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Post by charliec on May 18, 2016 12:47:33 GMT
I am totally into #Sam4Ham idea and dreaming of seeing Sam Mackay as Hamilton - and even more after that Hamilton Medley video from the recent concert! Oooh! Do you still have a link to the video? I haven't seen it! |
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Post by Steffi on May 18, 2016 12:53:07 GMT
I am totally into #Sam4Ham idea and dreaming of seeing Sam Mackay as Hamilton - and even more after that Hamilton Medley video from the recent concert! Oooh! Do you still have a link to the video? I haven't seen it! Full video was on Periscope but is no longer available. This seems to be the only short clip available now (the full medley was 13 minutes long):
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Post by ali973 on May 18, 2016 12:53:31 GMT
You realize he's white, right?
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Post by firefingers on May 18, 2016 13:47:07 GMT
I heard a rumour that casting was going to be even more blind than that, and they were considering gender-blind casting as well. Though these ideas often get thrown about and never come to fruition, like how the Curve's production of Legally Blonde were originally planning to cast Elle Woods with a black actress. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 14:09:01 GMT
Hamilton isn't colour-blind casting though, Hamilton is very specifically actors of colour in all lead and supporting roles apart from King George, with a bit more flexibility for the ensemble.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 18, 2016 14:26:50 GMT
I don't really think a Caucasian Hamilton would work. There's just something about it that wouldn't seem right.
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Post by ali973 on May 18, 2016 18:59:59 GMT
The entire point of the show is for it to be played by people who are mainly polar opposites of these historical figures, and to give people of color (at least in America) a stake in the narrative of the history of that country. A white Hamilton in Hamilton is utter nonsense.
The gender-blind casting was actually a rumor, it's not true.
Most of the casting is actually not blind casting at all and is actually quite engineered. In most probabilities, the next Hamilton will be Latino, Burr will be black and Eliza will be "light skinned".
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 19:58:39 GMT
I could have sworn Lin has said he wouldn't rule out colour blind casting the show
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 20:12:22 GMT
He has said that for school productions etc. I think there is very little chance that they would cast a white Hamilton in a production as big as the West End.
Maybe Sam could join the ensemble and be a Hamilton understudy. I know the Broadway production has white understudies for some of the main characters.
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Post by ali973 on May 19, 2016 2:52:11 GMT
^ Maybe Sam, very talented, employable, good looking, can find another job. Clearly he's over qualified to be an understudy.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 4:14:48 GMT
Well I'm not aware of Sam's previous work except In the Heights so I couldn't say whether he's overqualified or not, but I know how much he wants to play Hamilton and this would probably be the only way. I'm sure a ton of up and coming actors would jump at the chance to be an understudy in a show like Hamilton, even if they've played lead roles in smaller venues before. Off the top of my head, Michael Vinsen was an incredible Peter in Bare (lead role) at the Union and Greenwich Theatre and then went into The Book of Mormon ensemble and understudied Elder Price, now is in Kinky Boots ensemble and understudies Charlie.
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Post by ali973 on May 19, 2016 4:39:57 GMT
But ITH has a much higher profile than Bare at the Union (IMO, at least). Not to mention, isn't Sam moderately successful in TV and such? Wasn't he in Game of Thrones in a minor role at one point? I was reading this article about a writer from Elle auditioning for Hamilton and the struggles minorities and POC go through to be noticed in this field simply because of their skin color, and finally being able to audition for something purposely written for them. Do they even need to compete in areas that are purposely made and written for them? Notice how the casting note specifically said this is made for the non-white characters, and non-white characters like King George will get the opportunity at a later audition. I believe this is the wording after the "controversy" It's an interesting and fun read (though slightly anticlimactic in Part II). www.elle.com/culture/a36295/i-auditioned-for-hamilton-broadway-part-1/ |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 4:58:32 GMT
But ITH has a much higher profile than Bare at the Union (IMO, at least). Not to mention, isn't Sam moderately successful in TV and such? Wasn't he in Game of Thrones in a minor role at one point? It is higher profile but not by that much. It's far from being one of the big shows in London. I saw he was in GOT but I watch the show and can't remember him so I don't think it was anything particularly notable. I guess what I'm saying is Sam might prefer to be an understudy for Hamilton in the West End than play the lead in a venue similar to the King's Cross in a show that isn't as good. I think I would but I guess others would think differently, but there are definitely plenty of talented and attractive actors who have played leads before that are understudies. Even if you look at people like Alice Ripley at the moment. She obviously has had an incredible career of playing leads and yet is now playing an extremely minor role in American Psycho. It happens. |
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Post by spendleb on May 19, 2016 11:07:30 GMT
Oooh! Do you still have a link to the video? I haven't seen it! Full video was on Periscope but is no longer available. This seems to be the only short clip available now (the full medley was 13 minutes long):
The other lad here (Cleve September??) would be fantastic in Hamilton, great voice and he can really sing those lines. |
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Post by Steffi on May 19, 2016 12:40:32 GMT
Cleve is the guy with the ponytail. The guy with the curly hair is Jonny Labey (Sonny in the Southwark Playhouse production)
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 19:15:00 GMT
Full video was on Periscope but is no longer available. This seems to be the only short clip available now (the full medley was 13 minutes long):
The other lad here (Cleve September??) would be fantastic in Hamilton, great voice and he can really sing those lines. No doubt about it, Cleve is perfect for almost anyone in Hamilton. |
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Post by Stasia on May 25, 2016 9:58:04 GMT
The Hamilton Original Broadway Cast Recording has officially been Platinum certified.
#yayHamlet, as they would say
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Post by primitivewallflower on May 25, 2016 17:15:30 GMT
The Hamilton Original Broadway Cast Recording has officially been Platinum certified. #yayHamlet, as they would say Based on this thread in Broadway World from last year, that would put it in the company of about 16 other musicals: www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.php?thread=1083204Although I have to say, in the age of streaming services and a-la-carte track downloads, platinum certification strikes me as an even more impressive feat than in the past. |
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 2, 2016 14:02:37 GMT
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Post by ali973 on Jun 2, 2016 14:46:42 GMT
That's one down, with several others TBC. TBH I am sure the producers know who is staying and who isn't-at this point. This argument of TBD till after the Tony's can't stand anymore, because of these people need to be replaced, replacements would have been found by now and signed. I have a hunch that most of them are staying because I've seen several interviews where they state that they are in negotiation (assuming to stay but with a new contract/raise/benefits).
I'm seeing it in December and I am excited one way or another, regardless of who is in it. If I had to pick, I would love to see Leslie, Daveed and Rene, otherwise I am seriously not fussed about the rest, least of all not Miranda who is obviously a mammoth of talent, but I find his acting a bit lacking (though he compensates with unbelievable energy and enthusiasm), and his voice not that wonderful to listen to (but a great rapper). Plus, I find comfort in him doing it in London at some point if he does give a definitive performance.
On another note, AOL has been doing these Hamilton interviews, and I have to say that the interviewer is amazing and knows her stuff. She did one with Daveed, but this version with Alex Lacamoire the arranger and musical director is the best. I love what he does here, and the little bit of My Shot that he plays is everything.
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jun 2, 2016 15:29:13 GMT
The Hamilton Original Broadway Cast Recording has officially been Platinum certified. #yayHamlet, as they would say Based on this thread in Broadway World from last year, that would put it in the company of about 16 other musicals: www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.php?thread=1083204Although I have to say, in the age of streaming services and a-la-carte track downloads, platinum certification strikes me as an even more impressive feat than in the past. Bear in mind that Youtube and Spotify (free) streaming of songs count as album sales (2 songs= album), and the fact that the cast recordings consist of two cds means they only have to sell 500 thousand rather than a million copies to go platinum Still impressive, just not as much... |
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Post by primitivewallflower on Jun 2, 2016 16:30:12 GMT
Based on this thread in Broadway World from last year, that would put it in the company of about 16 other musicals: www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.php?thread=1083204Although I have to say, in the age of streaming services and a-la-carte track downloads, platinum certification strikes me as an even more impressive feat than in the past. Bear in mind that Youtube and Spotify (free) streaming of songs count as album sales (2 songs= album), and the fact that the cast recordings consist of two cds means they only have to sell 500 thousand rather than a million copies to go platinum Still impressive, just not as much... Important point, but I thought the ratio was 1,500 streams : 1 album? www.riaa.com/riaa-debuts-album-award-streams/ |
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Post by charliec on Jun 2, 2016 16:41:48 GMT
On another note, AOL has been doing these Hamilton interviews, and I have to say that the interviewer is amazing and knows her stuff. She did one with Daveed, but this version with Alex Lacamoire the arranger and musical director is the best. I love what he does here, and the little bit of My Shot that he plays is everything. That's BroadwayGirlNYC on twitter... she's awesome! |
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jun 2, 2016 16:49:55 GMT
Bear in mind that Youtube and Spotify (free) streaming of songs count as album sales (2 songs= album), and the fact that the cast recordings consist of two cds means they only have to sell 500 thousand rather than a million copies to go platinum Still impressive, just not as much... Important point, but I thought the ratio was 1,500 streams : 1 album? www.riaa.com/riaa-debuts-album-award-streams/You're right! I dont know why I was thinking of 2 streams... Now it makes me think what videos count? I mean "My Shot" must have been uploaded to YT dozens of time by fans.. do all those streams count too..? Hmmm The music industry has changed tremendously though over the last few years that's for sure... |
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Post by ali973 on Jun 2, 2016 16:57:00 GMT
That's BroadwayGirlNYC on twitter... she's aw I didn't know that! She has dark hair on her avatar! Thank you for the tip! |
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