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Post by robertb213 on Dec 6, 2021 15:41:02 GMT
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Post by digne on Dec 6, 2021 17:10:05 GMT
Filming was allowed afaik - they had signs up saying to please not film the entire show nonstop out of respect for the people next to you, but taking photos/filming during the show wasn't forbidden.
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Post by danb on Dec 6, 2021 17:22:00 GMT
I did like her final scene. She gave it the power it needs but I’d rather hear the script not a rough paraphrased version of it. The orchestra stuttered a bit in the final passage taking a bit of oomph out of it but on the whole it sounded great. This is my litmus test for the whole show.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 6, 2021 18:14:23 GMT
I did like her final scene. She gave it the power it needs but I’d rather hear the script not a rough paraphrased version of it. The orchestra stuttered a bit in the final passage taking a bit of oomph out of it but on the whole it sounded great. This is my litmus test for the whole show. Are you telling me that she wasn’t word perfect for that final iconic speech? If so that is unforgivable. And as much as I love a showy belter (new drag name… please welcome to the stage Showeeee Belterrrr!) I don’t think that performance in the IG clip was particularly good 😐 |
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Post by danb on Dec 6, 2021 18:27:52 GMT
That is exactly what I’m telling you. (but no, I’m not going). 😂
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Post by distantcousin on Dec 7, 2021 8:50:05 GMT
I did like her final scene. She gave it the power it needs but I’d rather hear the script not a rough paraphrased version of it. The orchestra stuttered a bit in the final passage taking a bit of oomph out of it but on the whole it sounded great. This is my litmus test for the whole show. Are you telling me that she wasn’t word perfect for that final iconic speech? If so that is unforgivable. And as much as I love a showy belter (new drag name… please welcome to the stage Showeeee Belterrrr!) I don’t think that performance in the IG clip was particularly good 😐 Indeed. From the clips I've seen of her, La Murray seems to be lacking much "light and shade", but maybe as it's not the overall performance, it's hard to judge. |
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Post by magnificentdonkey on Dec 10, 2021 17:34:24 GMT
This should've been recorded and made public, of course.
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Post by theoracle on Dec 10, 2021 17:43:55 GMT
I enjoyed it very much when I went last week. But on the topic of recording - isn’t what makes theatre special that it is temporary and of it’s moment? The Royal Albert Hall is also still a very special space despite what critics may say and I don’t think any recording would’ve authentically replicated the thrill of the orchestra, the splendour of Mazz and Ramin’s performances or the general atmosphere.
I do get the sense that Mazz Murray isn’t done with the role yet. Alex Parker’s having a ball these days though it seems and hopefully we’ll get more of these concerts. Would really love to see a concert of Stephen Ward next.
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Post by scarpia on Dec 10, 2021 20:30:15 GMT
I did like her final scene. She gave it the power it needs but I’d rather hear the script not a rough paraphrased version of it. The orchestra stuttered a bit in the final passage taking a bit of oomph out of it but on the whole it sounded great. This is my litmus test for the whole show. Are you telling me that she wasn’t word perfect for that final iconic speech? If so that is unforgivable. And as much as I love a showy belter (new drag name… please welcome to the stage Showeeee Belterrrr!) I don’t think that performance in the IG clip was particularly good 😐 I agree that this is unacceptable. I was shocked at the AP performances at how underrehearsed both cast and orchestra were, with MM frequently flubbing lines and basically entirely rewriting the closing speech (the most memorable lines of the whole thing!) and the orchestra totally messing up the entr'acte. I'd rather hear a Cameron-Mackintosh-sized band play the score right than a full orchestra give a lousy rendition. |
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Post by digipal on Dec 10, 2021 21:14:04 GMT
When you hear the score played on the Symphonic Suites recording, it does take you back to the glory days of the original west end run with Patti and the rework with Betty. Apart from the Coliseum run with Glenn, I feel Sunset has been very poorly served of late with various runs of questionable performances. Despite it being one of my favourite musicals, I hate to say that I feel it's time to carefully pack it away until it can be brought back as it should be. I feel that the rumoured film version isn't / shouldn't happen now. Just my opinion
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Post by fiyerorocher on Dec 10, 2021 23:31:50 GMT
The show at the RAH was recorded, but very vaguely 'for promotional purposes'
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Post by inthenose on May 15, 2022 18:43:42 GMT
Nothing new here, but an excellent summary of ALW's shenanigans when sacking LuPone. And the inevitable payout for LuPone.
Good old Andy.
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Post by Oliver on May 19, 2022 17:49:50 GMT
Nothing new here, but an excellent summary of ALW's shenanigans when sacking LuPone. And the inevitable payout for LuPone. Good old Andy. I don't see how anyone could watch this video and feel sympathetic towards her, though. She seems like a deeply unpleasant character to me. I heard the whole of that 'who do you think you are?' rant and I couldn't understand why the audience were applauding her for her disgraceful behaviour. She is supposed to be a professional. She comes across as a spoiled brat. She is a mediocre singer too. |
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Post by WireHangers on May 19, 2022 20:18:15 GMT
Nothing new here, but an excellent summary of ALW's shenanigans when sacking LuPone. And the inevitable payout for LuPone. Good old Andy. I don't see how anyone could watch this video and feel sympathetic towards her, though. She seems like a deeply unpleasant character to me. I heard the whole of that 'who do you think you are?' rant and I couldn't understand why the audience were applauding her for her disgraceful behaviour. She is supposed to be a professional. She comes across as a spoiled brat. She is a mediocre singer too. Be that as it may, he still broke a contract and she was entitled to sue him. |
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Post by steve10086 on May 19, 2022 21:03:22 GMT
Nothing new here, but an excellent summary of ALW's shenanigans when sacking LuPone. And the inevitable payout for LuPone. Good old Andy. I don't see how anyone could watch this video and feel sympathetic towards her, though. She seems like a deeply unpleasant character to me. I heard the whole of that 'who do you think you are?' rant and I couldn't understand why the audience were applauding her for her disgraceful behaviour. She is supposed to be a professional. She comes across as a spoiled brat. She is a mediocre singer too. Certainly a very distinctive singer, but I don’t think you can call her mediocre. |
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Post by max on May 19, 2022 21:40:29 GMT
I wonder how it would have played out if ALW had proudly stood by his leading lady, and....the New York critics refused to budge from their negative view of her formed from the London run (however fair/unfair). She'd be remembered as the 'star' who sunk SUNSET BOULEVARD on Broadway, and would probably say they should have released her from having to sing that terrible music.
I always found it pathetic she's so rude about the EVITA experience, but then signed up to be in Sunset Boulevard. For a loudmouth who makes such play of 'telling it like it is', she can clearly be two-faced and take an opportunity when she wants to. Why not follow your values and tastes and choose to NOT be in a piece with music you hate. It's not difficult.
First time I heard the EVITA soundtrack I was in shock that she was the best that America could come up with. Yes apparently she wasn't 100 percent well when it was recorded, but forget how nasal it is, it was the slurred diction that staggered me.
In criticising ALW ("you must EDIT", well he edited her...) she praised David Mamet. How's that working out?
For those that have read her autobiography - is there anything on which she ever says she was wrong or misjudged something? Doesn't feel like that would be in her vocabulary. I can imagine he saying "I was wrong" in the context of 'I was so right I should have gone further' but that's about it.
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Post by Oliver on May 20, 2022 1:05:03 GMT
I don't see how anyone could watch this video and feel sympathetic towards her, though. She seems like a deeply unpleasant character to me. I heard the whole of that 'who do you think you are?' rant and I couldn't understand why the audience were applauding her for her disgraceful behaviour. She is supposed to be a professional. She comes across as a spoiled brat. She is a mediocre singer too. Certainly a very distinctive singer, but I don’t think you can call her mediocre. Maybe not mediocre but very overrated, no? |
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Post by chernjam on May 20, 2022 1:32:14 GMT
I wonder how it would have played out if ALW had proudly stood by his leading lady, and....the New York critics refused to budge from their negative view of her formed from the London run (however fair/unfair). She'd be remembered as the 'star' who sunk SUNSET BOULEVARD on Broadway, and would probably say they should have released her from having to sing that terrible music. I always found it pathetic she's so rude about the EVITA experience, but then signed up to be in Sunset Boulevard. For a loudmouth who makes such play of 'telling it like it is', she can clearly be two-faced and take an opportunity when she wants to. Why not follow your values and tastes and choose to NOT be in a piece with music you hate. It's not difficult. First time I heard the EVITA soundtrack I was in shock that she was the best that America could come up with. Yes apparently she wasn't 100 percent well when it was recorded, but forget how nasal it is, it was the slurred diction that staggered me. In criticising ALW ("you must EDIT", well he edited her...) she praised David Mamet. How's that working out? For those that have read her autobiography - is there anything on which she ever says she was wrong or misjudged something? Doesn't feel like that would be in her vocabulary. I can imagine he saying "I was wrong" in the context of 'I was so right I should have gone further' but that's about it. I think your spot on here Max. Particularly when she's now turned on Evita. Yet, she had a moment pause from her feud with ALW to sing DCFMA at the Grammys, only to resume her really pathetic and childish slights on him, most recently saying the most overrated shows are Cats and Phantom and that there should be a limit how long they run... Look I get it that ALW broke the contract (and the video seems to have dug up different responses that I hadn't heard at the time, namely that Paramount said they had nothing to do with casting, etc.) I've been a huge fan of ALW and Sunset since the debut. But seeing those quotes, along with Broadway Bob's Sunset Project interview with Amy Powers on Spotify - ALW definitely comes across as a coward in terms of dealing with difficult situations. So fine, call him out on that. But Patti LuPone has come across as incredibly immature and unprofessional with her attacks on his creative works. When she auditioned and competed for these roles and desperately wanted them... even to the point of jealousy that Streisand recorded them first (and there's a bit of a dispute about whether Patti had been offered the LA and NY premiere. I remember reading at the time that she turned that down saying it would be too much of a circus going through three major openings so close together, since the plan was London Summer 1993, LA Winter 1993 and NY Spring 1994) This doesn't excuse his behavior, but Patti's hasn't made her sympathetic |
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