|
Post by scarpia on May 6, 2021 8:57:03 GMT
Technically it shouldn't matter about Billy Wilder's original. Yes it's a brilliant film, but A) it was 70 years ago, I think enough time has passed for someone else to have a go, and B) this would be the first time it's been made as the musical. It's not a remake, it's an adaption (and yes I can hear Norma's line about comebacks and returns in my head as I type this!) 😀 Paramount have nothing to lose at this point, especially when the expiry on copyright on the original is fast approaching. So one way or another Sunset will eventually be made with or without Paramount - so they might as well cash in on it now. The next few years should see a shakeup in Hollywood as copyrights expire and properties enter the public domain - Mickey Mouse enters the public domain in 2024 and major titles like Gone With The Wind will see both the novel and movie enter the public domain in the next 15 years too. Presumably this means we might see big named theatrical adaptations in the next decade or so, which could be exciting. The Wizard of Oz movie enters the public domain in 2034 so if it’s still running, Nessarose might finally be allowed to wear ruby slippers in Wicked. While it's true the copyright on the original will soon expire, I suspect it is very likely that (given they were co-producers of the original stage musical; it wasn't RUG going alone IIRC), Paramount also has a share in the film adaptation rights of the musical...and those won't expire any time soon. So I'd surprised if it can happen without Paramount agreeing.
|
|
2,848 posts
Member is Online
|
Post by couldileaveyou on May 6, 2021 13:43:01 GMT
As COVID restrictions ease up, Close is hopeful that she’ll finally be able to reprise her role as Norma Desmond in Paramount’s movie adaptation of the Broadway musical “Sunset Boulevard.” “We’re very very close,” she says. “We’re ready to go.” She says Andrew Lloyd Webber is still working on new music for the big screen version. “I feel passionate about it. I feel if I could just bring her home to the movies, I don’t give a sh*t what I do for the rest of my life. I’ll play grandmothers until I die.”
|
|
2,416 posts
|
Post by robertb213 on May 6, 2021 14:03:12 GMT
They just need to hurry up before this Norma is too old to handle that staircase any more and has to move into a nice bungalow in Palm Springs!
|
|
1,052 posts
|
Post by David J on May 6, 2021 14:16:04 GMT
She could always install a stair lift
|
|
2,242 posts
Member is Online
|
Post by richey on May 6, 2021 14:34:22 GMT
She could always install a stair lift well it worked for Mrs Overall in Acorn Antiques...
|
|
|
Post by scarpia on May 6, 2021 21:36:40 GMT
While it's true the copyright on the original will soon expire, I suspect it is very likely that (given they were co-producers of the original stage musical; it wasn't RUG going alone IIRC), Paramount also has a share in the film adaptation rights of the musical...and those won't expire any time soon. So I'd surprised if it can happen without Paramount agreeing. If the source material copyright expires and the source material is in the public domain why would adaption rights be required? Because the rights to adapt the Lloyd Webber stage musical into a film are separate (and nothing to do with) the copyright of the Billy Wilder film. Example: By the time the Phantom film was made, Gaston Leroux's novel was no longer in copyright. However, that is a separate right from the rights to adapt the ALW musical into a film. ALW had already sold those rights to Warner Bros in the early 1990s, so he had to buy them back from WB (at no less than £1m, IIRC) in order to get the 2004 film made. In Sunset's case, the original musical involved a gigantic licensing deal between RUG and Paramount. I'd be surprised if that deal didn't also give Paramount the right to have a say in a film adaptation of the ALW show.
|
|
7,050 posts
|
Post by Jon on May 7, 2021 0:54:06 GMT
Paramount have nothing to lose at this point, especially when the expiry on copyright on the original is fast approaching. So one way or another Sunset will eventually be made with or without Paramount - so they might as well cash in on it now. The next few years should see a shakeup in Hollywood as copyrights expire and properties enter the public domain - Mickey Mouse enters the public domain in 2024 and major titles like Gone With The Wind will see both the novel and movie enter the public domain in the next 15 years too. Presumably this means we might see big named theatrical adaptations in the next decade or so, which could be exciting. The Wizard of Oz movie enters the public domain in 2034 so if it’s still running, Nessarose might finally be allowed to wear ruby slippers in Wicked. I would point out that while the copyright for major films and books are expiring within the next decade, many of the film studios own the trademarks to characters and elements of films which can be renewed indefinitely. Mickey Mouse may be entering the public domain but Disney has trademarked his name and image so it will be impossible for anyone to able to make their own Mickey Mouse cartoon or use his image for merchandise without being sued, the same applies to other known properties like Batman, Superman and Looney Tunes.
|
|
|
Post by inthenose on May 10, 2021 18:49:46 GMT
Am I alone in adoring the actor musician version from the Watermill and town? First time (and last since) I've connected with the show. I know that must make me a heathen!
|
|
|
Post by danb on May 10, 2021 19:03:07 GMT
Am I alone in adoring the actor musician version from the Watermill and town? First time (and last since) I've connected with the show. I know that must make me a heathen! If I can’t say anything nice...😬 Actually, in a bit more detail...It had always been sumptuous before and for it to be the exact opposite was just a kick in the teeth. It was well performed but underpowered. It may have been significantly better in The Watermill in a really intimate setting, but I just found it weak and small at at The Comedy.
|
|
19,652 posts
|
Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 31, 2022 21:01:38 GMT
Happy New Year…DAAAAHling
Wasnt Alan Campbell handsome?
|
|
607 posts
|
Post by chernjam on Jan 1, 2023 3:56:24 GMT
I'm amazed by the quality of that video - multiple cameras, audio/orchestra mixed so well. So maddening that they didn't just do a professional filming of the stage production rather than that never-going-to-be-made-movie they keep talking about
The Perfect Year - one of ALW's best and most underrated songs
|
|
607 posts
|
Post by chernjam on Jan 1, 2023 4:10:23 GMT
ok now you've sent me down the Youtube rabbit hole...
the first public performance of The Perfect Year captures the simple beauty of this song:
|
|
128 posts
|
Post by magnificentdonkey on May 26, 2024 14:10:18 GMT
|
|
19,652 posts
|
Post by BurlyBeaR on May 26, 2024 14:30:42 GMT
Turgid.
Kerry manages to make that iconic song sound totally mediocre.
|
|
|
Post by Seriously on May 26, 2024 14:33:56 GMT
Kerry sounds like she's channeling her inner SNL "Don't make me sing".
The clue's in the opening line "I don't know why I'm frightened". This sounds a little too cruise ship for me.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 14:45:33 GMT
Turgid. Kerry manages to make that iconic song sound totally mediocre. I agree I never really understood the fascination with Kerry. To me she has always been over-rated and I find her incredibly average.
|
|
|
Post by danb on May 26, 2024 15:44:35 GMT
I was pleasantly surprised by her Reno Sweeney in the AG tour a few years ago. Her Elphaba was always exciting in her first run, but only proficient on her return. Singing a score so that your voice lasts the week is never its most exciting version is it?
|
|
351 posts
|
Post by Scswp on May 26, 2024 15:57:55 GMT
I was pleasantly surprised by her Reno Sweeney in the AG tour a few years ago. Her Elphaba was always exciting in her first run, but only proficient on her return. Singing a score so that your voice lasts the week is never its most exciting version is it? I enjoyed her as Reno Sweeney too - I think that was her best performance overall. Vocally, in her first Wicked run, she was fantastic, though acting-wise, she seemed bored when I saw her. I don’t think she’s over-rated. She can still belt out a song (though not quite like she could), but she often simply ‘sings’ rather than ‘performs the character’. Here, for example, she seems to have no feeling for the words and, to me, it’s all pretty much at one level. I think she needs to get back into a role, as without Brian May, she doesn’t seem to draw the crowds with her concerts like she used to. I have tickets for her upcoming tour, but fear it may not actually go ahead due to really poor ticket sales. I hope I’m wrong though.
|
|