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Post by stuartmcd on Jul 9, 2021 14:10:23 GMT
Moment of Triumph is just as horrendous as I remembered it. The whole score is. So Long is also unbearable as is the overlong song between the stepmother and queen which has no payoff. All the shows flaws are even more apparent on the recording. The whole Godmother midnight thing makes even less sense. CHF fades into the background in an unlikeable and dramatically barren role. The critics are rightfully going to rip this to shreds. I think the Godmother midnight stuff is way clearer now. |
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Post by lolli on Jul 9, 2021 14:17:51 GMT
Do we think there’s a show next Wednesday 14th July? Nothing currently on sale
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Post by amuseical on Jul 9, 2021 14:21:19 GMT
While many members of this board have pointed out (valid) concerns, just going off audience reactions in the theatre, people seem to be loving the show.
I’m expecting reviews that lean negative, but praise the cast, and for the show to be a financial success in the long run. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
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Post by ceebee on Jul 9, 2021 14:22:51 GMT
Does anyone else think that "I Know You" (the Stepmother-Queen duet) sounds just like "The Countess and the Common Man" from Anastasia? Maybe it's just me... It reminded me of a cross between Dear Old Friend from LND and I Remember It Well, but that's more in lyrics and plot than melody. I knew it reminded me of something - Dear Old Friend! It was bugging me - thanks! |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Jul 9, 2021 14:24:42 GMT
Do we think there’s a show next Wednesday 14th July? Nothing currently on sale It was the original opening night. Now cancelled. |
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Post by ceebee on Jul 9, 2021 14:27:15 GMT
The point you make about the ratings in the poll is entirely redundant, as you know just a few pages back somebody joined on multiple new accounts just to rate the show 5*'s, having admittedly not seen the show, just because they are a ALW fan. But I suspect you were being intentionally tongue in cheek there. I hope. Wasn't aware that somebody had done that. Takes all sorts - not sure I could be bothered to go to that effort, despite liking the show. I'd rather see a poll that reflects true sentiment rather than something that has been manipulated. |
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Post by max on Jul 9, 2021 15:17:20 GMT
I got the hight stakes of Midnight really clearly from the song as recorded (though seeing it discussed here, maybe I was looking out for it). I like the twist - feels like a layer of darkness the Grimm brothers might have gone for (though their foot cutting was admittedly quite full-on already!).
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Post by BoOverall on Jul 9, 2021 15:29:17 GMT
Am looking forward to seeing it next Sat eve. Emailed LW theatres to check our booking is still as booked or if we have been moved to a later performance (as was the case with Phantom). So a foodie afternoon followed by a show….I can’t wait for that combo at last! Bettered only by a two show day (with fab meal in between!). Now if I can just fit in In The Heights at the cinema early afternoon……
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jul 9, 2021 15:43:22 GMT
Wasn't aware that somebody had done that. Takes all sorts - not sure I could be bothered to go to that effort, despite liking the show. I'd rather see a poll that reflects true sentiment rather than something that has been manipulated. I tend to cancel out the 5s and 1s against each other, presuming there's been a bit of exaggeration both ways! (I know that some shows are legitimately 5*/1*, but in that case the 5*s/1*s would massively outweigh the 1*s/5*s). |
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Jul 9, 2021 15:48:46 GMT
Moment of Triumph is just as horrendous as I remembered it. The whole score is. So Long is also unbearable as is the overlong song between the stepmother and queen which has no payoff. All the shows flaws are even more apparent on the recording. The whole Godmother midnight thing makes even less sense. CHF fades into the background in an unlikeable and dramatically barren role. The critics are rightfully going to rip this to shreds. I think the Godmother midnight stuff is way clearer now. I think it's clear that she's warning her this will get uncomfortable by midnight. What isn't clear is why. And ultimately it doesn't even affect anything because (for those who have seen it...) {Spoiler - click to view} the real stakes in the lead up to midnight as a deadline focus on the announcement of the prince's bride. At midnight, he will be betrothed. That's her cutoff point. That's what we're focused on. Then when the clock strikes twelve it all becomes rather jumbled and messy - the Prince and the stepsister literally take center stage, with Cinderella stood to the side, and her ripping of her wig and outfit reads like a direct reaction to seeing him kissing her stepsister. It doesn't really connect to the Godmother's warning earlier on at all, and simply looks as if she's having a tantrum  |
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Post by stuartmcd on Jul 9, 2021 15:54:42 GMT
I think the Godmother midnight stuff is way clearer now. I think it's clear that she's warning her this will get uncomfortable by midnight. What isn't clear is why. And ultimately it doesn't even affect anything because (for those who have seen it...) {Spoiler - click to view} the real stakes in the lead up to midnight as a deadline focus on the announcement of the prince's bride. At midnight, he will be betrothed. That's her cutoff point. That's what we're focused on. Then when the clock strikes twelve it all becomes rather jumbled and messy - the Prince and the stepsister literally take center stage, with Cinderella stood to the side, and her ripping of her wig and outfit reads like a direct reaction to seeing him kissing her stepsister. It doesn't really connect to the Godmother's warning earlier on at all, and simply looks as if she's having a tantrum Oh yeah don’t get me wrong I agree and one of the things I’ve said previously is that I think the whole ball sequence is quite messy and not focused enough. But I think now I’ve been able to read the lyrics the midnight stuff now makes more sense to me. It’s just then not executed particularly well when it happens. |
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Post by stuartmcd on Jul 9, 2021 15:55:38 GMT
In other news the album is currently the number one album on iTunes right now.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 9, 2021 15:56:13 GMT
I don't think I have ever been more disappointed in a OCR in terms of presentation
Really poor booklet with most of the text completely illegible because of the size and colour choices. Did they not run the design by someone from an accessibility perspective?
The lack of synopsis is unforgivable. The lack of lyrics is regrettably.
The use of the fold out double CD case is bad as well. The plastic chosen is v low quality
Overall a very poor showing. I would have been happier paying an extra couple of quid for a decent booklet and case.
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Post by marob on Jul 9, 2021 16:15:11 GMT
I feel really bad for anyone taking their little kids to this expecting a Disney show. There should be more age guidance on the website to make it clear it’s not a kid’s show, especially with what tickets cost. Though Mischief Movie Night In has age guidance on it of 11+ and people still show up on the zoom videos with little kids, so I guess that’s not much help. I also remember reading on here about a family that took their kids to see The Inheritance… What did your girls make of it ceebee ? |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 9, 2021 16:42:39 GMT
Good god it’s worse than I feared. I listened to it earlier and my mouth was agog. Witless and an absolute grab bag of music styles that don’t gel.
Really put me off bothering to see it now.
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Post by vabbian on Jul 9, 2021 17:11:34 GMT
Going for a second round this evening! I hope I get the understudies - although unlikely for a Friday night
I have been listening to the recording all day so that I am more familiar with the plot, and can therefore focus on the shirtless dancers
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Post by fiyerorocher on Jul 9, 2021 17:22:50 GMT
Going for a second round this evening! I hope I get the understudies - although unlikely for a Friday night I have been listening to the recording all day so that I am more familiar with the plot, and can therefore focus on the shirtless dancers You'll probably get Michael! I think Ivano is still off. |
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Post by vabbian on Jul 9, 2021 17:25:14 GMT
The score really is sh*t though! I say: go see the show for the comedy (Victoria), few good ballads, magic Mike sections, rotating stalls, gay marriage (marry for love) and Ivano's earth-shattering heavenly tone !  |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 9, 2021 17:32:28 GMT
For all those spouting bile about this show, there are more who seem to love it judging by the scores in the poll. The difference is, those who love it don't profess to do so on a daily basis. Some folk seem to revel in wanting to pour cold puke over this show, desperate to see it fail. I hope those who dislike it so much might find something more positive in their lives that they might grow to love and share their views about, instead of peeing on others' bonfires by continually trashing a show that is nowhere near as bad as some like to make out. . The point you make about the ratings in the poll is entirely redundant, as you know just a few pages back somebody joined on multiple new accounts just to rate the show 5*'s, having admittedly not seen the show, just because they are a ALW fan. Please PM me with names of members you think have created multiple accounts. Thank you! |
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Post by newyorkcityboy on Jul 9, 2021 17:49:49 GMT
Some of the songs are really growing on me. But the plot still feels like a Made In Chelsea/Crown mash up. With a bit of Nip/Tuck thrown in for good measure!
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Post by alece10 on Jul 9, 2021 18:01:05 GMT
The score really is sh*t though! I say: go see the show for the comedy (Victoria), few good ballads, magic Mike sections, rotating stalls, gay marriage (marry for love) and Ivano's earth-shattering heavenly tone ! I'm here too. Give me a wave 👋 |
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Post by vabbian on Jul 9, 2021 18:06:14 GMT
The score really is sh*t though! I say: go see the show for the comedy (Victoria), few good ballads, magic Mike sections, rotating stalls, gay marriage (marry for love) and Ivano's earth-shattering heavenly tone ! I'm here too. Give me a wave 👋 If u see a gay™ that's me |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2021 18:10:00 GMT
as you know just a few pages back somebody joined on multiple new accounts just to rate the show 5*'s [Citation needed]
Only four new members have voted in the poll. (There are quite a few showing up as "new members", but most of them joined a long time ago but haven't posted much.) Those four span three different ISPs and two continents, which seems like a lot of effort to rig a meaningless poll.
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Post by alece10 on Jul 9, 2021 18:23:16 GMT
I'm here too. Give me a wave 👋 If u see a gay™ that's me Well that narrows it down to about half the audience. |
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Post by vabbian on Jul 9, 2021 18:26:13 GMT
Group of three girls next to me in the circle asked to be moved to with their friend (sitting separately in circle) to the central stalls, and the ushers arranged it!
Nice ticket upgrade methinks
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