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Post by Boob on Jun 21, 2022 17:59:50 GMT
The less said about MF's speech and attempt at singing the better. The casting of the two male leads could of been much stronger, here they gave serviceable performances. Generally really liked it. Didn't know what to expect from Carrie (as never seen her before and I've read she's the anti Christ) but thought she was great. Also, loved Laura PP. Thought the person who played Brenda was brilliant. The show has such an amazing score and I'd love to see another production of it. Totally agree, Brenda felt as if she’d walked in straight from a professional production of the show. Couldn’t take my eyes off her, and she nailed the comedy. I did not love a lot of the lyric and book changes, most of which were weaker than the original. But I still had a fun time. Big big shout out to the band, who I thought sounded terrific. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 21, 2022 18:10:08 GMT
Maria looks like she stumbled in from the accounts department looking for someone to sign off the expenses claims. Maybe she did!
That costume Carrie is in is terrible too. Were they actually costumed?
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Jun 21, 2022 18:21:08 GMT
There were a lot of you lot in last night! Should have had a board meet! I had to request a refund - as logistics meant this weekend was the only time to escape London for family plans this week because of the absurd RMT strikes. I'm glad everyone had a lovely time - really hope a full scale production gets mounted. To echo what's been said; I read the 'bitches' line as Daryl being frustrated at the situation not misogyny... |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 21, 2022 18:28:50 GMT
From what I remember from the film the three of them do a total number on him and revel in their success at doing so. Given that he’s supposedly the devil what do we expect the character to call them in those circumstances? “Hun”? “Babe”?
How are we even talking about the use of the word “bitch” in context of the story when that abomination of taste “Book Of Mormon” is still in the WE and touring? THAT is misogynistic.
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Post by ceebee on Jun 21, 2022 19:05:58 GMT
From what I remember from the film the three of them do a total number on him and revel in their success at doing so. Given that he’s supposedly the devil what do we expect the character to call them in those circumstances? “Hun”? “Babe”? How are we even talking about the use of the word “bitch” in context of the story when that abomination of taste Book Of Mormon is still in the WE and touring? I think its valid, as John Partridge delivered it with an element of menace as affronted at being outwitted by women, whereas Ian McShane snarled it as a "oh well, you win some you lose some". JPs intonation was more sinister and could have been interpreted as misogynistic. |
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Post by danb on Jun 21, 2022 19:06:35 GMT
I remember getting pulled up by my English lecturer at uni during a presentation and used the phrase ‘archetypal bitch’ when talking about a Joan Collins type character in whatever we were reading. She wasn’t happy with a twenty year old male using the word or it’s meaning even with ‘archetypal’ before it to give it some context. As a result it just isn’t a word I’m comfortable using any more.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 21, 2022 19:10:09 GMT
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Post by partytentdown on Jun 21, 2022 19:19:53 GMT
Ultimately, he's the devil, and therefore not a very nice chap, so I guess he could use worse language if he fancied.
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Post by karloscar on Jun 21, 2022 21:25:45 GMT
Flying in a short frock? Not a great look on anyone, except maybe Tinkerbell..
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Post by Boob on Jun 21, 2022 22:46:43 GMT
Maria looks like she stumbled in from the accounts department looking for someone to sign off the expenses claims. Maybe she did! That costume Carrie is in is terrible too. Were they actually costumed? It felt like a “bring your own” type affair. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 22, 2022 4:51:05 GMT
Flying in a short frock? Not a great look on anyone, except maybe Tinkerbell..  |
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Post by ceebee on Jun 22, 2022 7:04:14 GMT
Flying in a short frock? Not a great look on anyone, except maybe Tinkerbell.. I thought they all looked fabulous. |
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jun 22, 2022 8:49:19 GMT
If I didn't know they were singing, I'd say they'd just realised how high up they were and weren't very happy about it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2022 9:10:31 GMT
Well I truly adored Monday night! Any concerns I had were quickly dispersed. Yes it wasn't "My" Eastwick that I remember loving, but it was close enough for a fabulous evening. Personally I feel people's comments about Maria were unjust, but again that is my opinion, doesn't make me right, just how I felt. I was NOT looking forward to seeing CFH but you know what, she was fantastic, I thought she absolutely shone in the role and I thoroughly enjoyed watching her. I felt that out of the three witches, Natasha was the weakest, only in the sense she the character of Alex just wasn't there. But again still fun to watch! There was only one thing that jarred with the rest of the production for me, and that was Janes (quite literal) "release". I thought to start with they were going to do it with all the women, especially as there appeared to be a bag of water hanging off of the back of one of the benches. Just seemed a bit "too" much for my innocent little mind  |
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Jun 22, 2022 10:53:30 GMT
Well I truly adored Monday night! Any concerns I had were quickly dispersed. Yes it wasn't "My" Eastwick that I remember loving, but it was close enough for a fabulous evening. Personally I feel people's comments about Maria were unjust, but again that is my opinion, doesn't make me right, just how I felt. I was NOT looking forward to seeing CFH but you know what, she was fantastic, I thought she absolutely shone in the role and I thoroughly enjoyed watching her. I felt that out of the three witches, Natasha was the weakest, only in the sense she the character of Alex just wasn't there. But again still fun to watch! There was only one thing that jarred with the rest of the production for me, and that was Janes (quite literal) "release". I thought to start with they were going to do it with all the women, especially as there appeared to be a bag of water hanging off of the back of one of the benches. Just seemed a bit "too" much for my innocent little mind  I suppose Natasha was not attached to the project for long as she did replace Danielle Steers ^ Glad you enjoyed. |
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Post by Boob on Jun 22, 2022 12:39:49 GMT
The climax (!) to Waiting for the Music… was horrible, creepy and TOTALLY unnecessary!
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Post by Being Alive on Jun 22, 2022 12:57:03 GMT
The climax (!) to Waiting for the Music… was horrible, creepy and TOTALLY unnecessary! But it's always been like that, that's not new. And it's how Jane's character shifts - I think it's great! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2022 13:24:13 GMT
The climax (!) to Waiting for the Music… was horrible, creepy and TOTALLY unnecessary! But it's always been like that, that's not new. And it's how Jane's character shifts - I think it's great! I personally haven't ever seen it staged before where they rig water to squirt from between her legs at the climax of the song? |
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Post by Steve on Jun 22, 2022 13:25:52 GMT
quote author=" mrbarnaby" source="/post/431076/thread" timestamp="1655762508"] My my, you are giddy with delight ! Your words spring forth like a new born foal chasing a butterfly in the dappled light of summer[/quote] That made me laugh out loud!  Yes, during the interval, I was excited that, against all odds, this turned out to be, for me, one of the most entertaining nights of the year!  As it happens, I felt exactly the same when the show ended, and was ready to leap in with a 5 star appraisal of the evening, when I realised, that because the show had finished before 10pm, I could pounce onto ITV Hub, put on ITV2 live, click the "Watch from the start" button and watch the sequel to "The Witches of Eastwick," "Love Island" on the train all the way home! Ekin-su is about as popular as Felicia lol! And I must say, I loved Claire Moore's Felicia's rendition of "Evil," with her hair done by Boris Johnson's hairdresser, looking like the Bride of Frankenstein! Felicia may be repressed, but Claire Moore's increasingly building frenzy had a manic hysterical shrieking climax of "EVIL!" that brought the house down lol! Brenda (I didn't buy the programme, so I apologise for not knowing who played her), as has been noted here, managed a similar gleefully ecstatic attachment to gossip, that was as amusing as it was thrilling to watch. Same again for Nathan Amzi's Clyde, who during both "Who's the Man" and "Dance with the Devil," principally performed by an aggressively pumped-up wild and crazy Partridge, gave off serious Dewey-Finn-discovering-rock-and-roll-for-the-first-time vibes. Someone earlier in the thread described these performances as "OTT," and they really were! In a delightful way. In an infectious way. In a way that made the audience elated again and again and again! Felicia, Brenda, Clyde, the Witches themselves, Partridge, all had such a performative ball I was either laughing or smiling the entire time. And I think this is what playing Sukie taught Friedman: that the emotion of "letting go," of infectious frenzy, is really what this piece is all about! Because let's face it: the book is unreadably vulgar and tedious; the movie seems about to climax but just goes into reverse before the real fun begins, and Jack is actually kind of gross: neither of these versions of the story succeeded, in my opinion, as either cathartic release OR cautionary tale. Just stuck in limbo. The musical picks a side: it's about release, empowerment, and Friedman played to that in all her choices. Even her choice to leave out "Loose Ends" was undoubtedly right. In the context of rollercoaster highs each topping themselves, it would have been a sentimental downer. As an encore, it was the opposite of a downer: it was reliving an original; it was two generations of performer sharing the stage performing the same character; it was passing the baton! It was beautiful as an end, as a winding down, if not a loose one, just as "I wish I may" wound our emotions down just before the interval. By the way, the Witches didn't only go up and down twice in the flying sequence. I recall that Jane and Alex flew up without Sukie, then Sukie says her line about not really wanting to fly, then the other two swooped down and pulled her up as well. And then Sukie flew off North Eastwards lol, getting a bit of side action as well as up and down. Still, for me, it was that first winding down moment of "I wish I may," when the Witches come out, when Carrie Hope Fletcher's pristine voice hit peak tenderness that I found myself in tears. A downer before the second half upper! This show was a ball! What a high! 5 stars, of sheer exuberant fun, for me. |
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Post by ceebee on Jun 22, 2022 14:07:09 GMT
quote author=" mrbarnaby" source="/post/431076/thread" timestamp="1655762508"] My my, you are giddy with delight ! Your words spring forth like a new born foal chasing a butterfly in the dappled light of summer That made me laugh out loud! Yes, during the interval, I was excited that, against all odds, this turned out to be, for me, one of the most entertaining nights of the year! As it happens, I felt exactly the same when the show ended, and was ready to leap in with a 5 star appraisal of the evening, when I realised, that because the show had finished before 10pm, I could pounce onto ITV Hub, put on ITV2 live, click the "Watch from the start" button and watch the sequel to "The Witches of Eastwick," "Love Island" on the train all the way home! Ekin-su is about as popular as Felicia lol! And I must say, I loved Claire Moore's Felicia's rendition of "Evil," with her hair done by Boris Johnson's hairdresser, looking like the Bride of Frankenstein! Felicia may be repressed, but Claire Moore's increasingly building frenzy had a manic hysterical shrieking climax of "EVIL!" that brought the house down lol! Brenda (I didn't buy the programme, so I apologise for not knowing who played her), as has been noted here, managed a similar gleefully ecstatic attachment to gossip, that was as amusing as it was thrilling to watch. Same again for Nathan Amzi's Clyde, who during both "Who's the Man" and "Dance with the Devil," principally performed by an aggressively pumped-up wild and crazy Partridge, gave off serious Dewey-Finn-discovering-rock-and-roll-for-the-first-time vibes. Someone earlier in the thread described these performances as "OTT," and they really were! In a delightful way. In an infectious way. In a way that made the audience elated again and again and again! Felicia, Brenda, Clyde, the Witches themselves, Partridge, all had such a performative ball I was either laughing or smiling the entire time. And I think this is what playing Sukie taught Friedman: that the emotion of "letting go," of infectious frenzy, is really what this piece is all about! Because let's face it: the book is unreadably vulgar and tedious; the movie seems about to climax but just goes into reverse before the real fun begins, and Jack is actually kind of gross: neither of these versions of the story succeeded, in my opinion, as either cathartic release OR cautionary tale. Just stuck in limbo. The musical picks a side: it's about release, empowerment, and Friedman played to that in all her choices. Even her choice to leave out "Loose Ends" was undoubtedly right. In the context of rollercoaster highs each topping themselves, it would have been a sentimental downer. As an encore, it was the opposite of a downer: it was reliving an original; it was two generations of performer sharing the stage performing the same character; it was passing the baton! It was beautiful as an end, as a winding down, if not a loose one, just as "I wish I may" wound our emotions down just before the interval. By the way, the Witches didn't only go up and down twice in the flying sequence. I recall that Jane and Alex flew up without Sukie, then Sukie says her line about not really wanting to fly, then the other two swooped down and pulled her up as well. And then Sukie flew off North Eastwards lol, getting a bit of side action as well as up and down. Still, for me, it was that first winding down moment of "I wish I may," when the Witches come out, when Carrie Hope Fletcher's pristine voice hit peak tenderness that I found myself in tears. A downer before the second half upper! This show was a ball! What a high! 5 stars, of sheer exuberant fun, for me. [/quote] Absolutely all of this. A brilliantly well written summary. |
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Post by Being Alive on Jun 22, 2022 14:07:56 GMT
But it's always been like that, that's not new. And it's how Jane's character shifts - I think it's great! I personally haven't ever seen it staged before where they rig water to squirt from between her legs at the climax of the song? OH! I 100% couldnt see that from where I was sitting in the Grand Circle!! In which case...yeah you're very right! |
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Post by stagebyte on Jun 22, 2022 15:04:06 GMT
But it's always been like that, that's not new. And it's how Jane's character shifts - I think it's great! I personally haven't ever seen it staged before where they rig water to squirt from between her legs at the climax of the song? They did what now??? |
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Jun 22, 2022 17:01:26 GMT
I personally haven't ever seen it staged before where they rig water to squirt from between her legs at the climax of the song? They did what now??? ^^^^^^^^^^^ FOR REALZ?  ?? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2022 18:53:24 GMT
I swear ! I even just double checked with the husband to make sure I haven’t imagined it. Definitely happened……
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Post by inthenose on Jun 22, 2022 19:29:03 GMT
Being unfamiliar with the staging of the show, was this meant to be urine, a water breaking or ejaculation? Whichever way, it sounds unique.
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