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Post by sph on Mar 2, 2022 2:30:44 GMT
I'm kinda surprised this is aiming for a long run anyway. I actually just expected it to be a temporary "prestige" production for a limited engagement.
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Post by mattnyc on Mar 2, 2022 4:01:00 GMT
I'm kinda surprised this is aiming for a long run anyway. I actually just expected it to be a temporary "prestige" production for a limited engagement. Considering how they said they’ll have to run for years (to sold out houses) to recoup their investment, I’m shocked this is how they’re going about it. |
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Post by shadypines on Mar 2, 2022 6:05:14 GMT
Seats are available from £30. If you cant justify £30 for a theatre ticket, maybe save the money for something important. My personal preference is to always try to sit as near to the stage as possible. I just don’t enjoy things the same from afar, so I could pay £30 to sit in the back row of the Upper Circle but I know I would hate it. I totally agree... My personal preference is to always try to fly first class. I just don’t enjoy things the same from economy, so I could pay £30 to sit in the back of the plane but I know I would hate it. 🙄 |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 2, 2022 6:13:36 GMT
I’m sure lots of producers are watching very carefully to see if people keep buying at £250. Once this has been normalised by shows like Cabaret and Moulin Rouge they will be doing it for all new openings. Welcome to the start of Broadway pricing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 6:19:10 GMT
My personal preference is to always try to sit as near to the stage as possible. I just don’t enjoy things the same from afar, so I could pay £30 to sit in the back row of the Upper Circle but I know I would hate it. I totally agree... My personal preference is to always try to fly first class. I just don’t enjoy things the same from economy, so I could pay £30 to sit in the back of the plane but I know I would hate it. 🙄 Not sure I understand your comparison. The whole point of flying is the end result - to get you to your destination. The experience is secondary. So yeah, if your goal is just to tick a box and say you've seen Caberet, then I agree, sit where you like. But I assume for Marob (and myself) the priority here is to go and enjoy the show from a seat that gives you the best experience. |
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Post by shadypines on Mar 2, 2022 7:10:21 GMT
I’m sure lots of producers are watching very carefully to see if people keep buying at £250. Once this has been normalised by shows like Cabaret and Moulin Rouge they will be doing it for all new openings. Welcome to the start of Broadway pricing. £250 has been the top price in the West End for over 5 years. Elf at Dominion had £250 tickets, as did Hamilton, Mormon, as well as a string of hit plays. I think the WE is still a way short of Broadway though. |
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Post by shadypines on Mar 2, 2022 7:22:16 GMT
I totally agree... My personal preference is to always try to fly first class. I just don’t enjoy things the same from economy, so I could pay £30 to sit in the back of the plane but I know I would hate it. 🙄 Not sure I understand your comparison. The whole point of flying is the end result - to get you to your destination. The experience is secondary. So yeah, if your goal is just to tick a box and say you've seen Caberet, then I agree, sit where you like. But I assume for Marob (and myself) the priority here is to go and enjoy the show from a seat that gives you the best experience. A musical and a flight are the same. Their purpose is to take you on a journey. One is physical the other emotional. The experience you have on that journey is how we value it. Where you sit for either is intrinsically linked to how good that experience will be, and so how much you will pay for it. Equally, if you work in either industry, you're often aware of deals and offers the wider public aren't privy to. |
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Post by viserys on Mar 2, 2022 7:34:38 GMT
Not sure I understand your comparison. The whole point of flying is the end result - to get you to your destination. The experience is secondary. So yeah, if your goal is just to tick a box and say you've seen Caberet, then I agree, sit where you like. But I assume for Marob (and myself) the priority here is to go and enjoy the show from a seat that gives you the best experience. A musical and a flight are the same. Their purpose is to take you on a journey. One is physical the other emotional. The experience you have on that journey is how we value it. Where you sit for either is intrinsically linked to how good that experience will be, and so how much you will pay for it. Equally, if you work in either industry, you're often aware of deals and offers the wider public aren't privy to. That's a pretty nonsensical comparison. An apt comparison would be if you'd pay $1000 more to sit in a much larger theatre chair and have wine served in proper glasses instead of plastic cups. Whether you sit in Economy or First, the view out of the window is the same. But in a theatre it matters a lot whether you sit up close where you can really see the performers and their facial expressions up close and are immersed in the whole things or whether you sit far away, seeing them only behind a sea of heads and feel really removed from the action. |
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Post by shadypines on Mar 2, 2022 7:44:03 GMT
A musical and a flight are the same. Their purpose is to take you on a journey. One is physical the other emotional. The experience you have on that journey is how we value it. Where you sit for either is intrinsically linked to how good that experience will be, and so how much you will pay for it. Equally, if you work in either industry, you're often aware of deals and offers the wider public aren't privy to. That's a pretty nonsensical comparison. An apt comparison would be if you'd pay $1000 more to sit in a much larger theatre chair and have wine served in proper glasses instead of plastic cups. Whether you sit in Economy or First, the view out of the window is the same. But in a theatre it matters a lot whether you sit up close where you can really see the performers and their facial expressions up close and are immersed in the whole things or whether you sit far away, seeing them only behind a sea of heads and feel really removed from the action. In a plane the view is the same, and the seats are different. Theatre is reverse that obviously. But it doesn't detract from the comparison that some seats are first class for both, and others are economy. But if we must compare view for view, then expecting to sit in prime seating for budget prices is like expecting to rent a penthouse at basement prices. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 2, 2022 7:44:31 GMT
There’s a huge difference between charging £250 and people paying it.
The demand has to be there. This won’t be a sell out without Jessie and Eddie so they will have to reduce ticket prices or have empty seats.
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Post by viserys on Mar 2, 2022 7:49:09 GMT
then expecting to sit in prime seating for budget prices is like expecting to rent a penthouse at basement prices. That was not what marob was saying though, was it? They just said that they'd rather not go at all than waste £30 on a cheap seat from which they wouldn't enjoy the show at all - a sentiment I wholeheartedly share. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 7:50:00 GMT
Not sure I understand your comparison. The whole point of flying is the end result - to get you to your destination. The experience is secondary. So yeah, if your goal is just to tick a box and say you've seen Caberet, then I agree, sit where you like. But I assume for Marob (and myself) the priority here is to go and enjoy the show from a seat that gives you the best experience. A musical and a flight are the same. Their purpose is to take you on a journey. One is physical the other emotional. The experience you have on that journey is how we value it. Where you sit for either is intrinsically linked to how good that experience will be, and so how much you will pay for it. Equally, if you work in either industry, you're often aware of deals and offers the wider public aren't privy to. A musical and a flight are not the same - you don't buy a flight ticket just to spend 2.5hrs in the air. As for knowing how to find deals, that's not the discussion here. The original poster said they would prefer not to sit at the back of the upper circle because they don't enjoy the experience from there. I'm not sure how you can debate that, especially with silly flight comparisons. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 2, 2022 7:55:01 GMT
then expecting to sit in prime seating for budget prices is like expecting to rent a penthouse at basement prices. That was not what marob was saying though, was it? They just said that they'd rather not go at all than waste £30 on a cheap seat from which they wouldn't enjoy the show at all - a sentiment I wholeheartedly share. Me too. There’s no enjoyment for me sitting at the back cramped into a tiny space so if it’s that or nothing, it’s nothing. As for flying first class, that’s a pastime for the super rich, or poor plebs who have scraped enough loyalty points together for a once in a lifetime experience. Do we want that for theatre? |
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Post by shadypines on Mar 2, 2022 7:57:27 GMT
then expecting to sit in prime seating for budget prices is like expecting to rent a penthouse at basement prices. That was not what marob was saying though, was it? They just said that they'd rather not go at all than waste £30 on a cheap seat from which they wouldn't enjoy the show at all - a sentiment I wholeheartedly share. So does that mean you have no intention of seeing this show, or that you would see it if you could sit in the first class seats for £30? |
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Post by shadypines on Mar 2, 2022 8:00:38 GMT
A musical and a flight are the same. Their purpose is to take you on a journey. One is physical the other emotional. The experience you have on that journey is how we value it. Where you sit for either is intrinsically linked to how good that experience will be, and so how much you will pay for it. Equally, if you work in either industry, you're often aware of deals and offers the wider public aren't privy to. A musical and a flight are not the same - you don't buy a flight ticket just to spend 2.5hrs in the air. As for knowing how to find deals, that's not the discussion here. The original poster said they would prefer not to sit at the back of the upper circle because they don't enjoy the experience from there. I'm not sure how you can debate that, especially with silly flight comparisons. And you don't buy a theatre ticket just to spend 2.5hrs sitting in a dark room. You buy a flight to go somewhere physically and a theatre ticket to go somewhere emotionally. |
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Post by ladidah on Mar 2, 2022 8:07:50 GMT
There’s a huge difference between charging £250 and people paying it. The demand has to be there. This won’t be a sell out without Jessie and Eddie so they will have to reduce ticket prices or have empty seats. Agreed. Good reviews once they take over will be hugely important. |
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Post by viserys on Mar 2, 2022 8:18:05 GMT
So does that mean you have no intention of seeing this show, or that you would see it if you could sit in the first class seats for £30? I forked out £90 for a stalls seat when booking first opened just BECAUSE I knew I would want to see Jessie B and Eddie R (both of who I like alot) up close and not as tiny dots from far away. Not a first class seat, but if you really insist on the comparison, then perhaps a Business Class seat I actually paid for with cash and not with loyalty miles. In fact I paid a whole lot more because my ticket was for early January - love nor money could get you any other decent ticket for the rest of Eddie and Jessie's run, so I knew I had to use my ticket or forego the experience. This was at the height of the Omicron madness and tight restrictions, so I had to pay an additional hotel night because I couldn't leave quarantine until my PCR test after arrival came back negative, which was another expense. So if I add hotel and Covid tests to get into the UK and later out again because I just couldn't let that Cabaret ticket go to waste, I definitely did spend £250 on the pleasure of seeing Jessie and Eddie up close and I didn't even get a free glass of champagne with it  |
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Post by theatremiss on Mar 2, 2022 8:58:33 GMT
So does that mean you have no intention of seeing this show, or that you would see it if you could sit in the first class seats for £30? I forked out £90 for a stalls seat when booking first opened just BECAUSE I knew I would want to see Jessie B and Eddie R (both of who I like alot) up close and not as tiny dots from far away. Not a first class seat, but if you really insist on the comparison, then perhaps a Business Class seat I actually paid for with cash and not with loyalty miles. In fact I paid a whole lot more because my ticket was for early January - love nor money could get you any other decent ticket for the rest of Eddie and Jessie's run, so I knew I had to use my ticket or forego the experience. This was at the height of the Omicron madness and tight restrictions, so I had to pay an additional hotel night because I couldn't leave quarantine until my PCR test after arrival came back negative, which was another expense. So if I add hotel and Covid tests to get into the UK and later out again because I just couldn't let that Cabaret ticket go to waste, I definitely did spend £250 on the pleasure of seeing Jessie and Eddie up close and I didn't even get a free glass of champagne with it I was lucky, I got a good front DC seat the moment the tickets for the original cast, I have a £30 ticket for Fra and Amy and a front DC for the next cast in July. I also travel business class when I fly. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 9:14:02 GMT
A musical and a flight are not the same - you don't buy a flight ticket just to spend 2.5hrs in the air. As for knowing how to find deals, that's not the discussion here. The original poster said they would prefer not to sit at the back of the upper circle because they don't enjoy the experience from there. I'm not sure how you can debate that, especially with silly flight comparisons. And you don't buy a theatre ticket just to spend 2.5hrs sitting in a dark room. You buy a flight to go somewhere physically and a theatre ticket to go somewhere emotionally. Agreed. And with a flight you will get there physically regardless of where you sit. But in a theatre, if you are sitting in a seat where you don't feel connected with the actors, material or show, you will not get there emotionally. Which is why I and many others don't like to sit at the back of the upper circle. |
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Post by shadypines on Mar 2, 2022 9:18:09 GMT
And you don't buy a theatre ticket just to spend 2.5hrs sitting in a dark room. You buy a flight to go somewhere physically and a theatre ticket to go somewhere emotionally. Agreed. And with a flight you will get there physically regardless of where you sit. But in a theatre, if you are sitting in a seat where you don't feel connected with the actors, material or show, you will not get there emotionally. Which is why I and many others don't like to sit at the back of the upper circle. I think whether you "get there emotionally " is a matter of perspective. There are people on this thread that have sat is great seats and not gotten there emotionally. And others who have sat in £30 upper circle who have had an emotional experience. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 9:22:45 GMT
Agreed. And with a flight you will get there physically regardless of where you sit. But in a theatre, if you are sitting in a seat where you don't feel connected with the actors, material or show, you will not get there emotionally. Which is why I and many others don't like to sit at the back of the upper circle. I think whether you "get there emotionally " is a matter of perspective. There are people on this thread that have sat is great seats and not gotten there emotionally. And others who have sat in £30 upper circle who have had an emotional experience. But your original post used an eyeroll emoji to ridicule someone's feeling about sitting at the back of the upper circle. And an analogy I didn't agree with. That's all. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 2, 2022 9:32:23 GMT
I’d say it depends on the show. If a show gets you, I don’t think it matters where you sit. I’ve sat in bad seats for a show and been in tears at the end. And sat in the very best seats and been totally unmoved by other shows that are supposed to move you. Sometimes being closer you are aware of other elements that take you out of the play/musical like wig fronts, obtrusive mics, activity in the wings etc.
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Post by shady23 on Mar 2, 2022 10:53:15 GMT
Nothing wrong with buying the best seat you can afford.
If it wasn't for people in the expensive table seats there would be no thirty pound tickets.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 11:30:11 GMT
Can anyone tell me if there is merch, and how much programs are? I’m visiting from the states and trying to budget my time here carefully! Don’t usually buy programs but want one from this, cheers and thanks!
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Post by barrowside on Mar 2, 2022 11:38:00 GMT
The programmes are £15 which is expensive. It is a nice production though with good essays. It's in the style and proportions of a 12" album sleeve. We had a wonderful evening at the show so we did want these as a memento.
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