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Post by saral on Nov 12, 2021 20:23:09 GMT
Missing the point. It's not the test, it's the fact that they may not be able to go if they test positive and then lose money on what they have booked and planned. Well of course they cannot go, but then the tickets will be transferred to a different day. Have I walked into the Twilight Zone or something? What problem can anyone have here? ATG were clearly strict about the virus when you booked. People had to have a negative test to go to Wimbledon, it was part of the privilege of being able to get back to doing things. The virus is spreading here, ATG are trying to stop it spreading due to their show. It's commendable. Ppl did not need a negative test to go to Wimbledon it was fully vaccinated or a negative test |
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Post by saral on Nov 12, 2021 20:24:10 GMT
For those complaining put the 'result' in as negative...it's all on trust anyway
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Post by floorshow on Nov 12, 2021 20:38:42 GMT
For those complaining put the 'result' in as negative...it's all on trust anyway Definitely better to let the people sitting near you unknowingly share the risk you're bringing rather than go a different night, what's the worst that could happen? |
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Post by interval99 on Nov 12, 2021 20:41:14 GMT
For those complaining put the 'result' in as negative...it's all on trust anyway And when you report it you get a text saying you reported negative but then it states under that statement you maybe be infectious anyway! It does have your name and date of birth and date of the test at the top of the text |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 20:53:16 GMT
For those complaining put the 'result' in as negative...it's all on trust anyway The issue with that, however, is it’s not only incredibly dishonest, but you could potentially spread the virus to others in more vulnerable positions than yourself. This is still causing long term health difficulties and killing people, or are we now so self absorbed that we’ve forgotten that? Your right to not take a test is more important than someone else’s right to live, right? I’m aghast to read such a suggestion if I’m honest. |
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Post by saral on Nov 12, 2021 21:10:56 GMT
How many ppl have managed to go to theatres all over the country without needing a negative test since theatres re-opened...if theatres were a concern as an area to spread the virus, tests would be mandatory in all or they would be closed down
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 21:15:54 GMT
How many ppl have managed to go to theatres all over the country without needing a negative test since theatres re-opened...if theatres were a concern as an area to spread the virus, tests would be mandatory in all or they would be closed down Except there is no longer an effective way of tracking infections since track and trace is rarely active anymore. You can’t say that theatres are safe spaces with no evidence to base that on. We do know, however, that close contact with others increases our chances of infection. Whether that be in a theatre or not. Surely you wouldn’t invite a person into your own home if you knew they were positive? Please stop trying to justify yourself, it’s a dangerous school of thought to be spreading. |
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Post by saral on Nov 12, 2021 21:37:50 GMT
How many ppl have managed to go to theatres all over the country without needing a negative test since theatres re-opened...if theatres were a concern as an area to spread the virus, tests would be mandatory in all or they would be closed down Except there is no longer an effective way of tracking infections since track and trace is rarely active anymore. You can’t say that theatres are safe spaces with no evidence to base that on. We do know, however, that close contact with others increases our chances of infection. Whether that be in a theatre or not. Surely you wouldn’t invite a person into your own home if you knew they were positive? Please stop trying to justify yourself, it’s a dangerous school of thought to be spreading. Have you been to a theatre since they re-opened? |
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Post by showoff on Nov 12, 2021 21:38:14 GMT
For those complaining put the 'result' in as negative...it's all on trust anyway Do you think you should be advising this? Morally, are you OK with this? So advising someone who is positive to go out and spread it to potentially vulnerable people who could die or get very sick and live with long COVID? You're OK with that? |
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Post by floorshow on Nov 12, 2021 21:48:15 GMT
Except there is no longer an effective way of tracking infections since track and trace is rarely active anymore. You can’t say that theatres are safe spaces with no evidence to base that on. We do know, however, that close contact with others increases our chances of infection. Whether that be in a theatre or not. Surely you wouldn’t invite a person into your own home if you knew they were positive? Please stop trying to justify yourself, it’s a dangerous school of thought to be spreading. Have you been to a theatre since they re-opened? I have, many times. Wimbledon too. I'm triple jabbed and I am PCRd regularly but that's beside the point, I would never even consider testing positive and then lying about that result just so I could go out for the night. It's a level of stupidity and selfishness that I'm genuinely surprised someone would even suggest. |
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Post by saral on Nov 12, 2021 21:54:00 GMT
Have you been to a theatre since they re-opened? I have, many times. Wimbledon too. I'm triple jabbed and I am PCRd regularly but that's beside the point, I would never even consider testing positive and then lying about that result just so I could go out for the night. It's a level of stupidity and selfishness that I'm genuinely surprised someone would even suggest. I was actually going to ask if you insisted on the ppl next to you testing before taking their seat |
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Nov 12, 2021 21:54:39 GMT
If doing one free test stops people from booking, those people didn't really want to go anyway. Not sure about that. Lateral flow tests are not exactly pleasant things. And many people do simply find things like that difficult and there is no free or even cheap way to grt someone to do it for you. It's not exactly pleasant contacting COVID either. .... I've heard childbirth is also painful. Come on now. It's a swab. |
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Nov 12, 2021 21:56:01 GMT
For those complaining put the 'result' in as negative...it's all on trust anyway SELFISH. SELFISH. SELFISH. Shame on you. Thanks for potentially putting people at risk. That's not OK. What is wrong with you? |
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Post by saral on Nov 12, 2021 21:56:14 GMT
For those complaining put the 'result' in as negative...it's all on trust anyway Do you think you should be advising this? Morally, are you OK with this? So advising someone who is positive to go out and spread it to potentially vulnerable people who could die or get very sick and live with long COVID? You're OK with that? Hardly advertising, a tiny % of the population read this forum...i first saw it mentioned on a Wimbledon forum, so I'm not the only one thinking about it |
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Nov 12, 2021 21:56:59 GMT
And I am officially not reading this thread any more- I cannot believe what I am reading?!??!!?
I'm excited to see Cabaret - never seen the film or the stage show.
Will be interesting.
[just responded to a poster below who I swear is just saying stuff to stir things on TB]
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Nov 12, 2021 21:57:30 GMT
Do you think you should be advising this? Morally, are you OK with this? So advising someone who is positive to go out and spread it to potentially vulnerable people who could die or get very sick and live with long COVID? You're OK with that? Hardly advertising, a tiny % of the population read this forum...i first saw it mentioned on a Wimbledon forum, so I'm not the only one thinking about it Does not mean it's the right thing to do. |
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Post by floorshow on Nov 12, 2021 22:00:01 GMT
I have, many times. Wimbledon too. I'm triple jabbed and I am PCRd regularly but that's beside the point, I would never even consider testing positive and then lying about that result just so I could go out for the night. It's a level of stupidity and selfishness that I'm genuinely surprised someone would even suggest. I was actually going to ask if you insisted on the ppl next to you testing before taking their seat You are responsible for your behaviour, not the people unfortunate to be sitting next you if you manage to get in knowing you haven't tested or met the T&Cs of entry. Just you, no-one else. One thing has nothing to do with the other. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 22:01:49 GMT
If doing one free test stops people from booking, those people didn't really want to go anyway. Not sure about that. Lateral flow tests are not exactly pleasant things. And many people do simply find things like that difficult and there is no free or even cheap way to grt someone to do it for you. If a person can't deal with an unpleasant sensation for literally 30 seconds max they will really struggle with so many things in life. And just because something is a tiny bit unpleasant isn't an excuse to throw a selfish childish tantrum about doing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 22:05:19 GMT
I have, many times. Wimbledon too. I'm triple jabbed and I am PCRd regularly but that's beside the point, I would never even consider testing positive and then lying about that result just so I could go out for the night. It's a level of stupidity and selfishness that I'm genuinely surprised someone would even suggest. I was actually going to ask if you insisted on the ppl next to you testing before taking their seat For me personally, that’s a very different situation. My objection comes from someone deliberately evading a safety precaution that’s being enforced for everybody’s protection. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 22:07:04 GMT
I'm not mocking anything, I don't know where you got that idea from. People's safety should just be put above one person's '''right''' to see the show, especially if that person is ill and infectious. I do think testing should be mandatory at all venues, but I don't make the rules. By saying 'just so they don't lose out on the cost of a train ticket' you are belittling the amount and making it seem irrelevant. Its a substantial amount of money for many people. I don't disagree to a point, but then theatres should have done this from the start, like air travel and border control, so you know that when you book there is a risk you may not be able to go. This should have been a nationwide agreement across all venues.Instead we have had a summer of people showing vaccine proof and being allowed, or in many venues cases not even checking that. Nothing is ever guaranteed. You could be hit by a car, your train could be cancelled, there could be a freak flood. All risks you take when you book anything, and all would again cause you to miss out. The booking conditions clearly stated proof of Covid status would be required, so the Playhouse are entirely within their rights to make people test. That is the risk every single person who bought a ticket took. If they chose to interpret the conditions a different way then that is their choice, but it doesn't make what the theatre is doing illegal. On the contrary, it is not only legal but morally responsible. Individual rights must be balanced against the greater public good. |
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Post by showoff on Nov 12, 2021 22:08:20 GMT
Do you think you should be advising this? Morally, are you OK with this? So advising someone who is positive to go out and spread it to potentially vulnerable people who could die or get very sick and live with long COVID? You're OK with that? Hardly advertising, a tiny % of the population read this forum...i first saw it mentioned on a Wimbledon forum, so I'm not the only one thinking about it What does it matter how many people read the forum, you advise just one person who tests positive to go anyway and fake their results you're helping put people's lives at risk. Jesus. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 22:10:44 GMT
Do you think you should be advising this? Morally, are you OK with this? So advising someone who is positive to go out and spread it to potentially vulnerable people who could die or get very sick and live with long COVID? You're OK with that? Hardly advertising, a tiny % of the population read this forum...i first saw it mentioned on a Wimbledon forum, so I'm not the only one thinking about it It's always a shame to be reminded that some people appear to have no social conscience at all, but even more depressing when they openly admit it. Your selfishness is beyond incomprehensible. |
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Post by saral on Nov 12, 2021 22:11:58 GMT
So where do we draw the line, the person next to me on the train doesn't need to test before getting on the train and i would be sitting next to them longer than being in the theatre
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 22:18:25 GMT
So where do we draw the line, the person next to me on the train doesn't need to test before getting on the train and i would be sitting next to them longer than being in the theatre I think you’re missing the point. It’s about eliminating the risk as much as possible, nobody believes they can exist in 2021 without there being a chance of being exposed to a single positive case. It’s damage limitation. Also, it’s more about what you can do as an individual, for others. What we are discussing here is deceit. |
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Post by floorshow on Nov 12, 2021 22:20:58 GMT
So where do we draw the line, the person next to me on the train doesn't need to test before getting on the train and i would be sitting next to them longer than being in the theatre The line is spelled out to you in clear language when you book the tickets. Or get on the train. Or enter the shop. Or go to a hospital. That's the line. Beyond the line is your respect for others and actually understanding why the line is there and it's impact. There are only 2 types of people who have an issue with the line, those who are genuinely medically exempt and the ignorant. No-one else can tell the difference from afar but I would hope we do all know the truth about ourselves inside. |
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