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Post by itsemily on Jul 21, 2019 16:28:39 GMT
And Growltiger (including Billy McCaw) was always my favourite part of the show. Me too! Love the DVD but always miss that part! |
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Post by Rozzi Rainbow on Jul 21, 2019 19:58:50 GMT
I liked the trailer. Cats isn't my favourite show - I find it more of a concept piece than a musical, but I love the music and the dancing, both of which I feel came across well in the trailer. I think for anyone who's not seen the stage show (in general, not necessarily on this forum) it would seem very strange, but to me it is the stage show just outside on the street. I think it might struggle to appeal to non-theatre-goers, as the trailer doesn't really suggest a storyline - although, even having seen the stage show I'd struggle to explain the storyline! I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 21, 2019 20:30:04 GMT
Movies lie about their budget to make themselves sound more impressive all the time, so any figure in the press should be taken with a pinch of salt. It’s doubtless a very expensive film to make, though. Do you know if they ever “tell the truth” about the budget or is it always an inside secret? I always go by Wikipedia or Mojo or the like but who knows? The reason we know movies lie about budget is because they have to submit proper accounts when applying for tax credits from the U.K. government, and some other governments with tax credit schemes. Interesting article about it here: stephenfollows.com/do-filmmakers-lie-about-their-budgets/Everyone will still go with the declared budget from the studio, though - it takes quite some time for those accounts to come to light. Plus the movie press industry is about entertainment, not investigative journalism, and ‘Hollywood accounting’ being nonsense is an open enough secret - everyone knows that the studios aren’t honest about this stuff. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 22, 2019 16:16:55 GMT
Why don't they just chuck in some clowns to exacerbate the nightmare siituion? Ooh, maybe ALW could write an extra original song for the show, "chuck in the clowns" or something like that? Write? Don't you mean plagerise?! |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 24, 2019 8:38:27 GMT
Louis Wain biopic from the writer/director of Ch4's excellent Flowers just about to start filming with Cumberbatch and Claire Foy so maybe anthropomorphised cats will be next years' unicorns-and-rainbows (please god).
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Post by stuartmcd on Jul 27, 2019 21:44:52 GMT
Interesting video on the VFX in the movie
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Post by vabbian on Jul 27, 2019 22:43:09 GMT
I think the majority of criticism for the trailer comes from people who've never seen Cats
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Post by d'James on Jul 27, 2019 23:41:03 GMT
I think the majority of criticism for the trailer comes from people who've never seen Cats I don’t. |
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Post by drowseychap on Jul 28, 2019 1:29:23 GMT
Watched it on you tube and wasn’t keen but then saw trailer on the big screen at odeon .... and it all seemed to make sense really liked it
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Post by showtoones on Jul 28, 2019 1:52:54 GMT
I think I need to see it for the camp factor...look we all could love it. Who know?!?
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Post by shady23 on Jul 28, 2019 5:10:12 GMT
Watched it on you tube and wasn’t keen but then saw trailer on the big screen at odeon .... and it all seemed to make sense really liked it Also saw it on the big screen screen and lots around me were saying they wanted to see it. Certainly didn't look as bad as I had expected from this thread. Dislaimer: it is by far my least favourite musical) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 7:35:22 GMT
I expect the experience of watching the entire film will be very different from watching the trailer because the audience will be immersed in that world instead of watching second-long clips. Traditional painted-cel animation looks weird considered in isolation: the proportions are wrong, colours come in flat blocks, all movement comes in a narrow range of middling speeds, and anything that isn't the centre of attention turns into a statue, but you don't register the strangeness because the whole world is like that and nothing feels out of place.
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Post by musicalmarge on Jul 28, 2019 12:44:44 GMT
I think the majority of criticism for the trailer comes from people who've never seen Cats I don’t. I don’t either |
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Post by fiyero on Jul 28, 2019 17:33:56 GMT
Watched it on you tube and wasn’t keen but then saw trailer on the big screen at odeon .... and it all seemed to make sense really liked it Also saw it on the big screen screen and lots around me were saying they wanted to see it. Certainly didn't look as bad as I had expected from this thread. Dislaimer: it is by far my least favourite musical) I agree. I loved seeing the trailer before The Lion King. I think they were ever going to win with this, use 'real' cats and that would be wrong like some of the critiscim The Lion King has got, filming of the stage version has already been done and normal humans would be wrong. |
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Post by chernjam on Jul 28, 2019 18:12:08 GMT
Watched it on you tube and wasn’t keen but then saw trailer on the big screen at odeon .... and it all seemed to make sense really liked it Also saw it on the big screen screen and lots around me were saying they wanted to see it. Certainly didn't look as bad as I had expected from this thread. Dislaimer: it is by far my least favourite musical) This has been my hunch from the get-go. The fact that there was this "negative reaction" is not going to deter anyone from going to see it - if anything, it raised people's attention to the fact that this is coming out. Most people aren't on theatre boards parsing and critiquing every aspect of every thing (like we like to do) so they might have not even known Cats was being made into a film - saw the preview with the cast and thought "oh that's interesting". And the vast majority of people who went to see Cats on Broadway, on the West End or around the world for decades don't care that some theatre snobs think it's "the worst musical". It's far from my favorite ALW musical - I don't remember the last time I even listened to the recording, but will most definitely be there when it opens. And I'm betting, so will a lot of other people. Will it topple Star Wars? No. Will it make back it's money and then some? I'm sure that it will |
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Post by xanady on Jul 28, 2019 18:55:25 GMT
Lucky to take my daughter as a tiny little thing on stage in the interval of CATS to meet Old Deuteronomy.Her love of musical theatre began with this show.We were front stalls and the cast came into the audience and one of them sat on the arm of her seat in The Naming Of Cats and serenaded her.What a Memory!
Many years earlier I was blessed to see the original at the New London on the revolve with a group of amazed students who loved every second of this.
There are fans of CATS worldwide and couple this with the massive Taylor Swift fan-base and the world-famous song,’MEMORY’, and this could be as big as Showman....or not...we shall see?The Theatreboard posters will not decide its fate.Also,trailers are meant to generate interest......result!
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Post by Fleance on Jul 29, 2019 1:03:05 GMT
Back to the Growltiger discussion for a moment: I've just listened to the segment -- my favorite in the show. I'm afraid that the reason the Growltiger/Billy M'Caw segment may not be used much these days is that it's NOT PC (although it may be favored in certain circles):
"But most to cats of foreign race his hatred had been vowed
To cats of foreign name and race, no quarter was allowed..."
and later in the segment:
"Then Genghis gave the signal to his fierce Mongolian hordes
Abandoning their sampans, the chinks they swarmed aboard..."
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Post by tom on Jul 29, 2019 6:39:21 GMT
Back to the Growltiger discussion for a moment: I've just listened to the segment -- my favorite in the show. I'm afraid that the reason the Growltiger/Billy M'Caw segment may not be used much these days is that it's NOT PC (although it may be favored in certain circles): "But most to cats of foreign race his hatred had been vowed
To cats of foreign name and race, no quarter was allowed..."and later in the segment: "Then Genghis gave the signal to his fierce Mongolian hordes
Abandoning their sampans, the chinks they swarmed aboard..."They have changed the lyrics since so it isn’t as bad. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 15:28:18 GMT
Interesting video on the VFX in the movie Just watched this, fascinating. Thanks for sharing that. So it sounds like Taylor Swift was just wrong when she said no motion-capture was used. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 19:38:12 GMT
Was hoping the CD might have appeared with a release date on Amazon by now.
Mainly as I would like to see the track listing.
Anyway, not long to go now....
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Post by djp on Oct 6, 2019 20:08:29 GMT
Back to the Growltiger discussion for a moment: I've just listened to the segment -- my favorite in the show. I'm afraid that the reason the Growltiger/Billy M'Caw segment may not be used much these days is that it's NOT PC (although it may be favored in certain circles): "But most to cats of foreign race his hatred had been vowed
To cats of foreign name and race, no quarter was allowed..."and later in the segment: "Then Genghis gave the signal to his fierce Mongolian hordes
Abandoning their sampans, the chinks they swarmed aboard..."Given the world is still formed up mostly in nation states and there's currently a very high level of conflict between many of them, and specific groups attacking them, with some humdinger major wars on the verge of breaking out, the viewers would have to be ridiculously naive and out of contact with reality, to imagine that conflict had vanished or was fought out otherwise. The second quote is clearly a reference to Genghis Khan who indeed led a Mongol horde , who were indeed fierce- unless modern history teaches they were peace loving misunderstood pony riders who just went roaming over all Asia .. The only objectionable word is chinks- and its easily replaced by Chinese, or if they want to be neutral and not offend a big market, you can replace it with a whole range of words from crew to invaders , or none . |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 10:24:11 GMT
Was hoping the CD might have appeared with a release date on Amazon by now. Mainly as I would like to see the track listing. Anyway, not long to go now.... Track listing is on the Cats IMDb page |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 10:34:05 GMT
Was hoping the CD might have appeared with a release date on Amazon by now. Mainly as I would like to see the track listing. Anyway, not long to go now.... Track listing is on the Cats IMDb page Thanks. Just looked! So pretty much identical to the stage show :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 11:00:39 GMT
Bearing in mind that the IMDb publishes information provided by members of the public, so that could easily be a "helpful" random person who's just copied the song list from the stage show and pasted it for the movie without actually having the insider knowledge that would render their song list legitimate.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 11:49:01 GMT
Bearing in mind that the IMDb publishes information provided by members of the public, so that could easily be a "helpful" random person who's just copied the song list from the stage show and pasted it for the movie without actually having the insider knowledge that would render their song list legitimate. OK that sounds more likely - slightly suspicious that it's IDENTICAL! |
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