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Post by ladidah on Apr 5, 2024 12:45:27 GMT
I thought Frank Skinner just finishes a stint in the west end, he's non stop!
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Post by mrmarmelstein on Apr 5, 2024 12:55:57 GMT
I very rarely click through to tabloid links, but the S*n are claiming that investors are worried they won’t make their money back and are threatening to pull out and therefore forcing it to close. Now I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure that’s not how theatre investments work…
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Post by Being Alive on Apr 5, 2024 12:56:45 GMT
I very rarely click through to tabloid links, but the S*n are claiming that investors are worried they won’t make their money back and are threatening to pull out and therefore forcing it to close. Now I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure that’s not how theatre investments work… 😂😂😂 LITERALLY not how it works. |
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Post by vickyg on Apr 5, 2024 13:22:38 GMT
What's the problem with saying a show is poor if it is? People on this board have been questioning how long it'll last since the first preview so it's not the papers, which came must later, causing the problem, it's the quality of the production. If they were ganging up to close the world's best show then I could see the issue but from the more than 70% 1* and 2* ratings here, that doesn't seem to be the case.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Apr 5, 2024 13:40:47 GMT
I very rarely click through to tabloid links, but the S*n are claiming that investors are worried they won’t make their money back and are threatening to pull out and therefore forcing it to close. Now I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure that’s not how theatre investments work… 😂😂😂 LITERALLY not how it works. How unlike the scum to get the story wrong |
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Post by woobl on Apr 5, 2024 15:51:11 GMT
I very rarely click through to tabloid links, but the S*n are claiming that investors are worried they won’t make their money back and are threatening to pull out and therefore forcing it to close. Now I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure that’s not how theatre investments work… 😂😂😂 LITERALLY not how it works. Investors would have invested and paid for the capitalisation of the pre-production costs - so everything before the weekly running costs which is usually covered by ticket sales. That said, if the producers are asking their investors for 'overcall' as the weekly tickets sales aren't covering running costs, that's a different matter (although most investor agreements have clauses against overcall). |
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Post by Jon on Apr 5, 2024 15:56:14 GMT
TBH investors of plays and musicals rarely make their money back.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2024 17:20:11 GMT
I only use the Daily Mail for their showbiz page which is a useful portal to keep up to date with what is going on. The Sun really ceased to be a paper of note several years ago IMO and would never review a show unless there was a "name" in it who probably got their kit off.
The majority of the press is Conservative and the Sun is "persona non gratia" in Liverpool due to their awful reporting of the Hillsborough tragedy. The DM is seen as some hard right paper or maybe that read by the working class hard right. I don't know if it has always been the case. The Express and DM were always pitched between the redtops and the broadsheets historically I thought.
Anyway back to Opening Night if it isn't doing well then surely the wheels would be in motion for it starting to look for a closing date unless there was a decent advance booking or they are shifting a lot of cheap seats. The Frank Farian/Boney M musical was widely panned but it ran for about 6 months so could Opening Night fulfill its run especially with a well known and popular star attached to the show.
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Post by benj on Apr 5, 2024 19:35:21 GMT
I only use the Daily Mail for their showbiz page which is a useful portal to keep up to date with what is going on. The Sun really ceased to be a paper of note several years ago IMO and would never review a show unless there was a "name" in it who probably got their kit off. The majority of the press is Conservative and the Sun is "persona non gratia" in Liverpool due to their awful reporting of the Hillsborough tragedy. The DM is seen as some hard right paper or maybe that read by the working class hard right. I don't know if it has always been the case. The Express and DM were always pitched between the redtops and the broadsheets historically I thought. Anyway back to Opening Night if it isn't doing well then surely the wheels would be in motion for it starting to look for a closing date unless there was a decent advance booking or they are shifting a lot of cheap seats. The Frank Farian/Boney M musical was widely panned but it ran for about 6 months so could Opening Night fulfill its run especially with a well known and popular star attached to the show. At least Daddy Cool, the Boney M Musical, had some great music to counter the cringey dialogue and ‘plot’. |
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Post by n1david on Apr 5, 2024 19:46:51 GMT
Although I didn't like the show, I really do hope that a cast recording emerges. I'm a Rufus Wainwright fan, and I'd like to hear the songs unencumbered from the staging. I don't have high hopes, but I'd like to have the chance to hear the music independently.
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Post by sph on Apr 6, 2024 2:02:11 GMT
A little hypocritical that the Daily Mail would write such disparaging articles about the show. Weren't they one of the ones that gave it a glowing four-star review?
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Post by stevej678 on Apr 6, 2024 6:41:12 GMT
A little hypocritical that the Daily Mail would write such disparaging articles about the show. Weren't they one of the ones that gave it a glowing four-star review? Is each tabloid only allowed to report on the bored and disappointed audiences if their publication gave its own scathing review? |
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Post by jek on Apr 6, 2024 7:43:44 GMT
These days Mark Lawson reviews for The Tablet, the Catholic weekly journal (he started his career at another Catholic paper, the Universe, so there is some symmetry in this). I have a subscription for academic research purposes. His review of this is headed 'Closing night beckons. A production not long for this world or good for the theatre'. It describes Smith as 'magnetically watchable in anything' but says that 'at every level, Smith deserves better'. In particular he says that Wainwright has written two operas and that his 'eccentric libretto......might have passed in the Linbury Studio at Covent Garden, but lands awkwardly in a populist genre prioritising rhyme and rhythm'.
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Post by A.Ham on Apr 6, 2024 8:20:57 GMT
Although I didn't like the show, I really do hope that a cast recording emerges. I'm a Rufus Wainwright fan, and I'd like to hear the songs unencumbered from the staging. I don't have high hopes, but I'd like to have the chance to hear the music independently. Yes, agreed. I’d really like to hear it again, especially the song in Act 1 that was performed as a quartet (almost like two duets juxtaposed against one another). I don’t even know the song name as they weren’t in the programme! |
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Post by Steve on Apr 6, 2024 11:29:19 GMT
Yes, agreed. I’d really like to hear it again, especially the song in Act 1 that was performed as a quartet (almost like two duets juxtaposed against one another). I don’t even know the song name as they weren’t in the programme! I loved that song too. I called it "One More Dream," as that was the key refrain, but the critics got a songlist, and they named it "Talk to Me," so that's it.  |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Apr 6, 2024 11:30:37 GMT
Amazed this hasn’t announced a closing date yet. There’s tumbleweed blowing through that box office.
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Post by A.Ham on Apr 6, 2024 11:48:04 GMT
Amazed this hasn’t announced a closing date yet. There’s tumbleweed blowing through that box office. As of 12.45pm I can still get a pair of Rush tickets for tonight… not great on a Saturday 😟 |
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Post by Being Alive on Apr 6, 2024 11:50:01 GMT
Yes, agreed. I’d really like to hear it again, especially the song in Act 1 that was performed as a quartet (almost like two duets juxtaposed against one another). I don’t even know the song name as they weren’t in the programme! I loved that song too. I called it "One More Dream," as that was the key refrain, but the critics got a songlist, and they named it "Talk to Me," so that's it. It's an absolutely stunning song, that says so much by saying so little. Will be on repeat with a cast recording. |
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Post by theatrefan62 on Apr 6, 2024 12:42:18 GMT
Didn't it have a large advance? I'd have thought Sheridans name would have at least generated good advance sales
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 6, 2024 13:04:25 GMT
Goodness me
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Post by mrbarnaby on Apr 6, 2024 13:08:40 GMT
Absolutely horrific.
The only way this will get a cast recording is if Rufus W funds it himself.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 6, 2024 13:15:22 GMT
Who is that man with bare feet? I don’t like him.
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Post by Being Alive on Apr 6, 2024 13:19:09 GMT
I like the curtain call - fun that it's something a bit different 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by theatrefan62 on Apr 6, 2024 13:23:23 GMT
God that's awful, and they all seem embaressed by it. Maybe if they all committed to whatever it is then it wouldn't be so bad, but they all seem low energy and awkward.
And that set, it looks like they've dragged random pieces together rather than a cohesive design. And that curtain looks cheap af!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 6, 2024 13:27:42 GMT
What was the direction I wonder?
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