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Post by theatrefan62 on Aug 25, 2023 4:44:42 GMT
It seems odd that any big name would want to be in this considering the car crash it was in Chicago. They must have really worked on it since then.
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Post by shownut on Aug 25, 2023 6:57:45 GMT
It seems odd that any big name would want to be in this considering the car crash it was in Chicago. They must have really worked on it since then. I think we can all rightfully assume that there will be huge differences between this production and Chicago. A new director means a new direction and it has been a year since that production (and likely another 6 months or more until we get a London production). David Furnish mentioned this happening in 2024 in an interview a month or so ago so there is plenty of time to rehaul the show top to bottom. |
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Post by viserys on Aug 25, 2023 7:26:24 GMT
If it's really Hannah Waddingham (and let's face it, she'd be great as Miranda) I'm sure she would choose her role for a comeback on stage very carefully while her career is at an all-time high thanks to Ted Lasso and the ESC.
Elton John has been very hit and miss with his musicals, he's written great stuff like Aida, Billy Elliot and Tammy Faye, but also the complete car crash that was Lestat (although his songs were the least of that show's problems). He's stopped touring now, so he has time to focus on actually working on his musicals now (and it seems to have gone quiet around Tammy Faye?).
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Post by LaLuPone on Aug 25, 2023 7:38:02 GMT
Sally Dexter? Always assumed she left Emmerdale to go back to some proper theatre work.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 25, 2023 7:39:23 GMT
If it's really Hannah Waddingham (and let's face it, she'd be great as Miranda) I'm sure she would choose her role for a comeback on stage very carefully while her career is at an all-time high thanks to Ted Lasso and the ESC. Elton John has been very hit and miss with his musicals, he's written great stuff like Aida, Billy Elliot and Tammy Faye, but also the complete car crash that was Lestat (although his songs were the least of that show's problems). He's stopped touring now, so he has time to focus on actually working on his musicals now (and it seems to have gone quiet around Tammy Faye?). After that hideous outing At Glastonbury we can all be thankful for that. Letās hope he sticks to it! |
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Post by theatreliker on Aug 25, 2023 7:42:10 GMT
So when and where is it going?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 25, 2023 8:50:54 GMT
The whole show is being rewrittenā¦ songs and all. Everything was chucked out after the disaster of Chicago
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Post by shownut on Aug 25, 2023 9:09:16 GMT
If it's really Hannah Waddingham (and let's face it, she'd be great as Miranda) I'm sure she would choose her role for a comeback on stage very carefully while her career is at an all-time high thanks to Ted Lasso and the ESC. Elton John has been very hit and miss with his musicals, he's written great stuff like Aida, Billy Elliot and Tammy Faye, but also the complete car crash that was Lestat (although his songs were the least of that show's problems). He's stopped touring now, so he has time to focus on actually working on his musicals now (and it seems to have gone quiet around Tammy Faye?). Re TAMMY FAYE: According to both David Furnish and Jake Shears in recent interviews, the show is very much alive and headed to its next iteration or as DF put it, "a bigger theatre" in 2024. That said, I have my doubts it will be a London transfer. Theatrical Index now has it newly listed as 'In Development" but for Broadway, not London. |
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Post by shownut on Aug 25, 2023 9:26:20 GMT
The whole show is being rewrittenā¦ songs and all. Everything was chucked out after the disaster of Chicago Well I hope they retain "Seen", Nigel's solo in Act Two that was a brilliant, poignant song.....and retaining Javier Munoz would not be a bad idea either. |
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Post by kathryn on Aug 25, 2023 11:38:01 GMT
If it's really Hannah Waddingham (and let's face it, she'd be great as Miranda) I'm sure she would choose her role for a comeback on stage very carefully while her career is at an all-time high thanks to Ted Lasso and the ESC. Elton John has been very hit and miss with his musicals, he's written great stuff like Aida, Billy Elliot and Tammy Faye, but also the complete car crash that was Lestat (although his songs were the least of that show's problems). He's stopped touring now, so he has time to focus on actually working on his musicals now (and it seems to have gone quiet around Tammy Faye?). After that hideous outing At Glastonbury we can all be thankful for that. Letās hope he sticks to it!Ā I think youāre in the minority about Glastonbury! I saw rave reviews everywhere else! |
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Post by danb on Aug 25, 2023 11:49:56 GMT
After that hideous outing At Glastonbury we can all be thankful for that. Letās hope he sticks to it!Ā I think youāre in the minority about Glastonbury! I saw rave reviews everywhere else! Iām with Burly. It was painful at times and deathly dull at others. I saw him about fifteen years ago and it was possibly my most disappointing concert ever. Reading about his āRed Pianoā shows in Vegas with improved visuals, inflatables etc made me think heād upped his game in terms of showmanship, but trading on a back catalogue that he could barely sing was just not for me. Yes there was a massive amount of nostalgia and yes they are magnificent compositions, but as a performance I did not enjoy it. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 25, 2023 12:35:38 GMT
I think in order to cover up the fact that he canāt really sing the songs any more he just exaggerated the vocal mannerisms we all associate with Elton and ended up sounding like a very poor tribute act.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 25, 2023 12:55:15 GMT
The whole show is being rewrittenā¦ songs and all. Everything was chucked out after the disaster of Chicago Well I hope they retain "Seen", Nigel's solo in Act Two that was a brilliant, poignant song.....and retaining Javier Munoz would not be a bad idea either. As I said Everything and everyone has been chucked out (except Elton J) |
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Post by shownut on Aug 25, 2023 13:12:50 GMT
Well I hope they retain "Seen", Nigel's solo in Act Two that was a brilliant, poignant song.....and retaining Javier Munoz would not be a bad idea either. As I said Everything and everyone has been chucked out (except Elton J) That's too bad. That song was a keeper....but here's hoping there was a shuffle in the creative team besides the director. The costume and set design was pretty atrocious as well. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 25, 2023 15:28:36 GMT
Everyoneā¦ EVERYONEā¦. Has been booted out except Elton John.
This is an entirely new UK based team with Jerry M directing.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Aug 25, 2023 15:39:19 GMT
Everyoneā¦ EVERYONEā¦. Has been booted out except Elton John. This is an entirely new UK based team with Jerry M directing. Shame as he was also one of the problems lol I hope he's actually worked on it again, but I somehow have doubts lol |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 25, 2023 15:40:13 GMT
Elton? Heās re-writing the score!
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Post by toomasj on Aug 25, 2023 15:45:41 GMT
Must be an awkward conversation for the creatives and producers to have with Sir Elton John though. āEr, the thing is your previous work wasnātā¦ I mean, well it was great darling butā¦ ummā¦ā.
It was a part of what went wrong at Spider-Man, nobody called out U2 for their music being rank and desperately needing rewrites. Glenn Berger talks about this in his brilliant book.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 25, 2023 15:48:00 GMT
Must be an awkward conversation for the creatives and producers to have with Sir Elton John though. āEr, the thing is your previous work wasnātā¦ I mean, well it was great darling butā¦ ummā¦ā. It was a part of what went wrong at Spider-Man, nobody called out U2 for their music being rank and desperately needing rewrites. Glenn Berger talks about this in his brilliant book. I think as well that U2 werenāt at all interested in rewriting their music so thatās a problem |
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Post by intoanewlife on Aug 25, 2023 16:17:10 GMT
I think in order to cover up the fact that he canāt really sing the songs any more he just exaggerated the vocal mannerisms we all associate with Elton and ended up sounding like a very poor tribute act. YAASSSSS we finally agree on something  I paid $400 to see him Vegas a few years back and his voice was so terrible I would've left if I didn't waste so much money on it. He was equally as terrible at Glastonbury, but at least he could move there, he could barely walk in Vegas. |
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Post by theatrefan62 on Aug 25, 2023 16:49:08 GMT
Elton? Heās re-writing the score! Blimey. Pleasantly surprised by that |
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Post by Jon on Aug 25, 2023 17:36:20 GMT
The whole show is being rewrittenā¦ songs and all. Everything was chucked out after the disaster of Chicago The only time I've seen a show completely redeveloped was Finding Neverland which replaced the entire creative team after the Curve production. |
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Post by shownut on Aug 25, 2023 17:59:12 GMT
Eltonās AIDA also cleaned house after its Atlanta tryout although he didnāt rewrite the entire score. That said, there were a ton of musical changes and it was vastly reorchestrated.
Letās hope DWP has similar luck in its revision.
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Aug 25, 2023 23:00:08 GMT
Must be an awkward conversation for the creatives and producers to have with Sir Elton John though. āEr, the thing is your previous work wasnātā¦ I mean, well it was great darling butā¦ ummā¦ā. It was a part of what went wrong at Spider-Man, nobody called out U2 for their music being rank and desperately needing rewrites. Glenn Berger talks about this in his brilliant book. I think as well that U2 werenāt at all interested in rewriting their music so thatās a problem May make it easier here given Elton John/ David Furnish are also two of the producers |
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Post by stuart on Aug 26, 2023 0:10:34 GMT
Thereās a TikTok vlogger (who is usually quite accurate when it comes to Broadway tea) who is saying this is booked into Regentās Park Open Air Theatre next summer? Iād be surprised to see it there but as I said, heās usually quite accurate when it comes to Broadway detailsā¦
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