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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 8:21:19 GMT
Well. It all starts with the director coming out on stage to announce that it's a very technical show and they might have to stop it every now and again. Well it did last night anyway. A frisson of excitement spread through the theatre as to how technical it was going to be. I expected some pyrotechnics, several huge scene changes and some visual effects. I was to be disappointed. What we got was a few doors left over from a Ray Cooney farce and some lovely 'Acorn Antiques' style scene changes with the cast making every attempt to get a few old tables through the doors without getting caught in a lamp socket. Katie Mitchell is a lot smilier than I thought she'd be. Now. Be warned. You need to concentrate a LOT for this play. There's three (linked) stories going on at the same time and the cast are often talking at the same time (sometimes even saying the same things at the same time which is rather clever). If you saw 'iHo' at the Hampstead Theatre recently with the scene where everyone was talking over each other. It's like that. Only longer. Two hours longer. There are some great performances from the three leading ladies (Hattie Morahan, Kate O'Flynn, Adelle Leonce - who btw all look a helluva lot happier in their cast photos on the website than they do in the show) and the supporting cast work very hard playing different parts, dressing the leading ladies and getting furniture through doors (will they get triple wages do you think?). One wouldn't be surprised if they had to do the washing up afterwards as well. I liked the Morahan (Carol) and O'Flynn (Anna) storylines but didn't care much for Leonce's (Bonnie) story which I found the least interesting so my eyes didn't tend to stray to her end of the stage much. O'Flynn gets the 'showier' part but Morahan is quite devastating. It's also rather funny in places and not the constant gloom that perhaps the title promises. The three lead characters don't interact with each other but {Spoiler - click to view} . . there is a bit towards the very end when they kind of do, a bit like ghosts, and where Anna reaches out for Bonnie's hand (Anna is Bonnie's mother) as she passes which was probably my favourite bit of the entire play . . There's a delightful bit where Leonce calls out for a line and the others all get a bit confused and the scene gets a but jittery which breaks things up a bit but I fear the director will sort that out. Sadly. Oh and for the Katie Mitchell fans, there's a fair bit of slow motion acting which only makes the play seem longer. Which is nice. 2 hours. Feels a bit more towards the end. No interval. Numb backside. BUT there is a rabbit. A real one. All cute and fluffy and very well behaved. It steals the show.
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Post by schuttep on Jun 6, 2017 10:17:15 GMT
I'm getting a little tired of authors who have multiple people talking at once, and at length, (I'm looking at you The Treatment).
And Directors who have actors sitting on the floor (or at tables on the floor in Japanese restaurants) (ditto above, as well as "a profoundly affectionate...).
Don't Directors have any respect for audiences' sight lines any more? Especially if I've paid top price to sit near the front.
I want to see and hear the sodding play!
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jun 6, 2017 21:37:13 GMT
I honestly thought this was one of the most emotionally affecting plays I've seen in a very long time, but I predict it will be a bit of a marmite one.
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Post by bobbybaby on Jun 6, 2017 23:05:26 GMT
I saw this on Monday night too. It was the second ever performance and when Katie Mitchell stood up to announce it was very technical and we may have to stop - like Ryan (possibly) I thought it may have been like the Chelsea version of Dave Clarks Time with floating heads and goddesses/priests moving in and out on platforms and holograms. From what I could see the technicality was in timing the actors and props. None of the characters irritated me but I felt (and remember this is a preview) they just weren't up to speed with the crossover and speaking together. Yes there were laugh out loud moments from all three characters and it was surprisingly funny to me. Personally Carol's experience made me laugh most ( I am of a certain age before mobiles and the internet and when all you had to say was 'that's very Margot and Gerry' to get a laugh. ) but Anna resonated with me most as (being a healthcare professional) that was the time of my entry into the profession. Bonnie's story became so relevant right towards the end that I found the denouement (hope that's spelled correctly as I've had some Sauv Blanc) incredibly touching (in fact I was reminded of Clybourne Park and thought this was a far more touching ending ). I think it's slightly preaching to the converted but would encourage anyone who cares about equality and treating mental health on a par with physical health to see. I think seeing this up to speed would be amazing.
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Post by quine on Jun 7, 2017 8:51:17 GMT
I saw this last night and all ran smoothly. This does have more funny moments than I anticipated but also some lines which had me holding my heart. As has been said requires concentration - found myself distracted by lighting choices as I at first thought that it was trying to direct my attention but then I realised the choices are all mine so I feel no-one will have a similar view of this play as we will all be drawn to the lines/actions which resonante more and there is no guarantee this will be in one character. I personally found the slow motion in the final scenes irritating but I'm sure others will disagree.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jun 7, 2017 9:57:48 GMT
I saw this on Monday night too. It was the second ever performance and when Katie Mitchell stood up to announce it was very technical and we may have to stop - like Ryan (possibly) I thought it may have been like the Chelsea version of Dave Clarks Time with floating heads and goddesses/priests moving in and out on platforms and holograms. From what I could see the technicality was in timing the actors and props. None of the characters irritated me but I felt (and remember this is a preview) they just weren't up to speed with the crossover and speaking together. Yes there were laugh out loud moments from all three characters and it was surprisingly funny to me. Personally Carol's experience made me laugh most ( I am of a certain age before mobiles and the internet and when all you had to say was 'that's very Margot and Gerry' to get a laugh. ) but Anna resonated with me most as (being a healthcare professional) that was the time of my entry into the profession. Bonnie's story became so relevant right towards the end that I found the denouement (hope that's spelled correctly as I've had some Sauv Blanc) incredibly touching (in fact I was reminded of Clybourne Park and thought this was a far more touching ending ). I think it's slightly preaching to the converted but would encourage anyone who cares about equality and treating mental health on a par with physical health to see. I think seeing this up to speed would be amazing. You have to wait for Katie Mitchell's adaptation of Zardoz for that.
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Post by quine on Jun 7, 2017 10:28:16 GMT
I saw this last night and all ran smoothly. This does have more funny moments than I anticipated but also some lines which had me holding my heart. As has been said requires concentration - found myself distracted by lighting choices as I at first thought that it was trying to direct my attention but then I realised the choices are all mine so I feel no-one will have a similar view of this play as we will all be drawn to the lines/actions which resona te more and there is no guarantee this will be in one character. I personally found the slow motion in the final scenes irritating but I'm sure others will disagree.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 21:53:06 GMT
Saw this tonight (final preview) and mostly struggled with it. Sporadic nice work in there all round, but ultimately for me it was undone by its own ambition.
As Ryan says above - there are three narratives happening concurrently on the stage, so the dialogue from all three narratives are tumbling across each other in a way that is supposed to be complimentary and show echoes through time. All well and good. But there were so many times when it feels like one - or even both - of the narratives is on an artificial pause while there is a particularly dense exchange or speech in one of the others that it sucked me out of the action and made me think of the writer struggling to make it all work. The Bonnie (Adele Leonce) narrative was notably affected by this, making it feel like it was written to fit in around the other two - and there were large chunks where it felt like the writer had just forgotten about the Bonnie narrative for a minute or two.
Another problem I had is that we are watching three generations of women - with the play supposedly examining the idea of inherited trauma - and yet it didn't feel to me like these three women shared any familial behaviours or characteristics other than adult depression. Maybe I missed things but other than a few shared physical poses and similar bursts of dialogue that echoed through the 3 narratives it seemed like that was it.
The cast are generally very good. I found Hattie Morahan in particular incredibly watchable even when her narrative was not in the ascendant. I also liked the slow-motion bits.
I suspect that the Royal Court audience - and theatre critics - may lap it up on account of it being Royal Court/Katie Mitchell/Alice Birch/strong female narrative. For me it took an interesting subject and an interesting premise and went just the wrong side of pretentious and look-at-me clever.
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Post by dave72 on Jun 9, 2017 21:48:14 GMT
I saw this tonight, and whatever hesitations and disconnections existed in previews have been erased: the whole production seemed seamless to me. And I didn't find it the least confusing: it's only very occasionally that several people are talking at once, and although you have to listen carefully (not a bad thing, right?), the three narratives all came through quite clearly. I was engaged and in suspense throughout, and would very much recommend the play and the production. Katie Mitchell is so precise and focused in her directing that the whole thing packs a powerful emotional punch. Five stars from me.
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Post by MrBunbury on Jun 9, 2017 21:59:16 GMT
I saw this tonight, and whatever hesitations and disconnections existed in previews have been erased: the whole production seemed seamless to me. And I didn't find it the least confusing: it's only very occasionally that several people are talking at once, and although you have to listen carefully (not a bad thing, right?), the three narratives all came through quite clearly. I was engaged and in suspense throughout, and would very much recommend the play and the production. Katie Mitchell is so precise and focused in her directing that the whole thing packs a powerful emotional punch. Five stars from me. I completely agree: I saw it on Wednesday and although it requires attention and concentration (that should not be exceptional), it really delivers. Now I am writing a review for work.
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Post by herculesmulligan on Jun 12, 2017 21:02:32 GMT
I thought this was fantastic. Doesn't require any more attention than any normal play. Quite incredible performances and a brilliant piece.
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Post by argon on Jun 15, 2017 15:44:02 GMT
The constant scene changes to reflect progression of time started to rankle me (like watching a good film being constantly interrupted by adverts) larger time jumps & more development around the time in question maybe would have helped. I liked the concept.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jun 15, 2017 16:54:53 GMT
I wonder what the thinking was around the costume changes.
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Post by nash16 on Jun 15, 2017 22:51:58 GMT
I wonder what the thinking was around the costume changes. "Well, look, we've told them it'll be 2hrs, no interval. We're currently at 1hr 10mins. So...let's put those costume changes back in." "But is there any real need to have them change cost..." "They're going back in!"
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Post by Steve on Jun 20, 2017 12:54:12 GMT
An excellent play superbly directed, I loved this. Some spoilers follow. . . If there is a flaw to this production, which follows three members of a family in three different timelines, it's the one Ryan mentioned. Two characters (Hattie Morahan's Carol and Kate O'Flynn's Anna) are vividly and exceptionally conceived, whereas one (Adelle Leonce's Bonnie) is vague, receded, barely there. This is by design, as the numbness of Bonnie is suggested to be a consequence of the historical actions of Carol and Anna. However, this created a displeasing lack of symmetry, as an audience member, in that I was completely gripped by the action left and centre stage, and found the action stage right dull, by comparison. With that one caveat, this is one of the best productions of the year. The casting is spot on. Hattie Morahan is SO good at curling up into a metaphorical ball of confusion, her wide eyes taking in everything and processing nothing. Kate O'Flynn is SO good at the exact opposite, plunging into lived experience with verve, processing too much too quickly, with so much fury that she seems to shatter. Morahan's inaccessible Carol is endlessly mysterious, while Kate O'Flynn's open book of an Anna is so immediate and relateable that she makes you laugh before you have a chance to cry. Adelle Leonce's Bonnie is frozen, a human calculator adding up the past. The fascination of the play is that such apparently different character types are all swamped by mental illness. Whether mental illness (particularly, a propensity to depression) is passed through generations via genetics, experiences or the epigenetic transference of trauma to fetuses, is a question the play elegantly opens up and wisely never closes down, so he production is like a fevered dream of questions and life experiences, emanating dreamlike from the stage as a river of information and emotions. If ever a production must be seen and felt, rather than talked about, this is it, as the experience of these three related story threads unfolding simultaneously is indescribable. Katie Mitchell's decision to dress and undress the characters onstage works brilliantly as a metaphor for the power of mental illness to take control of minds. These women are controlled by forces out of their control, and that is what Mitchell makes us feel. Despite the fact that I found Adelle Leonce's Bonnie's numbness frustrating though explicable, this show is so sensory and impactful in it's unique theatrical language, I recommend it to the maximum. 5 stars.
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Post by firefingers on Jul 1, 2017 20:08:25 GMT
Bloody loved this. Possibly my favourite thing I've seen this year. Spectacular performances all round (Kate O'Flynn's voice work was so incredibly natural I was convinced that was her normal way of speaking). Got it on a Today Tix rush ticket and at 20 quid was an absolute bargain. Five stars.
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Post by showgirl on Jul 2, 2017 13:39:29 GMT
Was it hard to get the Rush ticket, please, firefingers? As when I looked a few times recently, this wasn't selling that well so there was no hurry to decide when to go, whereas now it's almost sold out so a Rush ticket would be my only affordable hope, but as you can't book them until 10 am on the day, and only for Fri/Sat (in this case), it's a bit risky and I need a back-up plan.
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Post by firefingers on Jul 2, 2017 14:49:43 GMT
Was it hard to get the Rush ticket, please, firefingers? As when I looked a few times recently, this wasn't selling that well so there was no hurry to decide when to go, whereas now it's almost sold out so a Rush ticket would be my only affordable hope, but as you can't book them until 10 am on the day, and only for Fri/Sat (in this case), it's a bit risky and I need a back-up plan. It wasn't too hard, several minutes after they went on sale (had to try and fail for Hamlet first, same as every day). I actually ummed and ahhed about if I really wanted to go, sunny day and all, so would of thought if you were on your phone at 10 you are bound to get a ticket. There are a few things that have similar several minutes window, so if you didn't get Anatomy you check out are Ladies for similar price.
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Post by Latecomer on Jul 2, 2017 15:17:53 GMT
Really enjoyed this (actually that's not the right word....I was immersed in it and experienced it and was intrigued by it all at the same time)! Intelligent theatre and such a clever format. Had to concentrate but easy to follow. My only slight problem was that I was left wanting more of every story.....but that's a small price to pay. This playwright is one to watch -her use of language is fantastic. Great acting all round.
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Post by showgirl on Jul 2, 2017 18:03:21 GMT
Thank you very much, firefingers - that's very helpful. I do have in mind as back-up some of the other shows you mentioned; I suppose the risk would be missing out on them all but at least the others are continuing.
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