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Post by stagebyte on Jun 14, 2021 20:18:20 GMT
But having pleaded for “theatre” to re-open without distancing, isn’t accepting a role as a “trial event” a betrayal of all other theatres and producers? If the pilot is a success then it'll mean a lot more venues can open at capacity or close to it. I suspect that the vaccine/negative test requirement will be expanded to other sporting venues as well as theatre. So these trial events currently... Are attendees having to prove they’ve had the jab or is a PCR test sufficient? What’s the criteria? |
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Post by Jon on Jun 14, 2021 20:21:43 GMT
So these trial events currently... Are attendees having to prove they’ve had the jab or is a PCR test sufficient? What’s the criteria? For the England Euro 2020 matches at Wembley, the requirement is proof of full vaccination status or a negative Lateral Flow Test taken at least 72 hours before. |
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 14, 2021 21:22:48 GMT
Vile that Webber gets preferential treatment while everybody else has to open with distancing or not at all.
A real slap in the face to all those who actually work in theatre for a living, as Webber laughs from his multi million pound empire.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jun 14, 2021 21:33:02 GMT
I wondered whether it would be done like the trial festival in Liverpool. I think they had to test the day before, on the day, and five days later.
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Post by danb on Jun 14, 2021 21:38:10 GMT
As much as he annoys me, at least he’s making headlines with the plight of commercial theatre. I have everything crossed that Cinderella is used as a trial and opens the door for everything else to open safely as planned after July 19. But having pleaded for “theatre” to re-open without distancing, isn’t accepting a role as a “trial event” a betrayal of all other theatres and producers? A betrayal? Who are you? The Daily Mail? Can’t we discuss anything without sensationalising it and turning it into a lowest common denominator argument on Jeremy Kyle? |
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jun 14, 2021 21:40:37 GMT
To be honest, if I owned a theatre, I'd rather have a few more weeks of socially-distanced seating than risk being blamed for a superspread event! Let somebody else take the risk, and learn from their mistakes.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jun 14, 2021 21:42:02 GMT
(Not that I think there will be a big transmission of the virus at Cinderella, but you could take notes on how they're managing queues and loos for example.)
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Post by Jon on Jun 14, 2021 21:55:27 GMT
I wondered whether it would be done like the trial festival in Liverpool. I think they had to test the day before, on the day, and five days later.
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Post by steve10086 on Jun 14, 2021 22:01:17 GMT
But having pleaded for “theatre” to re-open without distancing, isn’t accepting a role as a “trial event” a betrayal of all other theatres and producers? A betrayal? Who are you? The Daily Mail? Can’t we discuss anything without sensationalising it and turning it into a lowest common denominator argument on Jeremy Kyle? Having set himself up as pleading for UK theatre, it now looks like he’ll be a “test event” and everyone else can fend for themselves. That’s not a good look. Nor is your obnoxious attitude, to be honest. |
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Post by richey on Jun 14, 2021 22:06:17 GMT
Well according to the BBC, the news of the trial came as a surprise to ALW who said he couldn't comment further until he'd heard more about the scheme BBC News - Covid: Delay to full reopening a hammer blow, says live event sector www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57469547 |
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Post by stuartmcd on Jun 14, 2021 22:13:27 GMT
A betrayal? Who are you? The Daily Mail? Can’t we discuss anything without sensationalising it and turning it into a lowest common denominator argument on Jeremy Kyle? Having set himself up as pleading for UK theatre, it now looks like he’ll be a “test event” and everyone else can fend for themselves. That’s not a good look. Nor is your obnoxious attitude, to be honest. So he should just stay shut in solidarity with all the other shows?? Or he could do a test event which could hopefully see them come back sooner. |
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Post by steve10086 on Jun 14, 2021 22:18:44 GMT
Having set himself up as pleading for UK theatre, it now looks like he’ll be a “test event” and everyone else can fend for themselves. That’s not a good look. Nor is your obnoxious attitude, to be honest. So he should just stay shut in solidarity with all the other shows?? Or he could do a test event which could hopefully see them come back sooner. What, one minute “reopen theatres without restrictions”, then the next minute “It’s OK guys, I’ve got my show(s) open as test events, you can all wait for now”? |
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Post by stuartmcd on Jun 14, 2021 22:29:18 GMT
So he should just stay shut in solidarity with all the other shows?? Or he could do a test event which could hopefully see them come back sooner. What, one minute “reopen theatres without restrictions”, then the next minute “It’s OK guys, I’ve got my show(s) open as test events, you can all wait for now”? What else is he supposed to do? I’m sure he wishes that all the theatres can open but he has no control over that and he has tried to use his platform to raise awareness to the government that theatres desperately need to get back up and running. Now an opportunity has come his way to get one his shows open and he should just ignore it? That’s ridiculous. Get the show open. Show that theatres can be open and run safely. Otherwise it’s just back to us all twiddling our thumbs and endlessly waiting. |
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Post by Jon on Jun 14, 2021 22:43:20 GMT
I'm sure many theatre owners and companies would jump at the opportunity to be part of these pilots.
I'm a bit cynical that the news of the pilot was a surprise to ALW.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 15, 2021 4:22:32 GMT
Nothing would surprise me with this shambolic government. They probably decided to use Cinderella as a trial event and then forgot to call ALW to actually ask him.
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Post by danb on Jun 15, 2021 5:21:23 GMT
Nothing would surprise me with this shambolic government. They probably decided to use Cinderella as a trial event and then forgot to call ALW to actually ask him. This. The whole shambolic ‘governance’ this country has endured this past 15 months should leave us in no doubt that they are making it up as they go along. Not being guided by anything other than which of their donors they will potentially offend. Sorry if that sounds ‘obnoxious’. |
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Post by properjob on Jun 15, 2021 6:00:47 GMT
Given Boris's distant relationship with the truth it is entirely possible that he just made it up on the spot to deflect the question. I can imagine it coming as a complete surprise to the people running the trials as well. Hopefully ALW can hold him to it now it has been accidentally announced.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 15, 2021 6:10:08 GMT
So Cinderella gets to go to the ball early! How nice (for her).
I don’t believe for one tiny moment that ALW wasn’t aware. This will have been going on since he first started the “Ill sue the government” rubbish. Then the newspaper articles about “they’ll have to arrest me” all the time while this was being discussed?All complete spin and PR adding to the narrative he tries to build around himself as the saviour of british musical theatre. I mean, clever. I don’t think any of us saw it coming did we? But it doesn’t paint him in a particularly good light I don’t think.
Anyway, in other Cinders news according to her socials CHF has opened a tuck shop for the cast in her dressing room! This is in addition to the mini-library she set up a couple of weeks ago. You don’t have to pay for the book or some “tuck”, you just have to write something positive in Carrie’s Book Of Happiness and she’ll give you cola and a bag of cheesy wotsits. The cast must ADORE her. I hope they’re squeezing some rehearsals in along with all of this 🙂.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 15, 2021 6:47:44 GMT
If ALW didn't support the party he did then nobody would be batting an eyelid about this and you know it, that's all this is down to. People not liking his politics and so making a fuss. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. Cinderella is clearly one of the most obvious theatre shows to pick for a trial as a new musical trying to open that's already had to delay and so what if ALW has been pushing for it even behind the scenes? Who wouldn't if they could. And where has he said that now he can open one of his shows he doesn't give a toss about the rest of the industry? He literally hasn't and that accusation is absurd. There will clearly be other shows as part of this trial and so I don't know why everyone is acting like its some special treatment and only he will get this chance. The only reason that we know about Cinderella first is because the prime minister was ASKED about ALW and Cinderella.
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Post by danb on Jun 15, 2021 6:52:06 GMT
A fair point.
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Post by maskoftragedy on Jun 15, 2021 7:24:38 GMT
Anyway, in other Cinders news according to her socials CHF has opened a tuck shop for the cast in her dressing room! This is in addition to the mini-library she set up a couple of weeks ago. You don’t have to pay for the book or some “tuck”, you just have to write something positive in Carrie’s Book Of Happiness and she’ll give you cola and a bag of cheesy wotsits. The cast must ADORE her. I hope they’re squeezing some rehearsals in along with all of this 🙂.
She comes across as an utter nightmare and such hard work, honestly.
I do think she's a talented singer though so I am hopeful I'll still get to see Cinerella at some point. I've a ticket for June 25th but I'd rather not go than have to take a big risk with safety...although I do think at some point soon we've got to try and get things running again in earnest or what use is living.
The real cock up here, imho, was Boris setting a date for this "freedom day" hype. I can't believe anyone, even someone like him, took that risk.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 15, 2021 7:51:09 GMT
She set up a tuck shop and library for the rest of the cast but comes across as "hard work"? It seems quite like a nice and thoughtful thing to do if you ask me but I suppose that doesn't fit the narrative people like to have about her.
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Post by danb on Jun 15, 2021 7:57:31 GMT
Yes, and the selfish cow bought a nice coffee machine when they were at the Haymarket so that her cast mates didn’t have to go and spend £3 on a decent coffee every time. People expect content on her social media but only want stuff that paints her as a nightmare? Yes she grates & virtue signals a bit but she seems like a thoroughly decent human to me.
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Post by matilda1 on Jun 15, 2021 8:00:23 GMT
Mmm. The coffee machine was I think gifted, as are the numerous doughnuts, chocolate etc!
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Post by Mark on Jun 15, 2021 8:02:37 GMT
She set up a tuck shop and library for the rest of the cast but comes across as "hard work"? It seems quite like a nice and thoughtful thing to do if you ask me but I suppose that doesn't fit the narrative people like to have about her. I agree, I think it's lovely actually. I love watching her Vlogs and think she comes across as excitably and very caring. The library, if you haven't watched, formed from members of the cast expressing an interest in reading and so she has brought books for people to grab and read - pretty common for workplaces to have this i'd of thought. |
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