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Post by FrontroverPaul on Mar 22, 2021 23:27:36 GMT
According to the official Batb Disney website "Our production of Beauty and the Beast will now open at the Bristol Hippodrome ... 25 August 2021". Further down the page it reads " Bristol Hippodrome 24 August - 18 September (rescheduled) Back on sale soon"
The Hippodrome / ATG website confirms 25 (not 24) August opening. It was originally scheduled at Bristol from 12 August.
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Post by sph on Mar 23, 2021 1:42:53 GMT
I'm so intrigued by this production, I hope nothing else happens to prevent or postpone it!
I can't wait to see production shots! The design of the original was just spot-on perfect! The enchanted objects, the huge castle - back in the 80s and 90s sets were so big and opulent. I hope they don't cut it down this time and that they do something new and interesting. But I can't imagine a show beginning on tour to have the same scale as the original.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 23, 2021 2:28:09 GMT
Sad that Leicester has missed out, due to no fault of their own.
So confirmed to play;
Bristol Hippodrome - 24/08 - 18/09 Liverpool Empire - 23/09 - 16/10 Edinburgh Playhouse 21/10 - 27/11 Cardiff Millennium Centre - 09/12 - 15/01/2022
Dublin Bord Gais - November 2022 (is this a Xmas sit down?)
So guess this will also play Southampton, Plymouth, Manchester, Birmingham, Bradford & Newcastle. Possibly it could also play Glasgow, Aberdeen, Canterbury, Leeds, Milton Keynes & Norwich.
So wonder what room this has now to fit London in, unless it is a tour stop in Summer 2022 at the London Palladium/Dominion.
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Post by danb on Mar 23, 2021 6:06:06 GMT
Bizarre that they’d put Bristol & Cardiff in the same block. They normally spread them out to encourage repeat visits.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 7:26:48 GMT
Sad that Leicester has missed out, due to no fault of their own. So confirmed to play; Bristol Hippodrome - 24/08 - 18/09 Liverpool Empire - 23/09 - 16/10 Edinburgh Playhouse 21/10 - 27/11 Cardiff Millennium Centre - 09/12 - 15/01/2022 Dublin Bord Gais - November 2022 (is this a Xmas sit down?) So guess this will also play Southampton, Plymouth, Manchester, Birmingham, Bradford & Newcastle. Possibly it could also play Glasgow, Aberdeen, Canterbury, Leeds, Milton Keynes & Norwich. So wonder what room this has now to fit London in, unless it is a tour stop in Summer 2022 at the London Palladium/Dominion. I would imagine it playing Sunderland over Newcastle as it’s a much bigger stage, but I’m not sure.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 23, 2021 8:35:27 GMT
They will do a Leicester season at some point. They will have developed a relationship with Curve and will want to honour that.
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Post by Sean on Mar 23, 2021 13:39:47 GMT
Sad that Leicester has missed out, due to no fault of their own. So confirmed to play; Bristol Hippodrome - 24/08 - 18/09 Liverpool Empire - 23/09 - 16/10 Edinburgh Playhouse 21/10 - 27/11 Cardiff Millennium Centre - 09/12 - 15/01/2022 Dublin Bord Gais - November 2022 (is this a Xmas sit down?) So guess this will also play Southampton, Plymouth, Manchester, Birmingham, Bradford & Newcastle. Possibly it could also play Glasgow, Aberdeen, Canterbury, Leeds, Milton Keynes & Norwich. So wonder what room this has now to fit London in, unless it is a tour stop in Summer 2022 at the London Palladium/Dominion. It is only playing dublin for the first half of December which seems odd. It must be playing somewhere else over christmas?
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 23, 2021 15:55:52 GMT
What is even more odd, in that case, is the 'launch' page on the official website, the one in blue, clearly states, "...we have been able to reschedule the engagement to Christmas 2022." Perhaps I'm being old fashioned, and I know it seems to gets earlier every year, but to me Christmas actually means Christmas, rather than late November / early December.
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Post by Sean on Mar 23, 2021 17:28:17 GMT
What is even more odd, in that case, is the 'launch' page on the official website, the one in blue, clearly states, "...we have been able to reschedule the engagement to Christmas 2022." Perhaps I'm being old fashioned, and I know it seems to gets earlier every year, but to me Christmas actually means Christmas, rather than late November / early December. I agree. Christmas means during the christmas period to me but the dates for Dublin are 24th November to 17th December.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 23, 2021 18:37:33 GMT
If it was to open in London after Dublin, I would have thought it would want to be in London for most of November and December and not move theatre during the busiest time. Cannot see it going into London in 2022.
Also is the London Palladium availability hindered by the Michael McIntyre Show that happens around Christmas and is filmed at the London Palladium?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 19:21:58 GMT
What is even more odd, in that case, is the 'launch' page on the official website, the one in blue, clearly states, "...we have been able to reschedule the engagement to Christmas 2022." Perhaps I'm being old fashioned, and I know it seems to gets earlier every year, but to me Christmas actually means Christmas, rather than late November / early December. I agree. Christmas means during the christmas period to me but the dates for Dublin are 24th November to 17th December. Well by the schedule retail works to now, Christmas is pretty much over by 17th December
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Post by Sam on Mar 24, 2021 9:29:49 GMT
If it was to open in London after Dublin, I would have thought it would want to be in London for most of November and December and not move theatre during the busiest time. Cannot see it going into London in 2022. Also is the London Palladium availability hindered by the Michael McIntyre Show that happens around Christmas and is filmed at the London Palladium? We saw a Christmas recording of his show on the 10th Nov 2019.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Apr 19, 2021 21:19:49 GMT
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Post by sph on Apr 19, 2021 21:38:10 GMT
I think it's slightly weird and invasive to transcribe someone else's emails and then release them to damage their career.
I don't support the behaviour of the big "untouchable" producers like Rudin who think they can do what they like, but I don't want to shoot down those who perhaps got their careers because of him and are caught in an awkward place.
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Post by ali973 on Apr 20, 2021 2:02:58 GMT
I think it's slightly weird and invasive to transcribe someone else's emails and then release them to damage their career. I don't support the behaviour of the big "untouchable" producers like Rudin who think they can do what they like, but I don't want to shoot down those who perhaps got their careers because of him and are caught in an awkward place. Rob Roth email shows that he enables harmful, violent and abusive behavior. Anyone who approves of this behavior is a danger to his own team, should not be in a leadership position, and must be stopped. Whoever leaked this, I understand part of the industry, protected their colleagues who could have been harmed by Rob's tolerance for abuse.
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Post by sph on Apr 20, 2021 16:46:37 GMT
Yes, and of course I don't agree with allowing that behaviour. I just don't like this digging-up-dirt society we've become where everyone jumps out and goes "GOTCHA! YOU'RE CANCELLED!"
Although maybe that's the way to get rid of these larger problems, who knows? It just seems like Roth might be shouldering a burden that should lie with Rudin.
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Post by stompboy on Apr 21, 2021 7:00:33 GMT
It just seems like Roth might be shouldering a burden that should lie with Rudin. Personally, I don't think he is 'shouldering' anything for anyone - he is as 'guilty' as Rudin... he was clearly caught out agreeing and defending someone (a buddy, no doubt!) on their disgusting attitudes and actions... he is totally complicit with this written acknowledgement and acceptance. If you lie down with the dirty dog, you're gonna catch fleas!
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Post by Boob on Apr 21, 2021 8:06:07 GMT
Presumably ingratiating himself with powerful people was the only way he could get work. He can’t direct for toffee.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Apr 21, 2021 19:01:09 GMT
Presumably ingratiating himself with powerful people was the only way he could get work. He can’t direct for toffee. I was going to say- what exactly has he done? He’s hardly an A list Broadway director. Or even B List.
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Post by princeton on Apr 21, 2021 22:27:37 GMT
He was basically a Disney in-house theme park director who struck lucky (though to hear him tell the story he was the driving force behind Disney deciding to produce on Broadway) and essentially stuck an extended theme park show on the New York stage (the set designer and choreographer were part of the resident theme park team). He was dropped from Aida after the out of town tryout (when it was called Elaborate Lives) and had one more Broadway show with Lestat, which ran for about two months. He's made a lot of money from being in the right place at the right time - rather than having any particular artistic vision. Why else would he have been returning to the same show 25 years later in what is almost certain to be a copy cat revival - I'd guess it's because he can't do anything else (other than criticise Tony award winning actresses and suck up to bully-boy producers).
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Post by firefingers on Apr 22, 2021 13:10:56 GMT
Reminds me of the time they got someone from Disney to sort out the Millennium Dome opening and it turned out to be someone who organised the car parks at Disneyland Paris.Sorry can't remember his name. Not quite right. Py Gerbeau was Vice-President of Park Operations and Attractions for Euro-Disney having worked his way up through the company after the park's dodgy start (and there are hours of documentaries talking about why Euro-Disney was flawed from day one). In fact, it was Py who was credited as really turning around the Euro-Disney, hence why he was hired as a replacement to the original chief executive in charge of the Millenium Dome after they was chucked due to opening fiasco and dodgy numbers.
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Post by sph on Apr 22, 2021 16:09:37 GMT
I do think the original Beauty and the Beast really "hit the mark" in terms on putting an animated movie on stage. It seemed to tweek the story just enough, expand the scenes and characters just enough, and incorporate just the right set and costume designs.
With a new director now coming on board it'll be interesting to see which way it goes. Also, as this production is conceived as a tour rather than a sit-down west end production, I don't expect the enormous "castle" sets of the original. But it still has a Disney budget, so I'm intrigued.
I think Disney's biggest missed opportunity so far has been The Little Mermaid. That one never quite found its feet (fins?), but if they had gone with a more straightforward adaptation like they did with Beauty and the Beast, rather than trying to reinvent it too much, I think it could have worked.
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Post by iamamazing on Apr 22, 2021 17:03:19 GMT
I wonder if mermaid will come over after the remake comes out
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Post by Being Alive on Apr 22, 2021 17:44:15 GMT
I wonder if mermaid will come over after the remake comes out That show is long dead.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 17:53:03 GMT
It’s still very much revered and performed by youth and amateur groups from what I understand.
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