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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2022 11:52:42 GMT
As Jojo said you pay for the show even if it is a one person show "Shirley Valentine/Telly Me on A Sunday" etc. With a "name" like Eddie only doing a limited run people have to get in early and with the costs of rehearsal, srts, design, staging etc a show like Cabaret would take a time to break even and cover its costs. Maybe this hasn't happened during Eddie's run but Eddie helped get the show going and the investment in him would in theory pay off as show turns a profit as the run progresses with the second cast.
We don't know what the cast are paid but it's fair to assume Fra and Amy would be on less than Jessie and Eddie per week so this improves show's profit margin.
The maths formula for any show is pretty :- simple start up costs + running costs need to be less than revenue earned for a show to turn a profit. Once it does then producers have a free hit. Then it becomes running costs vs revene and when these start getting close or going into red the show usually announces a closing date. Shows can do long closing dates get a "name" back to keep shows going longer of course.
There could be shows which turn small margins but if they still make a profit then it makes sense to keep them running although theatre owners may want to bring a new potentially bigger show in.
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Post by dchesnutny on Mar 22, 2022 13:06:48 GMT
I was at first performance…. All I have to say is actress playing Sally Bowles has a nice voice at least ….And I can’t compare to previous cast , didn’t get a chance . I have seeing the last NYC revival Considering it’s first performance, it can only improve Oh dear, a Sally with a nice voice? Not wanted these days apparently! Oh wow. This doesn't sound like a great review. Care to share a bit more? Would love to hear your overall thoughts. (Also a huge fan of the recent revival, but I did enjoy this production, albeit without Jessie Buckley) |
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Post by apubleed on Mar 22, 2022 14:15:52 GMT
I was at first performance…. All I have to say is actress playing Sally Bowles has a nice voice at least ….And I can’t compare to previous cast , didn’t get a chance . I have seeing the last NYC revival Considering it’s first performance, it can only improve Oh dear, a Sally with a nice voice? Not wanted these days apparently! I assume you have listened to the OBC and OLC recordings? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2022 15:33:19 GMT
It's like a select club - People who walked on the moon, saw Jessie in Cabaret, can afford petrol etc.
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Post by fiyero on Mar 22, 2022 15:50:58 GMT
It's like a select club - People who walked on the moon, saw Jessie in Cabaret, can afford petrol etc. I haven’t walked on the moon (though share my name with the orbiter pilot of Apollo 11) and ride a bicycle but did see Jessie twice so it evens out I guess |
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Post by shadypines on Mar 22, 2022 17:18:14 GMT
I saw this last night.
As most would expect it is a different interpretation of the roles from the previous cast.
I felt like Fra and Amy's voices were beautiful and more traditionally WE.
Fra seems a little darker/more crazed than Eddie.
Amy was softer and sung it prettier.
Stand out performance for Omar.
It was a solid first performance and the ensemble (including some covers) were outstanding as they previously were.
I'd certainly recommend booking again if you've already seen it, and reassure anyone that hasn't it's still an amazing show.
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Post by shambles on Mar 22, 2022 17:52:55 GMT
I saw this last night. As most would expect it is a different interpretation of the roles from the previous cast. I felt like Fra and Amy's voices were beautiful and more traditionally WE. Fra seems a little darker/more crazed than Eddie. Amy was softer and sung it prettier. Stand out performance for Omar. It was a solid first performance and the ensemble (including some covers) were outstanding as they previously were. I'd certainly recommend booking again if you've already seen it, and reassure anyone that hasn't it's still an amazing show. What about the title song treatment? Same vein still? |
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Post by ppp on Mar 22, 2022 19:16:04 GMT
Oh dear, a Sally with a nice voice? Not wanted these days apparently! Oh wow. This doesn't sound like a great review. Care to share a bit more? Would love to hear your overall thoughts. (Also a huge fan of the recent revival, but I did enjoy this production, albeit without Jessie Buckley) I was trying to be polite; since was first preview by complimenting her singing . I found her Sally Bowles bland and forgettable. You forget that she is the lead except for the final song were she let loose. Fra Fre was fine and I’m sure will improve as he gets more performances in. Would I pay big prices for them no |
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Post by shadypines on Mar 22, 2022 19:16:33 GMT
I saw this last night. As most would expect it is a different interpretation of the roles from the previous cast. I felt like Fra and Amy's voices were beautiful and more traditionally WE. Fra seems a little darker/more crazed than Eddie. Amy was softer and sung it prettier. Stand out performance for Omar. It was a solid first performance and the ensemble (including some covers) were outstanding as they previously were. I'd certainly recommend booking again if you've already seen it, and reassure anyone that hasn't it's still an amazing show. What about the title song treatment? Same vein still? It's been slightly re-blocked, and it's less aggressive/manic but equally passionate and emotive. |
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 24, 2022 0:53:36 GMT
I went back to the Kit Kat Club tonight to check the new cast, but I think I was more surprised by the differences in the staff and the audience than in the ones in the show. I think it has lost the extra edge of being an "event". The ushers give away the sticker to cover the phone's camera instead of putting it on by themselves, and the result is that everybody put the sticker on their chest: keeping the inside of the theatre secret is clearly no longer a priority. Also, no more free water/schnapps/beer upon arrival.
While people scoffed when I wondered if they'd cover Fra Fee's tattoos, this is exactly what happens. He has new costumes for Willkommen and "Two Ladies" that cover his arms entirely: in the opening number it's just the extra jacket that you can see in the pictures, while in "Two Ladies" it's a horrendous beige drop seat onesie. I think Two Ladies has also been slightly re-choreographed but it didn't quite work: it's not as sexy, people just seem to wonder and group up in different parts of the stage, and the song ends with the audience hardly realizing it's over.
Fra Fee delivers a very good performance. He sings it beautifully and I particularly like his rich lower register. His "Tomorrow Belongs to Me" and "I Don't Care Much" were two highlights. He's a very different type from Eddie Redmayne: he's half a foot shorter, a little bulkier/musclier and looks much younger. When Eddie Redmayne showed up with the blond wig and the uniform he looked like a washed-up accountant, while Fee could be a member of the Hitler Youth. He plays the part like a wicked Peter Pan, with a knowing smirk and scarier depth as the show goes on. He doesn't quite cut the same figure as Eddie in the skeleton costume, but on the whole I really enjoyed his performance and he will only get better with time. Some of the jokes in Wilkommen didn't quite land, but I think he'll get there.
Amy Lennox sings prettily and in a clearer tone than Buckley, but the character is not quite there yet, especially in the book scenes. I don't say this to be mean, but seeing her tonight made me appreciate Buckley even more. Sally can be quite unlikeable and the episodic nature of the book requires a lot from the actor to make the character work, and JB was truly fantastic in it. Her delivery of lines like "But the truth is, Cliff: I've always rather hated Paris" or "You know what I'd love ? A spot of gin" is seared in my memory. Having said that, I never loved the title song: I thought it was overdone, over-directed and over-choreographed. Tonight Amy Lennox did better: she too starts as catatonic but never fully descends in the state of hysteria performed by Buckley, and even the movements are not as exaggerated. Because of the staging in the round she obviously still needs to turn around and around every few seconds - which is annoying - but she really sold the song. She nailed the last ten minutes of the show, her "Cabaret" and the final confrontation with Cliff were good and I hope she can bring the rest of the performance up to that level.
Omar Baroud is a good and charming Cliff – I know I'm in the minority here, but I really liked Omari Douglass and I missed his hopelessness.
Vivien Parry is not as warm as Liza Sadovy, but she has a dry humour and sings spectacularly. I really liked her Fräulein Schneider and I'm curious about her chemistry with Elliot Levey. He was out tonight and was replaced by Josh Andrews: he's clearly too young for the role and there is no way of going around that, but I still really liked his performance and he worked well with Parry's handsome Miss Schneider. Anna-Jane Casey is so good as Kost, it's a pity she didn't get an Olivier nod. I always wondered how Peg Murray managed to win a Tony for this role, and Anna-Jane really shows you all the possibilities of the character.
The audience clapped politely but it was never as enthusiastic as it was when I saw the show with the original leads. Cabaret was the only song that received thunderous applause and even at the curtain call the audience was very warm but there was no standing ovation. Tbh, I think this has more to do with the way the audience "performs" while watching famous actors on stage. The very beloved Eddie Redmayne was getting laughter and applause for everything he did, while the current cast receives the level of enthusiasm that you would usually see in any other stars-less West End show. Fra Fee in particular is delivering a beautiful musical theatre performance and his main fault is not being Eddie Redmayne. I noticed that the gorilla in "If You Could See Her" was spunkier and funnier than ever before – maybe its contract said that it wasn't allowed to steal the spotlight from Mr. Redmayne?
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Post by alece10 on Mar 24, 2022 8:30:54 GMT
Short interview with Amy and Fra on the BBC London news just now about Cabaret and some footage from inside the theatre. Looks like this was a short version of a longer item so maybe they will show more later or tonight.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 24, 2022 8:39:18 GMT
Stickers are probably being handed out because of quite justified pushback from customers on FOH trying to put something sticky on their expensive mobile phones. Quite right too. It was a cheek, presumptuous and a bit desperate. If people are paying £250 to sit in a themed theatre - which I think we’ve all now realised is what’s happening here - then I think it’s reasonable that they should be allowed to take some photos of it.
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Post by Dr Tom on Mar 24, 2022 9:43:16 GMT
They handed over the stickers rather than placed them on the phones themselves a few weeks ago. It’s only a symbolic event. They don’t stay attached anyway (not deliberately, but the sticker has come off with the phone in my pocket both times).
Thanks for the reviews of the new cast. I’m looking forward to seeing them next week.
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Post by fiyerorocher on Mar 24, 2022 9:56:51 GMT
I had my sticker handed to me when I went to see it in previews. Probably depends on the FoH member.
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Post by alece10 on Mar 24, 2022 10:23:23 GMT
I went to 2nd preview and they physically put the stickers over our phone lenses. I think they were stricter until press night to "keep the secret". And it seemed to have worked.
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Post by shadypines on Mar 24, 2022 15:11:05 GMT
A pair of £30 tickets seem to have come back for tomorrow night.
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Post by shadypines on Mar 24, 2022 16:39:10 GMT
And loads of £30 £50 £70 and £100 tickets for 7 Apr
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2022 18:44:33 GMT
Not sure if someone has posted it here (think it may have been on a Broadway chat board...) but someone said they were doing an audio recording last week at some stage - do we think a live cast recording is coming?
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Post by shambles on Mar 24, 2022 19:44:41 GMT
Well, I went looking, and there does seem to one coming, according to this guy. There are also posts by people asking after one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2022 20:04:10 GMT
Interesting! Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2022 22:34:57 GMT
I didnt know Rhydian was still around. Hope he still doesnt dye his hair white.. its like Limahl still sporting that same style from the 80s.not good.
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Post by danb on Mar 25, 2022 7:10:28 GMT
I hope he had to ‘make do’ with Eddie & Emily! 😂
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 25, 2022 7:43:31 GMT
I had a look at “the ever generous alpha club” referred to in that tweet. Looks like you pay them a membership fee - no prices mentioned obvs - and you get invited to lots of stuff where famous and “important” people are needed for the PR. Whether Rhydian Roberts can be considered either famous or important is questionable but don’t worry, if you’re an average Jo your employer can join and you can get free stuff that way so maybe that’s how he blagged it.
So if Eddie And JB were attracting d-listers like Rhydian, who can we expect to see sitting at the table seats for Fra and Annie Amy?
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Post by shady23 on Mar 25, 2022 8:03:03 GMT
Rhydian works with artists now.
He seems to be doing very well. He is the agent for Lee Mead, Samantha Barks and Ramin.
He also has a label releasing albums. He's doing the new Kerry Ellis one along others.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 25, 2022 8:06:30 GMT
I take it all back. Well done Rhydian! 🙌🏻
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