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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 1:56:08 GMT
Poland was in my top 3, so was surprised that it initally scored so low, then happy to see it do so well.
I need to find out how the final public poll scores were given....
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 5:56:03 GMT
I was very much in the #anyonebutrussia camp as I didn't want to give that regime a chance to grandstand Isn't it still the case that everyone wants to come second, so they have the prestige of doing well without having to go though all the pain of staging the contest the next year? It should be arranged for Russia to win every single year. "And the winner of the 2028 Eurovision Song Contest is... Russia!" "What, we win again? This is a fix." "How can you suggest that?" "We haven't submitted an entry since 2019." |
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Post by alece10 on May 15, 2016 6:57:08 GMT
Its official. Europe HATES us.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 15, 2016 7:07:43 GMT
Its official. Europe HATES us. We're not exactly endearing ourselves to them at the moment though are we. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 7:36:22 GMT
I think they need to split it up to reduce the effect of regional voting. There's clearly a problem with the voting when countries that routinely came in the top three now struggle to reach the middle.
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Post by Michael on May 15, 2016 8:00:26 GMT
Its official. Europe HATES us. Not as much as us, though. Just for the record: Would the referendum had been called off if you had won the Eurovision? |
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Post by danielwhit on May 15, 2016 9:17:42 GMT
I think they need to split it up to reduce the effect of regional voting. There's clearly a problem with the voting when countries that routinely came in the top three now struggle to reach the middle. Remember there are two compounding factors on this: 1. Countries can now sing in any language they link - until the late 90s they had to sing in an official language of their nation. Therefore it's not a surprise Ireland and United Kingdom did so well during that era. As soon as everyone could, broadly, understand all the songs, the vague monopoly was disappearing. 2. The jury vote becoming 50% was introduced purely to avoid televoting becoming "vote for your friends" - and I genuinely think the jury votes, on the whole, had things much better than the televotes this year. Mind you, what our jury were smoking to give Georgia 12 points I have got no idea.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 9:39:51 GMT
Best moment of the night
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Post by Angram on May 15, 2016 9:52:33 GMT
Its official. Europe HATES us. Europe must hate Germany even more then - bottom twice in succession now. I think UK are victims of their flippant (Woganesque) attitude to Eurovision. Other countries send their top artists (many of whom have multi nation fan bases), we send talent show cast offs and has beens. I'm sure Joe and Jake did their very best but the song hasn't even broken into the top 100. Maybe not a vintage year song-wise but what a show Sweden put on. Petra and Mans, great presenters, not afraid to make gentle mockery of their country's Eurovision obsession. And my favourite ever Eurovision song - Bosnia 2006 Lelja by Hari Mata Hari. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 9:58:08 GMT
Its official. Europe HATES us. Mmm. But they don't hate us enough to stay away from our capital judging from the huge numbers on the streets, buses, tubes... Or our theatres. It's mostly European school groups keeping stuff like Thriller in the West End. |
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Post by alece10 on May 15, 2016 10:37:49 GMT
Petra and Mans, best hosts ever. They worked so well together and very funny. Loved the interval act last night making fun of Eurovision.
We should bring them over here to do some TV and don't you think that Mans has got musical theatre potential?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 15, 2016 10:43:48 GMT
Hard to believe that Mans was caught up in that news story about him being a 'homophobe' just before last years contest isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 10:49:42 GMT
Its official. Europe HATES us. It's not that, it's about who you have connections to and the continent have much greater overlap between each other (especially countries which used to be part of another one). That won't stop the xenophobes believing that it is about 'hate' anyway, as it's the language they speak.... Nothing to do with music, of course, but Britain's efforts are usually woeful on that score too. |
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Post by alece10 on May 15, 2016 10:58:16 GMT
Well its clearly political as the Ukraine song was meant to be an anti Russian song and all the eastern block countries public votes gave the Ukraine the top marks and you cant tell me that it was because the song was good. It was dreary.
And I cant agree about our efforts being woeful. The song was good (not the best) but if that song was done by 1D as a normal pop release it would be number 1 in the charts. We deserved a much higher ranking than we got.
Oh and my favourite ever Eurovision song
Ding a Dong, by Teach In.
BOM did a hilarious version of it at the last West End Eurovision (which you can find on youtube)
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 10:59:42 GMT
Its official. Europe HATES us. Mmm. But they don't hate us enough to stay away from our capital judging from the huge numbers on the streets, buses, tubes... Or our theatres. It's mostly European school groups keeping stuff like Thriller in the West End. Are you saying Europeans should stay away from London? |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 11:01:42 GMT
Its official. Europe HATES us. Not true. The UK seems to hate Europe. I've never met any European who hates the UK. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 11:05:41 GMT
Its official. Europe HATES us. Europe must hate Germany even more then - bottom twice in succession now. I think UK are victims of their flippant (Woganesque) attitude to Eurovision. Other countries send their top artists (many of whom have multi nation fan bases), we send talent show cast offs and has beens. I'm sure Joe and Jake did their very best but the song hasn't even broken into the top 100. Maybe not a vintage year song-wise but what a show Sweden put on. Petra and Mans, great presenters, not afraid to make gentle mockery of their country's Eurovision obsession. And my favourite ever Eurovision song - Bosnia 2006 Lelja by Hari Mata Hari. Most countries don't send their best acts. My country never has. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 11:16:13 GMT
Well its clearly political as the Ukraine song was meant to be an anti Russian song and all the eastern block countries public votes gave the Ukraine the top marks and you cant tell me that it was because the song was good. It was dreary. And I cant agree about our efforts being woeful. The song was good (not the best) but if that song was done by 1D as a normal pop release it would be number 1 in the charts. We deserved a much higher ranking than we got. Oh and my favourite ever Eurovision song Ding a Dong, by Teach In. BOM did a hilarious version of it at the last West End Eurovision (which you can find on youtube) It would succeed in that case not because of the song but the group (and, more to the point, the massive publicity machine behind it). As it is, it hasn't exactly been a chart success. And of course the public voting is petty and point scoring, it's what passes as democracy nowadays. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 11:17:56 GMT
The UK is second from last.... is that too late to make an impression or perfect place to be remembered?? I think we'll do the best we have in a long time. Yes, well predicted. The UK came second from last! |
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Post by Phantom of London on May 15, 2016 12:07:29 GMT
The highest British votes went to firstly Lithuania, then Poland. I wonder if both having large vibrant communities over here, wanted to demonstrate patriotic spirit for their own country, rather than quality of song?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 12:25:50 GMT
The UK gave Poland it's highest mark last year, too. Though that might have been more to do with buxom milk churners during the performance...
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 13:40:57 GMT
I was a bit tipsy at a party so missed this thread haha, but I was so fuming that Australia didn't win. They easily had the best song of the entire night and the Ukraine song was actually crap. That woman couldn't even sing. Urgh.
But in terms of the way the voting is done now, very clever, makes it a lot more tense!
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 13:50:28 GMT
I was a bit tipsy at a party so missed this thread haha, but I was so fuming that Australia didn't win. They easily had the best song of the entire night and the Ukraine song was actually crap. That woman couldn't even sing. Urgh. But in terms of the way the voting is done now, very clever, makes it a lot more tense! The Ukraine song was indeed crap. But the Australian song was pretty weak as well imo |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 13:52:02 GMT
Mmm. But they don't hate us enough to stay away from our capital judging from the huge numbers on the streets, buses, tubes... Or our theatres. It's mostly European school groups keeping stuff like Thriller in the West End. Are you saying Europeans should stay away from London? Nope. I'm saying we can't be hated that much judging from the numbers of Europeans in London and in our theatres. If Europeans hated us that much then they would stay away. Is that clear enough now? |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 14:09:52 GMT
Are you saying Europeans should stay away from London? Nope. I'm saying we can't be hated that much judging from the numbers of Europeans in London and in our theatres. If Europeans hated us that much then they would stay away. Is that clear enough now? Yeah, Europeans don't hate the UK at all. But it seems like the UK hates Europe, and Europeans. Two months ago I was in London on a trip with my university. Multiple classmates of mine experienced people telling them to "f*** off back to Europe" and calling them "f***ing immigrants". I've been going to the UK for years and never experienced anything like this before. Mind you, I wasn't there when the comments were made so it's very well possible that some of my classmates were acting stupid  (sorry for the swear words) |
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