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Post by Forrest on Jul 8, 2022 14:46:55 GMT
On a different note: I ended up seeing this twice, and really liked it. It is a pretty wordy play - not much happens, and the focus is on the dialogues, rather than events - and thus I enjoyed it better the second time around, because I knew what was coming and I had more time to take it in and process it. There were moments when it struck me as a bit "preachy", but overall it gave me a lot to think about, which I appreciate.
Noma is fantastic, and so is June Watson. The rest of the cast are really good too, although Torvald's restrained demeanor wasn't always convincing to me.
I'd say go see this with someone you enjoy talking to about worldviews, so you can dissect its ideas later (over a glass of wine or beer), because it is really good for that.
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Post by lynette on Jul 9, 2022 16:31:53 GMT
lynette , yes. The air con/ventilation (circulation of air?) is quite good. (I went last night and the only reason why I noticed was because I forgot to take a mask, which I'd normally wear in a theatre, and this made me slightly reassured. I was row A, right next to the stage, so perhaps it's a bit better there, but that I cannot be sure of. But it seemed pretty fine to me.) Yep, nice and cool throughout. Made it possible to concentrate on the ideas. Very well acted and presented though the contract between the original historical setting and the modern language jars at first. Then it dawns that the play reflects what it is about, the idea of what marriage is , then, now and in the future. Lots to chat about but not a first date…
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Post by vernongersh on Jul 9, 2022 21:11:34 GMT
Just saw the show (having never seen or read A DOLL'S HOUSE) and thought it was remarkably well acted. The writing is strong although I do wish it were a bit tighter as it felt longer than 90 min.
I had seen three of Hnath's plays - The Christians, Hillary & Clinton and Dana H - so had a sense of perspective but wasn't quite prepared for this. Noma is giving a tour de force at Donmar (yes air conditioned) Really had me thinking that Nora is quite awful - not for what she wanted and agree with her views on monogamy and relationships - but the general conceit of the play has me thinking more and more how unlikable of a character she really is. A very solid production and a good night out at the theatre. ***1/2 stars
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Post by vernongersh on Jul 9, 2022 21:13:26 GMT
Just saw the show (having never seen or read A DOLL'S HOUSE) and thought it was remarkably well acted. The writing is strong although I do wish it were a bit tighter as it felt longer than 90 min.
I had seen three of Hnath's plays - The Christians, Hillary & Clinton and Dana H - so had a sense of perspective but wasn't quite prepared for this. Noma is giving a tour de force at Donmar (yes air conditioned) Really had me thinking that Nora is quite awful - not for what she wanted and agree with her views on monogamy and relationships - but the general conceit of the play has me thinking more and more how unlikable of a character she really is.
Seating wise - I think pretty much every seat is quite good for this - and I'm super picky about seating. A very solid production and a good night out at the theatre. ***1/2 stars
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Post by greenswan on Jul 16, 2022 19:14:25 GMT
Saw this earlier today. Theatre was not quite full, so the aircon was working delightfully well.
Would say it could be shorter - the last 15 minutes drag but still enjoyable overall. Found myself sympathising with Nora quite a bit. Would have been nice to have seen the original first, a couple of times it did feel like allusions were made that were escaping me. Agree with 3.5 stars - think it's tightened up a bit reading the first contributions in the thread.
Disagree on the seating - would strongly recommend against where I sat (C30ish) as you see quite a lot of Nora's back and some intense scenes lose all impact because of this. Would say that while I loved the house in the beginning, this is badly staged in the round. The actors are much too static for long periods of time.
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Post by bordeaux on Jul 17, 2022 7:22:30 GMT
I'm afraid I found this a little dull. Neither the characters nor the story interested me. I see I booked my tickets in March, so something about the American reviews must have made me think this would be unmissable, as these days I book very little so far in advance before reviews. Reading them again, I see reference to screwball comedy and the plays's apparent wit - it's described as bitingly funny, sharp, ebullient and so on. None of which would describe the UK production. Even the play's defenders on here have not stressed its humour. An interesting example of how different US and UK perceptions of a play can be or how different the productions can be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2022 17:15:48 GMT
Yes, it was extremely funny in its American debut.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 17, 2022 18:41:46 GMT
My friends and I found this to be one of the best acted, directed, written and staged productions we have seen for a long time. I think it helped being centre of the second row of the Stalls facing the stage rather than upstairs or the other side of the stage. Completely surprised at how much I loved it after reading the reviews
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Post by greenandbrownandblue on Jul 17, 2022 18:58:20 GMT
My friends and I found this to be one of the best acted, directed, written and staged productions we have seen for a long time. I think it helped being centre of the second row of the Stalls facing the stage rather than upstairs or the other side of the stage. Completely surprised at how much I loved it after reading the reviews Agreed - saw it last night and thought it was beautifully acted by all 4 actors and a strong play. Does help if you're familiar with the Ibsen, but I think it does also work as a standalone. Some well written and thought-provoking debates. Lovely simple staging; I also really liked the opening with the house flying up.
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Post by bordeaux on Jul 18, 2022 15:53:42 GMT
A further concern, prompted by my visit to the Donmar, that has been brewing is that more and more theatres seem to be chasing the same plays, the same writers so they are losing their identity. The new Lucy Kirkwood or Suzanne Lori-Parks or Lynn Nottage or Mike Bartlett could pop up anywhere: Donmar, Almeida, Royal Court, National, Hampstead, Young Vic, Old Vic, Lyric Hammersmith. Theatres don't seem to have the long-term relationships with writers that they used to. This may not matter, of course, but it is certainly different to what I remember from my early theatre-going days in the late 80s-early 90s. And I think a lot more theatres are looking for new writing (it's not something the Donmar or Almeida were known for in the 90s for example).
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Post by nottobe on Jul 24, 2022 11:05:44 GMT
I saw this last night and while I enjoyed it, I wasn't really blown away. I have never seen A Dolls House live before but was excited to see this version. I do think this play brought up some interesting ideas and topics demonstrating that Ibsen's play is still relevant in our day but as a story it didn't quite do it for me. While Noma Dumezweni was good, I didn't really find her performance to be surprising and it felt very safe. I did enjoy the rest of the cast and thought they inhabited their characters well. I think for me I would have enjoyed the play to maybe dig deeper into what it is like for a mother to leave her children and focus on that sort of character study. It did bring up the debates of it being accepted for men to do so but not women and I would have liked this to be focused on more. I was reminded of the film The Lost Daughter which is a film I very much disliked but I find it intersting that they shared similar themes and maybe both fell a bit flat. Overall a fine play to get you thinking but maybe not as exciting as it was on broadway.
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Post by NorthernAlien on Jul 26, 2022 22:24:50 GMT
I have just booked to see this on Thursday - via a heavily discounted price on TodayTix (the midpriced tickets - £41 - are down to £25 on there - everything else is actually going for more than the Donmar's own price).
What on *earth* is going on that I have managed to book a ticket for both this, and the forthcoming The Trials, without much bother? I'd always been led to believe that getting a ticket to anything at The Donmar was like managing to find a golden needle in a haystack, so robust was the interest in absolutely anything they staged. Is this a post-pandemic reluctance to return on the part of the audience? Or something else?
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Post by adolphus on Jul 26, 2022 22:47:23 GMT
It was ridiculously "starry" at one point in the 90s and virtually a Members Club with people not even trying to book. It wasn't even possible to become a new member. All that changed thankfully, and I've seen many terrific productions there over the years, but a lot of Josie Rourke's choices left me cold and Im even less impressed by the new AD's programming. Saw Henty V at a cinema, and was glad I hadn't made the effort to see it live. From conversations, it's dropped off the radar for a lot of people who, like me, were once members
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Post by bordeaux on Jul 26, 2022 23:06:17 GMT
I have just booked to see this on Thursday - via a heavily discounted price on TodayTix (the midpriced tickets - £41 - are down to £25 on there - everything else is actually going for more than the Donmar's own price). What on *earth* is going on that I have managed to book a ticket for both this, and the forthcoming The Trials, without much bother? I'd always been led to believe that getting a ticket to anything at The Donmar was like managing to find a golden needle in a haystack, so robust was the interest in absolutely anything they staged. Is this a post-pandemic reluctance to return on the part of the audience? Or something else? Well, they're doing more new writing now, in this case a writer whom most of us, even those of us who see quite a lot of theatre, will not have heard of. And as Adolphus says, in the 90s in particular under Mendes, but also under Grandage in the 2000s it was known for very starry revivals for which you needed to be a member to get a seat for - I saw Nicole Kidman and Gwyneth Paltrow there for example as well as a lot of brilliant theatre actors. The Almeida was the same in the 90s (it's where Kevin Spacey first appeared in the UK, Juliette Binoche acted there etc) though with a different aesthetic. I rather miss those days.
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Post by dlevi on Jul 27, 2022 6:42:42 GMT
I saw this a couple of nights ago and thought it was thrilling on all levels - a superb choice of play on the Donmar's part, brilliantly acted from everyone and with taut, meticulous direction. The mystery to me is that the theatre was half empty ( or half full if you're an optimist). It's a small theatre with a somewhat starry ( for theatre fans at any rate) cast with for the most part terrific notices. Where is everyone? This, for me, is one of the theatrical highlights of the year.
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Post by cavocado on Jul 27, 2022 9:03:33 GMT
I enjoyed the performances in this but didn't love this play. I like plays that debate social issues, but this one didn't go deep enough into the debate or challenge its characters enough IMO. Nora felt oddly static as a character - most of her development had happened before this point, so there was a lot of dialogue filling in all the gaps about what's happened since she left, how she's changed, but for me that threw a light onto how little she moves on in the course of the play.
I don't think the title did this any favours. I think it probably works as a standalone drama, but the title imples that you need to have some knowledge of 'part 1'. That's hardly going to pull in occasional theatregoers or people who haven't heard of Ibsen (most people, in my experience).
Previous comments have mentioned how funny the US production was. I don't mind modern/anachronistic dialogue, but I sat there puzzling about the meaning of these English-accented actors speaking American slang - it often felt distancing rather than funny, and maybe undermined the play, which presumably was written for American actors. Would it have been better served by using American accents?
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Post by jm25 on Jul 28, 2022 21:05:44 GMT
Not bad. As others have said, not great, not even particularly memorable, but not bad. Decent acting, some interesting ideas, and I liked that it was pretty concise. The audience tonight seemed to find it pretty funny (on the way out I overheard someone say they couldn’t remember the last time a play had made them laugh so much) - can’t say I felt the same way bar the odd moment here and there.
Probably a 5/10 for me - rounded up to a very generous 3 stars.
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Post by NorthernAlien on Jul 28, 2022 22:23:54 GMT
Seen this evening, and absolutely loved it! The theme of marriage and how it effects the parties within it is sort of within the sphere of my academic research, so this was very definitely within my area of interest.
I've never been to the Donmar before, and I really liked it as a venue - they could, of course, do with having more toilets with cubicles in them, but that's true of almost every theatre, I think. Seats were fine for 90 minutes straight through, but I'd have to stand up at the interval for a longer show. It felt like there was air flow happening, but there were also more people wearing face masks than I've become used to, which was a pleasant surprise.
Row A in the Circle, and the view was fine - there were a very few moments when the barrier blocked my view of the actors, but only very few.
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