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Post by duncan on Jul 19, 2019 14:35:33 GMT
Also, I had no idea there are so many CGI experts/producers/art directors on this forum. It's humbling to breathe the same ether. No need to be rude dear, just because some people DO take an interest in those things and DO have a little knowledge, it doesn’t call for you to be like that Well said. |
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Post by duncan on Jul 19, 2019 14:41:05 GMT
Start Wars is arguably gonna be the biggest film of this year (obviously Avengers came out too). Both are kids films and it’s JUST before Xmas so can’t see parents taking kids to both. Also Star Wars movie is literally the end of a saga. Which matters if you're a Star Wars fan, obviously. My life has been poorer for not seeing any if the films, I'm sure, but I'd rather see Cats... and I NEVER imagined saying that EVER! I'm sure Disney won't lose any sleep over an online critic not seeing any of their films. |
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Post by ceebee on Jul 19, 2019 14:58:20 GMT
Which matters if you're a Star Wars fan, obviously. My life has been poorer for not seeing any if the films, I'm sure, but I'd rather see Cats... and I NEVER imagined saying that EVER! I'm sure Disney won't lose any sleep over an online critic not seeing any of their films. 'Online critic' is somewhat generous and stagey. Back in your box dude. |
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 19, 2019 15:03:09 GMT
I haven't seen twitter this united since the day the llamas got loose, which was also "what color is this dress?" day.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 19, 2019 15:18:34 GMT
I don't mind the trailer - yes the scaling is weird but the musical was always going to look a bit werid due to the nature of the show. Excited to see the whole film.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 19, 2019 16:28:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 17:51:03 GMT
I'm surprised at quite how many people are bashing the trailer and I think there's a certain amount of bandwagoning going on. After all, it's not as if a bunch of people who had never heard of film or theatre before stumbled across a mention of the entertainment industry and thought "Gee, that sounds fun. We should give it a go." With all the celebrity casting it was always going to be less than it could have been, but they'd never have got the funding if nobody involved knew what they were doing.
I suspect that in the end the reactions are going to be similar to the Joseph thread, and progress from "worst thing ever" to "not a total disaster" to "ok I guess" to "actually pretty enjoyable".
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Post by Marwood on Jul 19, 2019 19:14:56 GMT
Never mind Judi Dench in a fur coat - why is there no sign of Ray Winstone in that trailer? The whole thing looks dreadful to be honest, but the thought of Raymond singing and then dropping a few choice F and C bombs might just make it worth seeing (when copies show up in Poundland that is)
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Post by horton on Jul 19, 2019 19:27:51 GMT
Why is it that certain participants here are so averse to people expressing their dislike of shows/ performers/ movies etc?
The more I watch this trailer to see if I have missed the things some people are reporting adoring, the more it makes me think of The Island of Dr Moreau!
Please note I haven't called anyone mindless zealots for liking it. I haven't suggested they are jumping on a bandwagon because it's likely to be commercially successful. I haven't snarkily suggested they must be experts in CGI for liking the art direction on show here.
In my opinion, what has been presented- which as a trailer exists to provoke reactions- is as mis-conceived as the dreadful Les Mis film and utterly dreadful Phantom movie.
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Post by musicalmarge on Jul 19, 2019 19:40:11 GMT
People - the public have a right to say what is great and what is not! Many movies and musicals are wonderful and pure joy. Some are ill conceived and simply terrible. I worry this is the latter!!
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Post by digipal on Jul 19, 2019 20:16:32 GMT
So I saw the trailer last night, hadn't seen any comments prior and I have to be honest and say, I didn't like it, that's just my opinion. I'm not jumping on any bandwagon
In five months time when it hits the cinema I'll probably go and see it, I'm just not sure I'm feeling this artistic direction for now
I heard a movie critic on the radio tonight talking about Cats who was refreshingly candid saying "hey, what do we know, The Greatest Showman and Bohemian Rhapsody has proved the public decides whats a winner not a few people watching a movie for free in a private screening" ... or it was something to that effect
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Post by ceebee on Jul 19, 2019 20:19:32 GMT
Why is it that certain participants here are so averse to people expressing their dislike of shows/ performers/ movies etc? The more I watch this trailer to see if I have missed the things some people are reporting adoring, the more it makes me think of The Island of Dr Moreau! Please note I haven't called anyone mindless zealots for liking it. I haven't suggested they are jumping on a bandwagon because it's likely to be commercially successful. I haven't snarkily suggested they must be experts in CGI for liking the art direction on show here. In my opinion, what has been presented- which as a trailer exists to provoke reactions- is as mis-conceived as the dreadful Les Mis film and utterly dreadful Phantom movie. In your view... |
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Post by daisy24601 on Jul 19, 2019 20:28:32 GMT
I couldn't make it through the trailer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 20:49:27 GMT
Wowers - according to the guardian (so please take with a big mouthful of salt) this set Universal back £230,000,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by AddisonMizner on Jul 19, 2019 20:55:46 GMT
I don’t really see what everyone’s problem is with the trailer - it doesn’t look half as bad as I expected.
I am no fan of Cats, but will see this out of interest.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 20:58:59 GMT
(If true) that means they will have to make just shy of £500,000,000 to break even. Why oh why oh why are they pitting it against Star Wars!  !?? |
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Post by ceebee on Jul 19, 2019 21:33:31 GMT
(If true) that means they will have to make just shy of £500,000,000 to break even. Why oh why oh why are they pitting it against Star Wars! !??It'll def make $500m over lifespan. Doubt 230m budget though. |
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Post by cheesy116 on Jul 19, 2019 21:42:17 GMT
I must be one of the few that thinks it looks pretty good from the trailer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 21:42:59 GMT
(If true) that means they will have to make just shy of £500,000,000 to break even. Why oh why oh why are they pitting it against Star Wars! !??It'll def make $500m over lifespan. Doubt 230m budget though. What makes you think that (genuine question, you have said you have worked within movie CGI so you obviously have knowledge)? |
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Post by dippy on Jul 19, 2019 21:51:58 GMT
I very highly doubt it had that budget too, I mean massive massive action films have that kind of budget but not a Working Title musical. Working Title are not known for splashing money around in ways they don't need to.
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Post by ceebee on Jul 19, 2019 21:52:30 GMT
It'll def make $500m over lifespan. Doubt 230m budget though. What makes you think that (genuine question, you have said you have worked within movie CGI so you obviously have knowledge)? It'll make the money because of its familiarity, longevity and demographic reach. I doubt the budget for two reasons: (1) The Guardian is the source for the figure (2) I think 130m would be overpriced tbh but there are some big-name performers and producers on board, so never say never. When I did it we had units/labour in cheaper markets and it was in its infancy compared to today. It was also independent rather than big studio. The money went on the voiceover talents. |
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Post by kathryn on Jul 19, 2019 21:55:38 GMT
Movies lie about their budget to make themselves sound more impressive all the time, so any figure in the press should be taken with a pinch of salt. It’s doubtless a very expensive film to make, though.
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Post by crowblack on Jul 19, 2019 21:55:54 GMT
Just seen an animator / illustrator I follow on Twitter comment that this could have been great done as a Fantasia-style animated film, with lots of different animation styles.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 22:11:20 GMT
Movies lie about their budget to make themselves sound more impressive all the time, so any figure in the press should be taken with a pinch of salt. It’s doubtless a very expensive film to make, though. Do you know if they ever “tell the truth” about the budget or is it always an inside secret? I always go by Wikipedia or Mojo or the like but who knows? I always find the financial side of things super interesting. I mean, to me, how do they ever think they will get the best profit they can if they pit it against the biggest/2nd biggest film of the year? Put it back 3 weeks and (IMO) they will make more money as they will be the biggest film of that week! obviously, they know what they are doing, I’m just an amateur enthusiast |
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Post by d'James on Jul 19, 2019 22:24:56 GMT
I think everyone who goes to see this should take a cat. It would be awesome. Nah my cat would be creeped out. |
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