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Post by george123 on Sept 8, 2018 6:42:41 GMT
At Royal Court theatre was not my kind of play and the only good thing about it was Lesley Sharp. It may have been 85 minutes long, but it felt like four hours. Will see what others have to say.
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Post by chameleon on Sept 8, 2018 7:45:49 GMT
What's it about? Why didn't you like it?
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Post by QueerTheatre on Sept 8, 2018 22:09:12 GMT
At Royal Court theatre was not my kind of play and the only good thing about it was Lesley Sharp. It may have been 85 minutes long, but it felt like four hours. Will see what others have to say. I saw this tonight, and have to concur. The production was very slow, which may have been meant to great a dream like atmosphere, but mostly just left me cold. Brilliant performance from Leslie Sharpe, and some great sound design, but mostly just felt like a bunch of blokes trying to tell us how a woman feels when losing a child via the means of standard patterns of abuse. It thought it was far cleverer than it was.
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Post by wannabedirector on Sept 11, 2018 21:48:16 GMT
Interested to see reviews of this tomorrow, I saw it last night and I did find it sort of moving. I thought all the performances were really good and the play had some good ideas, but I dunno if these were executed as well as they could’ve been. On the way out I had a conversation with two really nice women about the production, and the more we spoke the more I realised that I couldn’t pinpoint solely what the play was about. There were loads of themes I could name but nothing concrete about what it was about. I like to condense plays into two characters and one thing, and the more I’ve been thinking about it I can’t really do that successfully. It’s one I’ll still think about, I’m reading the text now (which is laden with very intricate stage directions) and I want to see if I get something different from in when I see it on paper.
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Post by nash16 on Sept 12, 2018 0:09:18 GMT
Caught this tonight. My friend felt more moved than I.
It's "The Wonderful World of Dissocia" all over again, but there is absolutely no joy or comedy in Robert Alan Evans world.
Confusion of location and accents reign, until it's all revealed and tied up just before the end when you discover the issue. (It's semi sign posted throughout, but there is definitely a scene where they spell it out).
It is a frustrating 95 minutes though and I'm not sure hindsight does it any favours.
Some of the images are beautiful. Get ready for some fire and then some more fire.
And the acting is good all round. Sharpe is good at grief and lifts everyone in the fleeting lighter moments. Tom Mothersdale has a crack at multi-roleing and does well, but to what effect?
Ultimately, Neilson did this better, although his focus was different to that of this play's protagonist. It seems odd to see a younger playwright use the same format, but with less surprise and much more frustration.
The accents used are purposefully slipped in and out of, but by gad it was annoying.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 16:01:23 GMT
Hmm ... amazing set and the cast were great but this was a very long 85 minutes
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Post by Stephen on Sept 16, 2018 3:08:32 GMT
I haven't seen this yet but have served the playwright in the bar over the last few days...he's a really lovely guy and I'm interested to see it now!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 8:08:59 GMT
Seating tip - the bank of seats facing you at the far side of the room as you walk in is better than the seats on your right - there's a bit of stuff that happens on a raised bit of set on the wall facing the back seats which you'll have a better view of. Incidentally I assume that when you see the mother up in the kitchen, she's played by the guy who plays the agressive youth in the playground scene, wearing a Lesley Sharp wig
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Post by Steve on Sept 16, 2018 11:09:05 GMT
Saw the matinee yesterday, and liked it. Goes nowhere, as that's what happens when you're lost in "the woods," but has a really foreboding feel to it, and Lesley Sharp is terrific. Some spoilers follow. . . Think of this as a psychological "Lemony Snicket's Series of Unfortunate Event" (in the singular), whereby Count Olaf (here called "The Wolf"), played by a suitably malevolent Tom Mothersdale, mans a series of disguises to torment Lesley Sharp, who is lost in a dark landscape in "The Woods," nurturing a sick boy, Finn Bennett. The play is big on atmosphere, with a soundscape of scary tones, a lot of chiaroscuro light and dark, but it suffers from that disease of modern plays, the smug puzzle, which elusively taunts you to solve what's going on, and is so pleased with itself, that it decides that the solution to the puzzle is everything you need to know about everything, and that's that. As the tormented and hunted woman, Lesley Sharp couldn't be better cast, as no actor does haunted and harried quite like she does. Entranced by the atmospherics, I felt very creeped out, in a good way. The smug-puzzle remained unsolved by me, at the end, with my inner Loyd Grossman nasally taunting me with "Through the Brainhole" clues, asking "What could be happening in a mind like this?" I came up with some dark solutions, some darker solutions, and some nightmarish ones, but the problem with not knowing for sure, is that every moment solving the smug-puzzle is a moment of failed empathy. I can't feel for the character(s), as long as I'm not quite sure what happened. And I'm not buying the text to solve it. If the play tells me I'm not smart enough to fully understand it, I'm willing to accept that, and chastened, move on. 3 stars.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 12:34:36 GMT
Smug-puzzle! My phrase of the day. Love it. They pu
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Post by bingomatic on Sept 18, 2018 12:22:06 GMT
Going to see this next week. Is it the 'standard' upstairs layout ? i.e. one set of tiered benches which we all have to shuffle up on ? Any recommendations of where to avoid sitting ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 13:02:59 GMT
Two banks of seats at a right angle to each other. See above for seating tip!
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Post by bingomatic on Sept 18, 2018 15:29:12 GMT
Thanks so much for that. I had skipped over any posts fearing a spoiler. Will take up your tip!
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Post by Stephen on Sept 24, 2018 23:57:09 GMT
Seeing this on Wednesday. I've been warned of fire, guns and loud noises. I hope I survive!
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Post by andrew on Oct 16, 2018 21:48:20 GMT
I actually quite like this. It definitely didn't fly by but I wasn't sitting there bored. I felt just mystified enough. It's interesting flicking through the reviews now where there are some critics complaining that the mystery of the play is obvious and that steals the dramatic tension, and others that it's too mysterious for too long and it's arduous flitting through these confusing scenes without an idea of what's going on. I was somewhere in a much more pleasant middle. Some of the runs at comedy felt a little bit awkward because in such an intimate space with such a heavy dark atmosphere nobody really wants to laugh, so you just get this bristling noise as people stiffen in response to a line. Lesley is great, and the set, sound, music, lighting is all really excellent. I wasn't choked up as such at the end, but I was definitely feeling... something... and that's better than half the stuff I see at the theatre. Great stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 22:19:40 GMT
but I was definitely feeling... something... and that's better than half the stuff I see at the theatre. Saucepot. I hope the person next to you appreciated it too?
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Post by andrew on Oct 17, 2018 20:14:59 GMT
but I was definitely feeling... something... and that's better than half the stuff I see at the theatre. Saucepot. I hope the person next to you appreciated it too? I know this production got 3-4 star reviews, but mine always get 5.
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Post by crowblack on Oct 20, 2018 12:36:28 GMT
Btw, I didn't see this, but have just seen an image from it - did this show have real fire in it? I've been to a couple recently with fire and I do wish they'd flag it up, as they do with gunshots and cigarettes. It really makes me anxious.
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Post by Stephen on Oct 20, 2018 12:45:56 GMT
Btw, I didn't see this, but have just seen an image from it - did this show have real fire in it? I've been to a couple recently with fire and I do wish they'd flag it up, as they do with gunshots and cigarettes. It really makes me anxious. Yes, it did. The Royal Court doesn't reveal anything on the evening which could spoil the theatregoing experience or give away hints of the plot. I think it's a great system. However, like you, these things make me very anxious and the RC are VERY good at giving you the information if you phone/email/ask on the evening. This gives me peace of mind and doesn't spoil the show for everyone else.
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Post by crowblack on Oct 20, 2018 13:36:38 GMT
This gives me peace of mind and doesn't spoil the show for everyone else. I wish they'd flag up something online - like a link or the 'mild peril' warnings the BBFC provide if you look up a film you are thinking of taking young children to. I also wish they'd do it with audience participation - I had a really horrible experience recently where it was me. Had I known I wouldn't have sat where I did. I've suffered from severe, clinical anxiety for years and have been using theatregoing as part of my CBT routine to try and challenge it. I know a lot of other people with similar issues and I wish theatres and other spaces would provide links as a matter of course as they do for people with more obvious, physical disabilities or as menus and food packages do for people with allergies. Regarding spoilers, it seems to be routine now to warn about gunshots in big, unavoidable letters, which is far more of a spoiler than "there is the use of real fire at some point in the production" might be.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 20:43:48 GMT
Just got out from the final performance and I probably wouldn't usulsy post my comments but I just feel I have to get it out my system. If I had to some up this play with a song I would say Killing Me Softly. I felt like I was being slowly tortured watching this play and I don't really know how feel about it. Some nice design, sound and lighting elements and liked the wolf. It just felt so long and gruling and I wish I had stayed at home and watched strictly.
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Post by Stephen on Oct 21, 2018 2:25:14 GMT
This gives me peace of mind and doesn't spoil the show for everyone else. I wish they'd flag up something online - like a link or the 'mild peril' warnings the BBFC provide if you look up a film you are thinking of taking young children to. I also wish they'd do it with audience participation - I had a really horrible experience recently where it was me. Had I known I wouldn't have sat where I did. I've suffered from severe, clinical anxiety for years and have been using theatregoing as part of my CBT routine to try and challenge it. I know a lot of other people with similar issues and I wish theatres and other spaces would provide links as a matter of course as they do for people with more obvious, physical disabilities or as menus and food packages do for people with allergies. Regarding spoilers, it seems to be routine now to warn about gunshots in big, unavoidable letters, which is far more of a spoiler than "there is the use of real fire at some point in the production" might be. I understand what you mean. The Royal Court's system of trigger warnings, for example, is only effective if people know about the system. I really hope that in the future they can help with these issues for you. As I said, it's all things that I struggle with too!
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Post by andrew on Oct 21, 2018 8:49:42 GMT
I think a comprehensive warning system that people can easily access and is clearly advertised is the way to go. I (fortunately) don’t feel I need to be warned about anything before I go in, and find warnings about things that’ll happen, or difficult themes to spoil my enjoyment of the mystery of seeing a new play. I hate the big signs up as everyone walks in essentially spelling out that someone will be shot, or there will be blood or something, because then when things take a dramatic turn I’m not as surprised, I knew this was going to happen at some stage.
It costs very very little though to have something up saying “this play contains some elements which viewers may find upsetting and may wish to be warned about. Please ask the ushers/speak to the box office/see this handy leaflet below for details”. I walk past it, others pick it up and are forewarned.
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