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Post by elfman1 on Nov 24, 2024 17:43:42 GMT
Wait. Who is Higgins? Is he hot? I may change my mind David Seadon-Young |
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Post by nash16 on Nov 24, 2024 20:55:17 GMT
That's the stupidest ending they could possibly come up with - what about the previous nearly 3 hours can POSSIBLY lead Nikolai to that conclusion. To make it “edgy” and get the reviewers in a flap/publicity? She’ll re enter carrying their child come Press Night. |
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Post by Seriously on Nov 24, 2024 21:29:02 GMT
"Eliza! Where the devil are my condoms?"
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 25, 2024 9:55:57 GMT
It just solidifies my belief that Nikolai is a terrible director and has absolutely no idea what he's doing most of the time.
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Post by 141920grm on Nov 25, 2024 11:16:56 GMT
Ok, overreaction much all... it's literally just {Spoiler - click to view}an enthusiastic kiss and who knows how it'll be for 2nd preview tonight |
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 25, 2024 12:03:19 GMT
It's not an overreaction - that as an ending literally undoes the previous 2hrs and 50 minutes of show...
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Post by HereForTheatre on Nov 25, 2024 13:13:13 GMT
For health reasons I've not seen his couple of productions, or indeed any theatre in that time, but I don't think he's a terrible director. I did not like his TWOO at all but I thought his Billy Elliot was stunning and I'm rather upset it didn't get a further life. I thought his WSS was
very good and I loved his Sunset Boulevard before that. All those mentioned shows got very good reviews from the critics. I quite liked his A Chorus Line as well personally but it wasn't up to those others admittedly.
I know things like the use of the youth theatre and community theatre members ect in shows fir example has been moaned about alot with Curve shows but at the end of the day Curve is a charity and a community theatre, it's run for the community of Leicester, it's part owned by the council, things like their big Christmas show will feature kids and volunteers, it's geared towards that as well as being a regular commercial theatre production that wants good reviews and a chance of a further life.
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Post by FrontrowverPaul on Nov 25, 2024 13:32:15 GMT
I would confidently bet that 90% of the audience wants to see them get together at the end, as long as the age difference isn’t so much that it looks weird. Yes, I was there on Saturday, and while I thought we were heading for the alternative ending doing so would have disappointed far more people than it pleased. Can't have a "sad" ending at Christmas ! I've only seen the Eliza walks out alternative twice in about 30 amateur productions I've attended and first time it was quite a shock. Higgins gives a very physical performance and comes across as a mix of obnoxious/ pathetic / bombastic and verging on madness. He rushes around the stage and speeds up his songs quite noticably. He was sweating profusely several times. Several small additions have been made to this production (including to Zoltan Karpathy's role and adding some horses!) but the opening scene has been significantly cut, bringing run time down to 2 hours 40 minutes. I enjoyed it sufficiently to book a second visit in closing week. |
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Post by elfman1 on Nov 25, 2024 14:34:25 GMT
Honestly think Higgins should just get with Pickering feels like the more satisfying ending
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2024 14:42:59 GMT
Yeah I'm a bit surprised by the massive reaction on here.
The musical has always heavily leaned into the romance more, so this isn't really that much of a stretch from what's gone before. I think in many ways it's more even than him asking for his slippers which shows little change for him and has her potentially still at his command.
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 25, 2024 14:48:41 GMT
But...that's not My Fair Lady? In any iteration?
If you want to do a musical where the two leads get romantic together at the end, do another show 😂
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2024 15:04:20 GMT
But...that's not My Fair Lady? In any iteration? If you want to do a musical where the two leads get romantic together at the end, do another show 😂 Every version I've seen (didnt see broadway revival) has heavily implied romance between them at the end, including the movie. I get that this version isnt exactly subtle, but people are acting like Higgins stabs her to death |
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Post by erik24601 on Nov 25, 2024 16:21:58 GMT
Wait. Who is Higgins? Is he hot? I may change my mind David Seadon-Young Mind changed. |
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Post by theatreliker on Nov 25, 2024 17:10:52 GMT
Reminds me of that production of Sound of Music where Maria switches allegiances at the end and shops the Von Trapps in.
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Post by blamerobots on Nov 25, 2024 17:14:23 GMT
I get that this version isnt exactly subtle, but people are acting like Higgins stabs her to death I also think that'd be a much more interesting ending as well  A great director can still do a lot with the ending where she returns in person. She may have returned, but it doesn't explicitly show a romantic relationship. Eliza and Higgins' relationship can be played more co-dependent than romantic, and Eliza has grown to the point where she can have her independence if she wants to, so the ending can be Eliza wanting to return to a place of safety but she stills retains that independence. There is the ending line though, but that's for a director to figure out instead of me. That kind of ending could be even more downer than the one where she walks offstage if you play it as more of an abusive relationship.
That's the beauty of an ambigious ending like this as set out in the script (and in the Pygmalion film this took from, right?)
Lots of people rag on the revival for being all #MeToo but... honestly, if you came back to someone to make amends and they told you to go back to being a doormat, you'd also walk offstage, right? It just feels like in this case not much thought was put into realistic character motivation. Neither of them are madly in love with each other, there's the hints of it of course. The song is called "I’ve Grown Accustomed to Her Face". Literally "I've Gotten Used To Her Being In The House And, Now She's Gone, That Kinda Sucks." That doesn't particularly yearn for a happy ever after. This ending just feels blunt.
Higgins gives a very physical performance and comes across as a mix of obnoxious/ pathetic / bombastic and verging on madness. He rushes around the stage and speeds up his songs quite noticably. He was sweating profusely several times.
This confuses me even more. What the hell was the intention here?  Unless Eliza's grown accustomed to irritating, borderline insane guys. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 25, 2024 17:15:09 GMT
But...that's not My Fair Lady? In any iteration? If you want to do a musical where the two leads get romantic together at the end, do another show 😂 On that basis we should never have got “sexy” Oklahoma. Wasn’t Laurie lusting after Jud in that? Curly fancied him as well if I remember the chat at the time! |
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Post by 141920grm on Nov 25, 2024 18:55:25 GMT
Honestly think Higgins should just get with Pickering feels like the more satisfying ending Honestly! especially with all the fun moments they have in this version that I’ve previously not seen before in other productions 😂 |
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Post by David J on Nov 25, 2024 19:05:20 GMT
I liked the national theatre tour version where it ends with them laughing. To show that Eliza has forgiven Higgins but they remain friends
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Post by blamerobots on Nov 25, 2024 20:06:28 GMT
Reminds me of that production of Sound of Music where Maria switches allegiances at the end and shops the Von Trapps in. This video unfortunately won't embed but.. I thought of this video immediately after reading
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Post by SamB (was badoerfan) on Nov 26, 2024 19:51:58 GMT
I saw this last night and it's in remarkably good shape for still being in previews, with just one missed mic cue I spotted and something falling over with a bang backstage a few moments before the end. The only thing I question whether it'll stay in is the bit in I'm Getting Married in the Morning where the characters push along the front row - the row's too long for it to work and there's clearly no leg space, so it takes ages, people stand up to let them by and then you can't see anything... I don't really see what it achieves.
I've never seen My Fair Lady and actually had no idea the Curve had a reputation for stripped down productions - so I'm very glad this was a big production, with full staging, great sets, LOTS of people on stage... Molly Lynch is really great in the role.
A great view from the middle of Row N. Programmes were souvenir brochures only, £7, with lots of rehearsal photos, the usual cast/crew/song info, and several essays about the production, flower sellers, Covent Garden etc.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Nov 26, 2024 19:59:19 GMT
They have a reputation for stripped down yes but I'd like to emphasise that isn't for cost reasons or to make a cheap production most of the time, that is just the style they go with sometimes, WSS and BE both had stripped back staging compared to traditional productions but that was intentional and the staging they did use was very big and visually striking. From the pictures I've seen of this production they have kinda gone in between.
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Post by theatreliker on Nov 26, 2024 20:43:49 GMT
I like the stripped back staging they usually go for. Their stage is huge and it would be easy to stick a small set on it (like WoO) As it is they embrace its size. That sometimes doesn't pay off and I'm not a huge fan of the tendency towards video work but I enjoyed BE and WSS.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 27, 2024 7:56:02 GMT
They have a reputation for stripped down yes but I'd like to emphasise that isn't for cost reasons or to make a cheap production most of the time, that is just the style they go with sometimes, WSS and BE both had stripped back staging compared to traditional productions but that was intentional and the staging they did use was very big and visually striking. From the pictures I've seen of this production they have kinda gone in between. Erm no. They just don’t have the money to build a big set. It’s not just a creative choice. |
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Post by elfman1 on Nov 27, 2024 13:01:49 GMT
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 27, 2024 13:05:07 GMT
Oh dear.
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Unless Eliza's grown accustomed to irritating, borderline insane guys.
