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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 11:14:05 GMT
Some of the replies to her tweet saying it's ok to sing are worrying. Hardly unexpected, though. At once time I'd have thought "don't sing along at a musical" would have been one of those things that simply didn't need to be said, like "don't stick a fork into your eye". I'm sure nobody would talk along with the non-musical parts or at a play*, so why think it's OK to sing along? * I'm prepared to be disappointed. |
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Post by CG on the loose on Dec 12, 2016 10:50:22 GMT
Carrie says more about it in her own vlog... from c.5mins
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 11:24:11 GMT
Carrie says more about it in her own vlog... from c.5mins I know some people seem to have a strong (yet ridiculous) disliking for her on here, but she has a point. |
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Post by kathryn on Dec 12, 2016 12:20:05 GMT
Some of the replies to her tweet saying it's ok to sing are worrying. Hardly unexpected, though. At once time I'd have thought "don't sing along at a musical" would have been one of those things that simply didn't need to be said, like "don't stick a fork into your eye". I'm sure nobody would talk along with the non-musical parts or at a play*, so why think it's OK to sing along? * I'm prepared to be disappointed. Haven't there been reports of people watching Hamlet muttering along to 'To be or not to be...'? Or is that a theatre urban myth? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 13:00:24 GMT
Hardly unexpected, though. At once time I'd have thought "don't sing along at a musical" would have been one of those things that simply didn't need to be said, like "don't stick a fork into your eye". I'm sure nobody would talk along with the non-musical parts or at a play*, so why think it's OK to sing along? * I'm prepared to be disappointed. Haven't there been reports of people watching Hamlet muttering along to 'To be or not to be...'? Or is that a theatre urban myth? Ah yes, that famous quote: "To be or not to be, that is the question. Whether ... erm ... outrageous arrows ... something about arms going to sleep ..." |
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Post by richey on Dec 12, 2016 13:06:07 GMT
Carrie certainly does have a point in that vlog, but whoever did the subtitles should be shot! Hilarious "Beverly night has been carved..."?!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 12, 2016 13:18:25 GMT
When I had a stand up row with a pair of chavs at the end of Little Shop of Horrors the other week (as reported in bad behaviour thread), and said to them that people hadn't bought tickets to hear THEM sing, they seemed genuinely incredulous that singing during the show might not actually be normal behaviour.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 12, 2016 13:19:24 GMT
Carrie certainly does have a point in that vlog, but whoever did the subtitles should be shot! Hilarious "Beverly night has been carved..."?! All that annoying quickfire editing too. Soooo pretensh. |
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Post by d'James on Dec 12, 2016 13:58:55 GMT
Carrie says more about it in her own vlog... from c.5mins I know some people seem to have a strong (yet ridiculous) disliking for her on here, but she has a point. I don't think you should call other people's opinions ridiculous, however much you disagree. She does have a point, but I fear she's preaching to the converted and her message won't get through to those who need to hear it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 14:00:34 GMT
Actually given (as discussed in relation to Carrie previously) that she has a lot of non-theatre fans who go to the theatre for the first time to see her, some of her audience might well benefit from the message!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 14:15:08 GMT
Hardly unexpected, though. At once time I'd have thought "don't sing along at a musical" would have been one of those things that simply didn't need to be said, like "don't stick a fork into your eye". I'm sure nobody would talk along with the non-musical parts or at a play*, so why think it's OK to sing along? * I'm prepared to be disappointed. Haven't there been reports of people watching Hamlet muttering along to 'To be or not to be...'? Or is that a theatre urban myth? I've definitely had people reciting along with various Shakespeare plays. We get it, you recognise the quote, but frankly it's Shakespeare, no one's impressed that you do! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 0:00:34 GMT
So much singing during the show tonight, it was ridiculous. I had to cover one ear with my hand at one point so I could hear Rachel John and Beverley Knight's glorious voices (which were why I went to see it in the first place) rather than the drunken divas sitting behind me.
And worse still was the attention-seeking idiot who called out in the silence before the big note in I Will Always Love You (I must be really unlucky, same thing happened when I saw Dreamgirls last month!). Beverley was (rightly) so unimpressed - she stopped singing and just held the microphone until the audience had gone quiet, then resumed the song on her terms, so good on her! If looks could have killed her stare would have roasted the idiot who ruined the moment!
I'd never seen the show before, and I have to admit I've never seen the film either. I went purely to see Beverley and Rachel, both of whom I think are fabulous, before they disappear off to Canada with this show and we're deprived of their talent in the West End for a while. I thought they were both outstanding (though I think Memphis as a show suited both of them better and their accents were better then!), but I found the show as a whole a mess - it just jumps from scene to scene without any real connection, the story isn't done justice at all and it ends so abruptly. Though it does have the best curtain call to a musical since Mamma Mia. Not one I'll be going back to see if it ever does return, but hopefully its leading ladies will be back in London sometime soon!
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Post by Ade on Jan 6, 2017 6:48:25 GMT
So much singing during the show tonight, it was ridiculous. I had to cover one ear with my hand at one point so I could hear Rachel John and Beverley Knight's glorious voices (which were why I went to see it in the first place) rather than the drunken divas sitting behind me. And worse still was the attention-seeking idiot who called out in the silence before the big note in I Will Always Love You (I must be really unlucky, same thing happened when I saw Dreamgirls last month!). Beverley was (rightly) so unimpressed - she stopped singing and just held the microphone until the audience had gone quiet, then resumed the song on her terms, so good on her! If looks could have killed her stare would have roasted the idiot who ruined the moment! I'd never seen the show before, and I have to admit I've never seen the film either. I went purely to see Beverley and Rachel, both of whom I think are fabulous, before they disappear off to Canada with this show and we're deprived of their talent in the West End for a while. I thought they were both outstanding (though I think Memphis as a show suited both of them better and their accents were better then!), but I found the show as a whole a mess - it just jumps from scene to scene without any real connection, the story isn't done justice at all and it ends so abruptly. Though it does have the best curtain call to a musical since Mamma Mia. Not one I'll be going back to see if it ever does return, but hopefully its leading ladies will be back in London sometime soon! Ugh I'm off to see this tomorrow night. I'm dreading the singing issue. Last time I saw this was the first preview of this run and I think I must have been in a lucky spot as I didn't have anyone around me misbehaving. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 13:04:31 GMT
So much singing during the show tonight, it was ridiculous. I had to cover one ear with my hand at one point so I could hear Rachel John and Beverley Knight's glorious voices (which were why I went to see it in the first place) rather than the drunken divas sitting behind me. And worse still was the attention-seeking idiot who called out in the silence before the big note in I Will Always Love You (I must be really unlucky, same thing happened when I saw Dreamgirls last month!). Beverley was (rightly) so unimpressed - she stopped singing and just held the microphone until the audience had gone quiet, then resumed the song on her terms, so good on her! If looks could have killed her stare would have roasted the idiot who ruined the moment! I'd never seen the show before, and I have to admit I've never seen the film either. I went purely to see Beverley and Rachel, both of whom I think are fabulous, before they disappear off to Canada with this show and we're deprived of their talent in the West End for a while. I thought they were both outstanding (though I think Memphis as a show suited both of them better and their accents were better then!), but I found the show as a whole a mess - it just jumps from scene to scene without any real connection, the story isn't done justice at all and it ends so abruptly. Though it does have the best curtain call to a musical since Mamma Mia. Not one I'll be going back to see if it ever does return, but hopefully its leading ladies will be back in London sometime soon! Ugh I'm off to see this tomorrow night. I'm dreading the singing issue. Last time I saw this was the first preview of this run and I think I must have been in a lucky spot as I didn't have anyone around me misbehaving. I have seen the show 9 times (3 times at the Dominion) and it has never been an issue for me. I know this may be a lucky streak for me, but I honestly wouldn't worry about it too much.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 16:44:44 GMT
So as this closes tomorrow, does anybody know how well the run did box office wise?
I'll be interested to see what the show does in the Uk after it finishes in Toronto. They could tour it again but I think if they kept it in storage then the show could make an excellent filler for any theatre (like it did for the Dominion) as it will always be a popular show due to the title, Whitney songs and the celeb they get to play Rachel.
I hope the West End or the UK get treated to more of this show in the coming years - it's a great night out!!
Oh and I hope Rachel and Beverley continuing doing West End musicals for years to come!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 17:43:49 GMT
It is going on tour again in the UK. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 17:48:10 GMT
As for the Dominion, it did struggle. But not because of the show, because of the sheer size of the venue. If it was in a size theatre like the Adelphi, it would of been at least 75%/80% full every night. But because the show is double the size of a standard venue, it is near impossible for any show to sell well there. It has done average, the producers were stupid in their choice of venue is all.
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Post by Jon on Jan 6, 2017 18:03:34 GMT
As for the Dominion, it did struggle. But not because of the show, because of the sheer size of the venue. If it was in a size theatre like the Adelphi, it would have been at least 75%/80% full every night. But because the show is double the size of a standard venue, it is near impossible for any show to sell well there. It has done average, the producers were stupid in their choice of venue is all. They probably didn't have much choice venue wise, all the mid sized theatres were booked up and I imagine Nederlander, the theatre owner weren't expecting it to be a sell out, just a filler before the next show arrived. |
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Post by Kim on Jan 6, 2017 18:03:48 GMT
Oh good I didn't want to actually have any money in the near future 😹 although it does depend on cast
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 18:47:36 GMT
As for the Dominion, it did struggle. But not because of the show, because of the sheer size of the venue. If it was in a size theatre like the Adelphi, it would of been at least 75%/80% full every night. But because the show is double the size of a standard venue, it is near impossible for any show to sell well there. It has done average, the producers were stupid in their choice of venue is all. Yeah I think it would've done better at a smaller venue but it was only ever a strictly limited filler and if the producers wanted it back in London, it probably slided in nicely to fill the Dominion before American in Paris? Agree if the producers had it their way then it'd have done better though. Considering the size of the huge venue, I believe it did well at the Friday/Saturday shows? |
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Post by Kim on Jan 6, 2017 18:52:58 GMT
Out of all the shows I did it was only empty on the weds matinees not sure what the Monday nights were like, the only Monday night I did was Rachel's show which was busy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 19:00:01 GMT
Of the three times I went to the Dominion, it was about 90/95% full both times. Rachel's Monday show also was pretty musy, the Stalls at least were pretty full!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 19:06:51 GMT
It was pretty much full last night but I expect that's because it's about to close. I got a discounted seat on the day, but I noticed signs saying no day seats today or tomorrow due to demand.
I struggle to see why this is successful as anything other than people expecting a Whitney tribute night - the book is dreadful, the set looks cheap and the abrupt ending just doesn't work except as a lead in to a song. If it wasn't for the two talented leading ladies I'd have walked out at the interval!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 19:21:28 GMT
It was pretty much full last night but I expect that's because it's about to close. I got a discounted seat on the day, but I noticed signs saying no day seats today or tomorrow due to demand. I struggle to see why this is successful as anything other than people expecting a Whitney tribute night - the book is dreadful, the set looks cheap and the abrupt ending just doesn't work except as a lead in to a song. If it wasn't for the two talented leading ladies I'd have walked out at the interval! It's not a tribute night because they are singing and acting too. The book isn't that bad - okay it could be seen as cringey but it works well. There are a few funny moments in there. I love the ending! The one moment in time scene is brilliant and it really keeps you on your seat If you don't know what's happening! The song at the end gets everyone up having a good time. People go to this show expecting a good night with Whitney songs and Beverley Knight - if you want a dramatic, heart-braking musical then people would go to Les Mis. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 19:31:43 GMT
I don't think the book works at all in terms of serving its purpose of telling a story - I haven't seen the film so didn't have a clue what was going to happen, and I was thoroughly bemused at how dramatic moments just got swept aside - one moment it was implied the kid had been kidnapped, the next he's asleep in another room?! The IP address doesn't match - of course it wouldn't because the stalker sent letters, not emails! There's no real goodbye at the end at all. I'm afraid I found it laughably bad, and not in a so-bad-it's-good way like WWRY was. I thought the accents were for the most part pretty poor as well - only Rachel seemed to have a handle on what accent she was aiming for!
It doesn't have to be a fine piece of drama, but it does need to make sense and be easily followed!
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