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Post by Rory on Jan 16, 2023 6:10:20 GMT
Cast announced: Nancy Carroll, Richard Fleeshman, Tony Jayawardena and Anne Reid
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Post by londonpostie on Jan 16, 2023 7:32:52 GMT
Only 85! The lovely Anne Reid trying to get away with playing a younger woman again.
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Post by justsaying113 on Jan 16, 2023 8:40:09 GMT
It was also a film (who knew) with a pretty impressive cast:
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Post by drmaplewood on Jan 17, 2023 10:13:02 GMT
I liked the film well enough, intrigued by this.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jan 17, 2023 11:06:57 GMT
Not crazy about the plot description but love the cast!
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Post by nottobe on Mar 5, 2023 17:11:01 GMT
Anyone caught this yet? I'm seeing it on Friday and am quite excited as it sound very interesting and is a terrific cast.
Aside, I think the thread title is misspelt as I could easily find the thread, its Marjorie as opposed to Majorie.
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 5, 2023 17:34:55 GMT
I could easily find the thread We can't have that. 😉 Thanks for pointing it out. Now corrected.
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Post by jr on Mar 8, 2023 21:03:06 GMT
Any idea of running time for this? Can't find it on Menier's website.
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Post by marob on Mar 8, 2023 21:31:07 GMT
Any idea of running time for this? Can't find it on Menier's website. It is on there, just way down past all the booking dates. Says 85 minutes, no interval. … I see this is directed by Dominic Dromgoole. Is Classic Spring still around? Quite liked the Wilde season.
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Post by Steve on Mar 9, 2023 22:31:22 GMT
Saw this tonight and LOVED it. I booked for the actors, who are wonderful in this, and found that I was moved by the play: it reflects profoundly on what it means to be human: the role of memory, family relationships, hopes and dreams, as well as what it will be like to relate to artificial intelligence in the future. Some spoilers follow. . . So as not to get anyone's hopes up, I will confess that an old acquaintance found the play "monotone" and was annoyed by the narrow bench seating (she was overwhelmed on both sides by individuals who were larger than the narrow space they were allotted) and a new acquaintance felt short-changed by the running time (at 75 minutes straight through, some ten minutes shorter than advertised) which he felt underexploited the interesting themes touched upon. I myself absolutely loved this from start to finish, and unexpectedly found myself in tears on multiple occasions, sometimes laughing through tears. The set-up has Anne Reid's Marjorie, who has Alzheimers, relating to an artificial intelligence in the form of her husband, Walter, as he was at 30, played by Richard Fleeshman. Her daughter, Nancy Carroll's brittle Tess, is none too pleased, but her husband, Tony Jayawardena's kindly Jon, convinces her that they cannot always be there for Marjorie, and the AI can remember and restore memories to Marjorie as her mind fails her. From here, the plot takes many head spinning twists and turns, such that I was never sure who is the main character, or if the play even has one lol. But it's the themes that resonated for me: (1) the importance of memories; (2) whether pleasant fake memories are better than real unpleasant ones; (3) can machines be human?; (4) are humans machines?; (5) can AIs be like beloved pets, loved ones that never critique us and always pay us attention?; (6) is that a good thing?; (7) in a meta way, are the actors (pretending to be other people to share emotions and ideas with us) in front of us doing for us exactly what AI does for their characters?; (8) if we die when the last person who knew us does, then do we live even longer if an AI knows us; (9) are we more the real events that happen to us or the hopes and dreams we wish would happen to us? That one short play evokes so many profound questions and themes is remarkable, and the actors playing the parts are remarkable: Anne Reid evokes such a wealth of life lived, as well as the loss of it that dementia threatens, while simultaneously displaying pin sharp comic timing; Fleeshman's AI is at once robotic and immensely charming; Jayawardena creates in Tony a warm fragility that feels like the best of us; and aspects of Nancy Carroll's outwardly tough, inwardly fragile character reminded me so much of her Olivier award winning performance in "After the Dance." I thought this was terrific, but let the experiences of my acquaintances serve as a warning that you may not agree with me lol. 5 stars from me.
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Post by nottobe on Mar 11, 2023 9:50:51 GMT
I caught this last night with a Toaday Tix theatre week offer and found it to be an interesting and engaging play. I was drawn by the cast for this but also because the subject matter sounded interesting as you don’t often get too many sci fi plays. I would say Anne Reid’s character is the core character of the play and she was effortless in her performance and I’m glad I’ve seen her onstage. I was also excited to finally see Nancy Carroll onstage as I have recently been listening to her and Sarah Crompton’s podcast which I would definitely recommend. Carroll’s character probably goes through the biggest journey emotion wise and played it very well. The two supporting men, Tony Jayawardena and Richard Fleeshman, where just as good but obviously Fleeshman’s character means his part is quite tricky and not as emotions in-depth to play.
The play itself was a very subtle look at family, memory and AI. With another writer this premise could have become too clever and maybe a bit pretentious, however Jordan Harris keeps it simple. I would say I could see what he was going for with the final 20 minutes and it did work, but I was just a bit unsure about it being the best ending. Overall I would say it’s a 4 stars from me, but maybe get a cheap ticket as it isn’t very short.
And aside I haven’t been to the chocolate factory since She Loves Me and as a venue it is not good. It just feels not very inviting and the the bench seats in the auditorium where not good. It should be renamed the Cole Porter theatre as you are Cheek to Cheek with everyone.
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Post by mkb on Mar 11, 2023 17:29:34 GMT
Theatre called me in the past hour to say that tonight's show is cancelled due to illness. Disappointing, but managed to get £25 Rush tickets for The Great Britain Bake-Off instead.
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Post by nottobe on Mar 11, 2023 18:06:25 GMT
Theatre called me in the past hour to say that tonight's show is cancelled due to illness. Disappointing, but managed to get £25 Rush tickets for The Great Britain Bake-Off instead. Nancy Carroll did sound like she had a sore throat last night so imagine it may be that.
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Post by vickyg on Mar 13, 2023 17:45:12 GMT
I was supposed to be going tonight’s performance but have just been notified that it’s cancelled too. A shame as I was looking forward to it, but also secretly a bit happy that I don’t have to leave my house in the wind!
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Post by joem on Mar 19, 2023 11:35:14 GMT
Really enjoyed this. Didn't know much about it but had a spare evening and thought the cast looked good. Wasn't disappointed. It is a play which raises interesting questions about AI - its increasing importance, its use/misuse, the ethical factors which may inform on this. And of course, allied matters of relevance as will AI acquire sentience and/or rights? There's been plenty of interesting fiction around this subject including, fairly recently major novels by Ian McEwen and Kazuo Ishiguro.
Anne Reid was superb and stood out but the rest of the cast were no sludges and gave sensitive, nuanced performances which worked singly and as an ensemble. Nicely designed and staged this play. Jordan Harrison's play deserves a wider audience.
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Post by jr on Mar 20, 2023 12:16:09 GMT
I saw this last week. Very interesting play with great acting. I had seen Anne Reid on stage before but was not aware of Nancy Carroll (I saw her years ago at The talking cure but did not remember her), I really liked her performance.
It is well written play with an interesting topic, well directed, great set and lighting. I hope it will be seen by many, not sure if it will have potential for a transfer though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2023 13:26:56 GMT
I was just on the Menier site and it doesn't seem to be selling particularly well. I wonder if the somewhat muted and mixed praise in the reviews have put people off a bit.
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 20, 2023 13:55:49 GMT
It was on seat filler websites last week - I'm waiting for it to pop up again and then will go see it.
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Post by londonpostie on Mar 20, 2023 15:11:56 GMT
Though not at seat filler prices.
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Post by pledge on Mar 23, 2023 10:29:20 GMT
Thoroughly thoughtful (and thought provoking) nevertheless this was more a sequence of tableaux rather than a properly worked through drama; almost by definition we never really get to do more than cooly observe the characters and their situation, as distinct from becoming properly involved with them - and at 80 mins there was plenty of time left to do so. Really excellent performances all round, and I'm glad to have seen it, but in the end it felt rather unsatisfying - as most (currently fashionable) 80 mins plays so often do...
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Post by theatrefan2018 on Mar 24, 2023 7:12:53 GMT
"Marjorie Prime" is easily Jordan Harrison's best play. His two follow-ups - The Amateurs and Log Cabin - were sizable disappointments.
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Post by mkb on Apr 11, 2023 21:46:45 GMT
I'm a computer programmer by trade. In my 30s, I discovered the power of neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) to reprogram my own brain to overcome some serious mental health issues. With that back story, little did I realise that Marjorie Prime would play directly to subjects that fascinate me.
Although it's good to know nothing before going in, it was instantly clear that all was not right with Richard Fleeshman's stilted Walter. Channeling a cross between Max Headroom and Jimmy Carr, he had either embraced that plastic way of acting beloved of American daytime soaps, or he was doing a fine turn as an automaton. I'm being facetious: it was self-evidently the latter. Well, I wasn't expecting that.
Before long, there are a few more twists and turns, and the juxtaposition of the human and the artificial makes for some insightful comparisons as to what, if anything, is actually real about us, and what can be said to be unreal about the machines. We are firmly in the territory of Blade Runner and its equally brilliant sequel.
In those films, the deconstruction of the human psyche concludes that humans and machines are ultimately no different: programmed needs and innate ones amount to the same thing. Here, playwright Jordan Harrison seems to imply that maybe it's the machines that excel and the humans that are broken. What makes us human, with the need for human connection, is to be flawed and to so often fail at basic human interaction.
This piece could not work though without the steadily assured hand of director Dominic Dromgoole and master classes in acting from each member of the cast of four, which are worth the price of admission regardless of the somewhat slight narrative.
This is a strong four stars from me. Ideally, I'd have liked something a little longer and more in depth -- maybe the film version that I will now seek out delivers that? -- and I was rather distracted by the odd video backdrop that lies beyond the living room window. Rather than seat this parallel to the glass, the set designer has set it at an angle, flush with the rear wall of the stage. This creates a bizarrely unnatural perspective effect between scenes when the video image is wiped downwards as a sort of proxy for the curtain. That irked me far more than it should have, but I can be a bit too mechanical in my thinking sometimes.
Four stars.
One act: 19:36-20:50 (There is what felt like a skipped interval break after, I think, the third scene, at the 48-minute mark. I'm not sure if anything was gained by ploughing straight on.)
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Post by theatrelover123 on Apr 11, 2023 21:54:03 GMT
I'm a computer programmer by trade. In my 30s, I discovered the power of neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) to reprogram my own brain to overcome some serious mental health issues. With that back story, little did I realise that Marjorie Prime would play directly to subjects that fascinate me. Although it's good to know nothing before going in, it was instantly clear that all was not right with Richard Fleeshman's stilted Walter. Channeling a cross between Max Headroom and Jimmy Carr, he had either embraced that plastic way of acting beloved of American daytime soaps, or he was doing a fine turn as an automaton. I'm being facetious: it was self-evidently the latter. Well, I wasn't expecting that. Before long, there are a few more twists and turns, and the juxtaposition of the human and the artificial makes for some insightful comparisons as to what, if anything, is actually real about us, and what can be said to be unreal about the machines. We are firmly in the territory of Blade Runner and its equally brilliant sequel. In those films, the deconstruction of the human psyche concludes that humans and machines are ultimately no different; programmed needs and innate ones amount to the same thing. Here, playwright Jordan Harrison seems to infer that maybe it's the machines that excel and the humans that are broken. What makes us human, with the need for human connection, is to be flawed and to so often fail at basic human interaction. This piece could not work though without the steadily assured hand of director Dominic Dromgoole and master classes in acting from each member of the cast of four, which are worth the price of admission regardless of the somewhat slight narrative. This is a strong four stars from me. Ideally, I'd have liked something a little longer and more in depth -- maybe the film version that I will now seek out delivers that? -- and I was rather distracted by the odd video backdrop that lies beyond the living room window. Rather than seat this parallel to the glass, the set designer has set it at an angle, flush with the rear wall of the stage. This creates a bizarrely unnatural perspective effect between scenes when the video image is wiped downwards as a sort of proxy for the curtain. That irked me far more than it should have, but I can be a bit too mechanical in my thinking sometimes. Four stars. One act: 19:36-20:50 (There is what felt like a skipped interval break after, I think, the third scene, at the 48-minute mark. I'm not sure if anything was gained by ploughing straight on.) The film is just the play stretched out longer with more artful shots of the sea and a few different settings. I don’t think you will get any more from the film tbh.
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