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Post by Seriously on Apr 1, 2022 12:22:14 GMT
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Post by Deal J on Apr 1, 2022 13:20:53 GMT
This board is becoming more toxic by the day.
Imagine being cast in a production, then seeing this amount of disapproval and bile before you even begin. I pity anyone who has to perform under those conditions.
On top of that, some are now voicing concern that this might encourage members of the public with a (perceived) lower social standing to come to the theatre. Elitism and punching down in one fail swoop.
Whatever happened to 'class'?
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Post by talkingheads on Apr 1, 2022 17:01:27 GMT
This board is becoming more toxic by the day. Imagine being cast in a production, then seeing this amount of disapproval and bile before you even begin. I pity anyone who has to perform under those conditions. On top of that, some are now voicing concern that this might encourage members of the public with a (perceived) lower social standing to come to the theatre. Elitism and punching down in one fail swoop. Whatever happened to 'class'? I don't tend to afford class to a woman who, thus far, has not exhibited any herself whatsoever. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 1, 2022 17:18:55 GMT
This board is becoming more toxic by the day. Imagine being cast in a production, then seeing this amount of disapproval and bile before you even begin. I pity anyone who has to perform under those conditions. On top of that, some are now voicing concern that this might encourage members of the public with a (perceived) lower social standing to come to the theatre. Elitism and punching down in one fail swoop. Whatever happened to 'class'? “This board” is not some sort of disembodied entity. It’s everybody who contributes to TheatreBoard including you Deal J . I haven’t seen anything that breaks our rules about encroachment on the private persona or private lives of performers but if you have seen that please report the post so we can deal with it. A celebrity’s public activity and persona is up for discussion because they have made it public. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2022 18:50:10 GMT
Class is a bit like status you just have it not check it.
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Post by sph on Apr 1, 2022 22:00:34 GMT
The casting is public knowledge and those who participate on this board are generally regular theatregoers who wish to discuss it. I doubt she's checking it daily to see what we all think. But if we can't share our thoughts here with likeminded people, where can we?
And also, I don't think people have been overly cruel. But a lot of questions have been raised about putting inexperienced "reality stars" into legitimate shows. I don't think it's cruel to discuss whether or not this has an overall adverse effect on an important art form and industry.
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Post by ladidah on Apr 4, 2022 11:53:45 GMT
I feel sorry for performers who have trained for years to get that chance.
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Post by Deal J on Apr 4, 2022 12:22:03 GMT
This board is becoming more toxic by the day. Imagine being cast in a production, then seeing this amount of disapproval and bile before you even begin. I pity anyone who has to perform under those conditions. On top of that, some are now voicing concern that this might encourage members of the public with a (perceived) lower social standing to come to the theatre. Elitism and punching down in one fail swoop. Whatever happened to 'class'? “This board” is not some sort of disembodied entity. It’s everybody who contributes to TheatreBoard including you Deal J . I haven’t seen anything that breaks our rules about encroachment on the private persona or private lives of performers but if you have seen that please report the post so we can deal with it. A celebrity’s public activity and persona is up for discussion because they have made it public. I didn't imply there had been any rule breaking, which is why I haven't reported any posts. I felt it was particularly unpleasant that the discussion had turned to how this might encourage "chavs" to come to the theatre. I personally think that's a horrible word that demonises the working classes and promotes elitism. For what it's worth, I agree that it's not a good casting decision, I'm not defending it - just adding my opinion to the discussion, like we are all entitled to do on this board. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 4, 2022 13:36:10 GMT
There’s a difference between “working class” and “chav”. I’m definitely one, but most definitely NOT the other!
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Post by Deal J on Apr 4, 2022 13:46:59 GMT
They may be different, but the implication is there. Being an informal word I don't think there's an "official" definition, but for example the Cambridge Dictionary describes it as follows: It's also argued that the word is an abbreviation of "council house and violence".Edited to strike out my last sentence: I've just read that the abbreviation "council house and violence" (along with similar ones such as "council-housed and violent" and "Cheltenham Average") are more recently considered to retrofitted "backronyms" and not the proper etymology. |
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Post by danb on Apr 4, 2022 14:05:25 GMT
Either way it is a recognised description of a ‘type’. Whether it is meant to cause great offence or just insinuate said archetype it is just a word. The problem lies in the intent with which it is used or taken. In it’s weakest form it is just used to describe someone you consider to be a bit common and does not know how to behave in certain situations. If Gemma Collins didn’t love being the ‘Chav’ queen she wouldn’t play up to it so readily nor behave in the way that she does. Youths wouldn’t wear ‘chavvy’ clothes if they didn’t want to fit into that caste.
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Post by vickyg on Apr 4, 2022 14:36:08 GMT
It's completely legitimate for people who take an interest in theatre to express concerns about the casting of someone with no professional training or relevant experience and a reputation for unprofessional behaviour in a role where there would usually be a skilled professional.
Deciding not to spend good money on this kind of experiment and trying to understand the motivation of those running the production is not cruel. Neither is trying to understand how this will impact ticket sales and predict the thoughts of the casual theatregoer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 19:50:12 GMT
Chavs were more associated with the Burberry back in the 2000's that word isn't used so widely now unless my demographic has just got older. I fully agree there is a difference between that and working class
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Post by Seriously on Apr 10, 2022 20:10:40 GMT
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Post by Jane Parfitt on Apr 10, 2022 21:23:40 GMT
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Post by keekio2 on Apr 11, 2022 2:04:52 GMT
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Post by A.Ham on Apr 11, 2022 16:47:50 GMT
Oh Lord… how do I stop my ears from bleeding?! |
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Post by christya on Apr 11, 2022 19:20:29 GMT
Looks like whatever that was, it's been taken down already!
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Post by Figaro on Apr 11, 2022 19:35:37 GMT
It was a Story, so only up for 24 hours.
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Post by Jane Parfitt on Apr 11, 2022 21:00:00 GMT
It was GC having a crack at Hey Big Spender, not very successfully.. Looks like whatever that was, it's been taken down already! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2022 13:01:24 GMT
Moma Morton is ironically one of the few roles which can be played by an actress of any ethnicity and virtually any age or size but not any ability it appears.
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Post by richey on Apr 14, 2022 11:18:05 GMT
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 14, 2022 12:31:19 GMT
Could she be any more non committal? 🙄 There was a clip on the IG of the GC singing Hey Big Spender at her own live show and it was bloody awful. |
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Post by bimse on Apr 14, 2022 16:13:32 GMT
Could she be any more non committal? 🙄 There was a clip on the IG of the GC singing Hey Big Spender at her own live show and it was bloody awful. Worse than Julie Goodyear’s leather clad rendition on tv of that same song? Many years ago admittedly, but I’ll never be able to unsee it. It was excruciating. |
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Post by marob on Apr 14, 2022 22:16:20 GMT
Could she be any more non committal? 🙄 There was a clip on the IG of the GC singing Hey Big Spender at her own live show and it was bloody awful. Worse than Julie Goodyear’s leather clad rendition on tv of that same song? Many years ago admittedly, but I’ll never be able to unsee it. It was excruciating. Tried to find that out of morbid curiosity, but could only find this. Sign her up! She wasn’t in very good health years ago when she did Celeb Big Brother, but she’d probably still show up more than GC. |
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