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Post by Eartha on Sept 21, 2022 17:27:42 GMT
I'm not sure why CHF is being criticised for playing Girl when the original Girl on Broadway was Cristin Milioti who's American. Considering the West End production cast Ronan Keating as Guy, people can't really be annoyed at this casting. I'm not a fan of Ronan but at least he was the correct nationality
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Post by TallPaul on Sept 21, 2022 17:49:39 GMT
We have this discussion from time to time. Isn't it called acting?
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Sept 21, 2022 17:56:50 GMT
So this person makes an interesting point here about the casting of Girl It's all to do with sales expectations surely. For a one night concert you have to have recognisable faces in the cast. Agreed. If it's a one off concert they want to make as much £££ as possible. Jamie yes, CFH is just average. |
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Post by inthenose on Sept 21, 2022 18:05:47 GMT
We have this discussion from time to time. Isn't it called acting? Doesn’t that remain to be seen? This is billed as a concert, so it’s unclear how much ‘acting’ there will be. What grinds my gears is that they are shoehorning in performers who are in vogue, but aren’t at all appropriate for the parts. Ergo they are trying to ensure ticket sales, and immediately comes across as a cash grab. Is Jamie Muscato going to be performing with a convincing Dublin accent? Is Carrie Hope Fletcher going to be performing with a convincing Czech accent? Their characters are all this show has to tell its simple little story. The second a show needs to fiddle with the book to accommodate star/stunt casting, is the second the show’s vision is comprised. |
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Post by lolalou on Sept 21, 2022 20:56:37 GMT
Doesn’t Girl play violin and piano and Guy guitar?
I’ve seen Muscato play guitar well.
I don’t think CHF plays violin and her piano amounts to chords if her videos are anything to go by.
I don’t think is going to be a faithful retelling. And I wonder if the Heathers fans will buy in their droves. Used to the £25 today’s tix front row on repeat £49 for the back row of a barn like the Palladium is going to come as a shock.
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Post by justfran on Sept 21, 2022 21:22:48 GMT
Considering the West End production cast Ronan Keating as Guy, people can't really be annoyed at this casting. Irish singer/songwriter Ronan Keating cast as an Irish singer/songwriter 😉 I do agree with TallPaul though, it is called acting so any role is an opportunity for someone to show what they can do. |
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Post by longinthetooth on Sept 21, 2022 21:25:01 GMT
When I first went to see Once, I wanted to love it. Instead I hated it. A few months later, believe it or not I went back, to see if it was me. Nope, still hated it.
Needless to say, I'll be giving this a miss.
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Post by andrew on Sept 21, 2022 22:12:51 GMT
They wouldn't have someone else singing on the trailer, would they, so this is, presumably, Jamie and Carrie. This is Steve Kazee and Cristin Milioti. |
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Post by margoc on Sept 22, 2022 1:51:50 GMT
Couldn't agree more!! Its almost like they've not bothered to look for anyone else, yes CHF is good enough but this is clearly a money grab. Over in the comments section of the Facebook WOS post they’ve dubbed Carrie Hope Fletcher the James Corden of the west end. I’m inclined to agree? Any trained triple threat actor/musicians out there. At all? In terms of her continued stunt casting due to her socials. There’s barely any interaction on her Twitter meanwhile over on TikTok Jamie has had over 8 million people watch a few seconds of him being a ‘dreamboat psychotic’ Maybe he’s the big draw here now? vm.tiktok.com/ZMFewKeyL/Millions have reposted their own videos using that song btw saying they ‘would open the door’ to Jamie Muscato Carrie's hardly a triple threat, she can sing thats all |
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Post by kyvai on Sept 22, 2022 5:41:21 GMT
I haven’t actually been to an “in concert” production, as either they haven’t appealed or I’ve not been free on the few nights they are on. So I am coming from a theoretical point of view. But, surely their main plus point of a concert is they are cheaper than a full production, due to no staging/set. However, what I can remember from seeing Once about 10 years ago (I saw Arthur Darvill as Guy, he was good), is that the staging here amounts to a piano, a bar and a couple of chairs. So why any need for a concert version? You’re not saving anything, surely. It must be about as low cost a set as a musical gets, even less than Come From Away. There isn’t even a separate band/orchestra, it was designed as an actor/musician show wasn’t it?!?
I am someone who could afford those insane ticket prices if I felt it was worth it. And I really like “Once”, a few of the songs are favourites of mine to play/sing for pleasure But presenting this being in concert just holds zero draw for me, what’s the point. It does just immediately feel cynical.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 22, 2022 6:03:17 GMT
Over in the comments section of the Facebook WOS post they’ve dubbed Carrie Hope Fletcher the James Corden of the west end. I’m inclined to agree? Any trained triple threat actor/musicians out there. At all? In terms of her continued stunt casting due to her socials. There’s barely any interaction on her Twitter meanwhile over on TikTok Jamie has had over 8 million people watch a few seconds of him being a ‘dreamboat psychotic’ Maybe he’s the big draw here now? vm.tiktok.com/ZMFewKeyL/Millions have reposted their own videos using that song btw saying they ‘would open the door’ to Jamie Muscato Carrie's hardly a triple threat, she can sing thats all She an sing*, she can do YouTube and she can do Instagram. *but not in Heathers |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 22, 2022 6:12:32 GMT
The boots look familiar, maybe Carrie nabbed them before Cinders got boxed up and despatched to America. Broadway Cinders will have to get a new pair 🙂  |
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Post by Eartha on Sept 22, 2022 8:38:37 GMT
We have this discussion from time to time. Isn't it called acting? I absolutely agree with you. I was just being an uppity Paddy!  |
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Post by anthony40 on Sept 22, 2022 11:19:31 GMT
Another concert!
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Post by lolalou on Sept 22, 2022 22:10:33 GMT
Over in the comments section of the Facebook WOS post they’ve dubbed Carrie Hope Fletcher the James Corden of the west end. I’m inclined to agree? Any trained triple threat actor/musicians out there. At all? In terms of her continued stunt casting due to her socials. There’s barely any interaction on her Twitter meanwhile over on TikTok Jamie has had over 8 million people watch a few seconds of him being a ‘dreamboat psychotic’ Maybe he’s the big draw here now? vm.tiktok.com/ZMFewKeyL/Millions have reposted their own videos using that song btw saying they ‘would open the door’ to Jamie Muscato Carrie's hardly a triple threat, she can sing thats all That’s what I meant albeit clumsily. With the amount of triple threats out there and triple threats who can also play multiple instruments which is required for this show WHY do they keep casting her? I think producers are blinded by the follower count. I went to a concert of hers at Cadogan hall a few years back and they were literally giving tickets away. I’m not sure she is the draw she was in times past. Jamie however is currently riding an all time online high. |
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Sept 23, 2022 6:15:05 GMT
Another bloody concert. So fed up. Where are the actual productions??!!!! And another concert version of a very recently produced show. At least use concert stagings to try new productions of rarely seen shows, or older shows that could develop into full revivals, or new stuff. Like the recent Treason production. I see the merit there - try something as a concert, rather than have to go the whole hog with a full production. A test or tryout. I can also see the point in staging something as a one off concert if it had a huge star name attached who would never do a full run. But was anyone asking for Kinky Boots or Once in concert form like this? Really? What’s the point? |
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Post by stagebyte on Sept 23, 2022 9:14:15 GMT
Another bloody concert. So fed up. Where are the actual productions??!!!! And another concert version of a very recently produced show. At least use concert stagings to try new productions of rarely seen shows, or older shows that could develop into full revivals, or new stuff. Like the recent Treason production. I see the merit there - try something as a concert, rather than have to go the whole hog with a full production. A test or tryout. I can also see the point in staging something as a one off concert if it had a huge star name attached who would never do a full run. But was anyone asking for Kinky Boots or Once in concert form like this? Really? What’s the point? I do agree. It’s very boring when there are so many different shows and interesting actor choices that could’ve been made, however tickets are selling well. I’m waiting for them to get overconfident add a matinee then swoop in when ticket prices plummet. The prices are outrageous considering it’s a concert with reduced overheads. |
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Post by alece10 on Sept 23, 2022 10:38:13 GMT
Is it on for a few nights or just Once?
I'll get my coat......
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Post by Jon on Sept 23, 2022 12:25:37 GMT
I'm not sure what the outrage is, it's not these concerts are replacing actual shows.
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Post by A.Ham on Oct 5, 2022 8:54:51 GMT
A 3pm matinee has been added. On sale now.
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Post by alece10 on Oct 5, 2022 9:38:58 GMT
A 3pm matinee has been added. On sale now. So are they going to change the title of the show to "Twice"? Sorry but getting in there before anyone else 😀 |
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Post by Steve on Mar 12, 2023 18:00:39 GMT
Just saw the matinee and loved it. Some spoilers follow. . . Having loved the central duo together in "Heathers," I booked mostly to see them together again, in something different, rather than just to see "Once" lol. From that perspective, it's a show of ironies as not only are they performing it "twice" (ie again tonight), but in "Heathers" they are rolling all over each other on stage and then try to murder each other in unrestrained abandon, but here, in their reunion, for "once" they must exercise almost complete and total restraint in this updated "Brief Encounter." And it is the brief encounter loneliness of this concert production that will linger with me: For one, the Palladium is massive compared to the Phoenix, and the ensemble seated at either side of the stage create a chasm of space between them. Second, the principal lighting approach is almost total darkness, with a few star-like lights above, so when Muscato's Guy takes central stage for his opening number, "Leave," he looks so so lonely. Muscato has such incredible technique and pipes though, that despite his half-Elvis, half lonely cowboy slouch, and despite the morose sadness of his opening line, he builds to an absolute ecstatic finish to the song with so many colours and roaring passion. It was a scene stopper, though uninfused by narrative, it is all Muscato's achievement, rather than the show's. Muscato speaks in a creditable Irish accent, and when Carrie Hope-Fletcher appears, she speaks in a creditable Czech accent. Used to filling a stage with characters consumed by agency, CHF easily assumes the buoyancy of this catalytic character of Girl who inspires the morose Guy back to life. If "Leave" was Muscato's solo highlight, CHF's solo highlight was "If you want me," as she was facing the stage, and she embued the line "if you want me, satisfy me" with a lingering longing and wistful passion. Unfortunately, the director chose to angle her in "The Hill" away from the audience, as she played the piano, so we were denied a facial confirmation to this confession of love, which was frustrating, as the song was exquisitely performed. At the Phoenix Theatre, and I saw it there three times, the stage was so colourful and so busy with actor-musicians, the bar always open, even for the audience during the interval lol, that the sheer liveliness seemed to uplift the bonding and loving element ls of the story. Here, the dark cavernous emptiness of the Palladium, with it's unfriendly curtain descending during the interval (instead of serving drinks lol) served to emphasise the lonely aspects of the story. Muscato, in particular, really leant into this fragile sadness, and no amount of cheeky flirtatious perkiness from Hope Fletcher could quite lift him out of it. Mournfulness and soulfulness were accentuated over the community and collaboration of the Phoenix. A gloriously funny performance by Sean Keany, as Billy the shop owner, all lanky posturing boastfulness and affected threat undercut by physical clumsiness and social awkwardness, relieved some of the sad vibe. But luckily, not all of it, as when, in the starlit sadness of the dark vast lonely stage, Hope Fletcher and Muscato performed the "Falling Slowly Reprise," I had never seen it so splendidly and evocatively mournful, and I was overwhelmed with tears. A terrifically spare and soulful rendering of the musical. 4 and a half stars from me. |
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Post by lolalou on Mar 12, 2023 18:47:33 GMT
. Unfortunately, the director chose to angle her in "The Hill" away from the audience, as she played the piano, so . . . . She wrote on her story that she had only reached Grade 3 piano so it’s not surprising she had ‘help’ at the keyboard. |
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Post by kyvai on Mar 12, 2023 19:27:21 GMT
At the evening show and 20 minutes in they’ve stopped for “technical issues”.
Falling Slowly was lovely though.
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Post by yokollama on Mar 12, 2023 22:05:22 GMT
I seem to have planned out the same day as Steve: Once followed by 2:22 in the evening. Alas, I had to miss both shows and Steve's review has just dug a bigger hole in my heart. I'm glad it translated well in the vastness of the Palladium. |
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