Fringe, which is already incredibly expensive I don't think The Fringe Society realize quite how disastrous it is. This doesn't just affect a few days. This will affect thousands of performers who now can't get a room for a month due to those few days for the gigs already being booked. That being the case, how does the Fringe even happen properly next year? Will we see performers doing short runs in the weeks after the gigs? Short run in the first week then back for the end? |
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Post by Jon on Sept 3, 2024 12:54:55 GMT
As several people have noted, it is going to be ruinous for the Edinburgh Fringe, which is already incredibly expensive I don't think The Fringe Society realize quite how disastrous it is. This doesn't just affect a few days. This will affect thousands of performers who now can't get a room for a month due to those few days for the gigs already being booked. That being the case, how does the Fringe even happen properly next year? Will we see performers doing short runs in the weeks after the gigs? Short run in the first week then back for the end? I doubt they'd cancel the Fringe because of Oasis. |
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 3, 2024 13:01:43 GMT
I don't think The Fringe Society realize quite how disastrous it is. This doesn't just affect a few days. This will affect thousands of performers who now can't get a room for a month due to those few days for the gigs already being booked. That being the case, how does the Fringe even happen properly next year? Will we see performers doing short runs in the weeks after the gigs? Short run in the first week then back for the end? I doubt they'd cancel the Fringe because of Oasis. Not but it's a huge problem isn;t it? An influx of hundreds of thousands of people who have already booked accommodation for a few days mid Fringe. I have no idea what the answer is, I've seen some performers on Twitter even suggest moving the Fringe to mid August to mid September. |
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Post by Jon on Sept 3, 2024 13:03:47 GMT
I doubt they'd cancel the Fringe because of Oasis. Not but it's a huge problem isn;t it? An influx of hundreds of thousands of people who have already booked accommodation for a few days mid Fringe. I have no idea what the answer is, I've seen some performers on Twitter even suggest moving the Fringe to mid August to mid September. Moving the Fringe would be tricky because it'll clash with schools starting again in Scotland. |
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Post by aspieandy on Sept 3, 2024 13:54:51 GMT
I've booked a chalet in one of those tasteful static caravan parks for early May - nice base for exploring on the bike and can easily add camping somewhere before or after if weather is ok. It's 13 miles from Edinburgh centre, very easy on the local bus but almost an hour with all the stops. Just checked it for the Oasis dates and the usual price for schhool hols; chalet for 4 people for 4 nights is £319 - £20 a night each << Just an example: improvise, adapt, overcome. Won't appeal to everyone.
It's a big tourist city, it can handle 3 gigs at the rugby stadium- capacity is 67K for sport, a concert can't be more than 40-45K.
If social media is your main ref point, things can soon spiral to hair-on-fire #armageddon #hashtags |
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 3, 2024 14:10:46 GMT
Do we need the army on the streets!?!?
I've booked a chalet in one of those tasteful static caravan parks for early May - nice base for exploring on the bike and can easily add camping somewhere before or after if weather is ok. It's 13 miles from Edinburgh centre, very easy on the local bus but almost an hour with all the stops. Just checked it for the Oasis dates and no change; chalet for 4 people for 4 nights is £319 - £20 a night each << Just an example: improvise, adapt, overcome. Won't appeal to everyone.
It's a big tourist city, it can handle 3 gigs at the rugby stadium- capacity is 67K for sport, a concert can't be more than 40-45K.
If social media is your main ref point, things can soon spiral to hair-on-fire #armageddon #hashtags That's true, but I think the difference here is that this is an influx of 45k people per gig in the middle of an event where there is already an influx of thousands of extra people. |
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Post by aspieandy on Sept 3, 2024 14:14:21 GMT
Well, cities cope very well with marches and other forms of protest. London is bigger but 150k - 250K through the West End on a Saturday afternoon solidarity march is common place atm (matinee crowds + been the height of tourist season, as well).
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Post by mkb on Sept 3, 2024 14:46:47 GMT
The Crucible comes to mind in the way in which people have been caught up in the hysteria of the moment.
It's not as if Oasis are/were a great live band. I saw them on their last stadium tour, and it was very much a three-star affair.
They attract considerably more than their fair share of k*heads amongst the crowd too, which I suppose is apt given past behaviour of the Gallagher brothers and their apparent current penchant for fleecing fans. Even before the tout pricing that they could have chosen not to be part of, it's not like the original £135 price to stand is in any way an acceptable amount. It's a crazy price.
I've just paid £60 more than that to see bands from a choice of around 340 sets over four days and eight arenas, all indoors, all up close if I want, next summer. There are plenty of options to see quality live music without being ripped off and without being underwhelmed ultimately.
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Post by amyja89 on Sept 3, 2024 15:34:01 GMT
It's the kind of hysteria I would expect from a well timed reunion, which this is.
I saw them in 2009 on what transpired to be their last tour. That's 15 years ago. Any teenager/young person 15 years ago that has grown a love for them in the meantime will now have disposable income of their own, added to the mix of fans who were there from the start or the early 2000s.
I remember the hype around that first Spice Girls reunion circa 2007. The same chaos of ballots and pre-sale codes etc etc. I was in sixth form at the time and people were losing their minds over it, taking days off school to make sure they could get tickets (early smartphone days, unreliable gadgets!!).
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