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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 25, 2020 20:08:09 GMT
They’re bloody annoying..
Cassie in A Chorus Line? Dr Dillamond in Wicked? Cosette in Les Mis?
Let rip...
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Post by kimbahorel on May 25, 2020 21:31:10 GMT
Phantom he is a predator for a start and to be honest I am not keen on Raoul. I have some of my fave (and well not currently but as it stood) played or covered Raoul (West End and Tour). So I def just don't like the characters that much.
Also Chris in Miss Saigon everyone hates Ellen but I feel sorry for her.
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Post by stagebyte on May 25, 2020 22:15:35 GMT
King George in Hamilton practically chews the scenery. Only songs I skip in Hamilton at the sheer memory of it. Gavroche with his mockney cockney and little Cosette with the excruciating RP caaaaastle on a cloud. Similarly Matilda with her clipped Ts and Ds sooo annoying Lauren - Kinky boots - toe curling awkwardness but for the audience
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Post by cheesy116 on May 25, 2020 22:24:07 GMT
Ellen in Miss Saigon, right at the top of my list.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 26, 2020 8:44:26 GMT
Eliza’s father in My Fair Lady. I’ve only seen the film but every time he comes into the story, which is far too often, he kills its stone dead.
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Post by zak97 on May 26, 2020 9:13:19 GMT
Kim - Miss Saigon
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 9:21:43 GMT
The most famous one of all - The Phantom.
I have never been able to get past the fact that he's a murderer.
Much preferred his more mellow self in the first iteration of Love Never Dies (helped by Ramin's muscles, voice and general fancyability) and was a shame when ALW bowed to peer pressure and advice from Uncle Bill and nastied him up again.
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Post by crabtree on May 26, 2020 9:32:50 GMT
The 'Maid' in La Cage.
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Post by crabtree on May 26, 2020 9:33:35 GMT
Actually, I'd add Dolly Levi.....controversial?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 9:51:37 GMT
To be honest I dislike both the Phantom and Christine - the only thing that saves that musical for me is the music (and even then, I’m only a fan of the music from act one). The Phantom is a murdering psychopath and Christine is an utter wet blanket.
Not a fan of the Engineer in Miss Saigon either - he treats the girls horribly and yet somehow we are supposed to warm to him enough to warrant giving him the big 11 o’clock number?
Jane and Michael Banks - I’m with Katie Nanna: utter brats.
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Post by sleepflower on May 26, 2020 9:53:19 GMT
Marius is a major drip...reminds me of how annoying people get when they're 'in love'!
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Post by daisy24601 on May 26, 2020 10:32:17 GMT
Cosette and Marius are so wet, I always zone out a bit when they're on. At least Marius gets a redeeming moment with Empty Chairs.
I've only seen Waitress once but found Dawn very irritating.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 26, 2020 10:37:39 GMT
Marius is a major drip...reminds me of how annoying people get when they're 'in love'! Hmmm yes. Joe Gillis turns unto a wet lettuce when he finally gets into Betty Schaefer.
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Post by partytentdown on May 26, 2020 10:41:15 GMT
Nicola in Kinky Boots Maureen in Rent Jamie and Kathy in The Last Five Years
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Post by anthony40 on May 26, 2020 10:43:31 GMT
George in Aspects of Love
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Post by anthony40 on May 26, 2020 10:44:46 GMT
Eliza’s father in My Fair Lady. I’ve only seen the film but every time he comes into the story, which is far too often, he kills its stone dead. Yeah but he's there to remind the audience where Eliza has come from and how far she has come.
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Post by TallPaul on May 26, 2020 10:50:06 GMT
Eliza’s father in My Fair Lady. I’ve only seen the film but every time he comes into the story, which is far too often, he kills its stone dead. Yeah but he's there to remind the audience where Eliza has come from and how far she has come. Let's give the poor chap his proper name, shall we - Alfred Dolittle. Maybe it's Stanley Holloway's portrayal you can't stand, BurlyBeaR?
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Post by originalconceptlive on May 26, 2020 11:01:50 GMT
Flounder in The Little Mermaid. I read the libretto recently via www.mtishows.com/news/tag/free-read, and he pretty much only exists to unconvincingly let slip secrets to other characters and thereby creakily move the plot along.
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Post by David J on May 26, 2020 11:03:52 GMT
I can't stand all the adult cats who despise Grizabella (the young ones at least want to approach her) for the vaguest of reasons.
Sure, it is the flaw of the musical that nothing is explained well but we're talking about the majority of the cats we're following for the whole musical and how am I supposed to relate to them when I don't get why they hate Grizabella.
Is it because she left? What does glamour cat mean exactly? Why is that a terrible thing for cats? Does it mean she likes to be glamorous and is proud of it? - says the cats who act high and mighty most of the time
If the musical is going to make a song and dance about Grizabella at least explain! Does the film explain?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 11:27:01 GMT
Cosette and Marius are so wet, I always zone out a bit when they're on. At least Marius gets a redeeming moment with Empty Chairs. I've only seen Waitress once but found Dawn very irritating. agree on Marius and Cosette. I found all the characters in Waitress very irritating, the doctor especially.
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Post by the_f_g_p on May 26, 2020 12:53:32 GMT
Second this! George in Aspects of Love
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Post by danb on May 26, 2020 13:11:39 GMT
Yeah but he's there to remind the audience where Eliza has come from and how far she has come. Let's give the poor chap his proper name, shall we - Alfred Dolittle. Maybe it's Stanley Holloway's portrayal you can't stand, BurlyBeaR? Well, I couldn’t take to Dennis Waterman's Alfred at the NT either.
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Post by TallPaul on May 26, 2020 13:34:32 GMT
Let's give the poor chap his proper name, shall we - Alfred Dolittle. Maybe it's Stanley Holloway's portrayal you can't stand, BurlyBeaR? Well, I couldn’t take to Dennis Waterman's Alfred at the NT either. No, I know what you mean. When I saw him at Drury Lane, I kept thinking, "That's Minder, that is." 🙂
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Post by johartuk on May 26, 2020 14:42:39 GMT
I can't stand all the adult cats who despise Grizabella (the young ones at least want to approach her) for the vaguest of reasons. Sure, it is the flaw of the musical that nothing is explained well but we're talking about the majority of the cats we're following for the whole musical and how am I supposed to relate to them when I don't get why they hate Grizabella. Is it because she left? What does glamour cat mean exactly? Why is that a terrible thing for cats? Does it mean she likes to be glamorous and is proud of it? - says the cats who act high and mighty most of the time If the musical is going to make a song and dance about Grizabella at least explain! Does the film explain? Yes, that one confuses me. I thought maybe it was because all the other cats have humans and homes, even Gus and Skimbleshanks, who live in a theatre and a railway station/line respectively. Grizabella seems to be a stray. Other than that, I have no idea what she's done to offend the other cats.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 14:59:14 GMT
Cosette is awful, she's just such a drip. Although once I did see a Cosette I really liked - she got really cross with Valjean at one point and stamped at him, and seemed much more human.
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