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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 11:44:14 GMT
Jack Ryder co directing?! Hahahaha!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 11:46:20 GMT
Who the hell is going to see a musical about 16 yr old girls? Other than it being about 16 yr old boys I can't think of anything more boring. I'm assuming they r trying to go for the teenage audience but forgot GB/TT are/is so crushingly uncool.
I bet my left bollock it doesn't go into west end and quietly dies a death
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 14:10:36 GMT
I bet my left bollock it doesn't go into west end and quietly dies a death Why the left? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 14:13:26 GMT
Purposely missing London I see, guess they probably already have something lined up for a London run. Superfan of the tv series, oxfordsimon, must be distraught that his closest venue is Northampton. |
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Post by ali973 on Feb 26, 2017 14:43:02 GMT
Will there be any good new ideas in the UK this year?
Shrek (done/vomit)
Legally Blonde (done/meh)
Hairspray (done/meh)
Sister Act (done/meh)
Sunset Blvd (done/has potential)
JCS (done x100/should be good)
Caroline Or Change (done/should be good)
Fiddler on the Roof (done/can go either way)
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The Life (finally something exciting)
Everybody's Talking About Jamie (should be good/all the way in Sheffield/unlikely transfer)
Wonderland (garbage, but okay if it's your thing)
Bat From Hell (could go either way)
Follies (done/should be good)
Hamilton (should be good)
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Post by rearstallsloiterer on Feb 26, 2017 15:37:08 GMT
And so the nay sayers come out in force, the same people who condemn virtually everything before it even hits the rehearsal room. There's a lot to hate about Gary Barlow isn't there, keeping all those theatre folk in work worldwide. I can see your point there. But of course the folks on here who resent that do so because they are not directly affected by that core point because they don't work in the industry. They are theatre wannabes who resent any success at all.
The Band doubtlessly will not be high art but it will be very successful because ladies book the tickets and they are standing by right now with their debit cards. They have all,watched the Tv series, as have all the nay sayers on here, and can't wait to see this. It will recoup on tour easily and the producers will bring it into the west end not caring if they make a bean because by then they won't need to. Simples.
Stop kicking Barlow you saddos, he is putting a lot of people in work in an industry you are meant to give a fig about.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 15:50:38 GMT
Stop kicking Barlow you saddos, he is putting a lot of people in work in an industry you are meant to give a fig about. Ouch. A little harsh, perhaps? |
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Post by d'James on Feb 26, 2017 16:29:47 GMT
Oh dear.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 16:37:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 16:40:25 GMT
Will there be any good new ideas in the UK this year? Shrek (done/vomit) Legally Blonde (done/meh) Hairspray (done/meh) Sister Act (done/meh) Sunset Blvd (done/has potential) JCS (done x100/should be good) Caroline Or Change (done/should be good) Fiddler on the Roof (done/can go either way) New work: The Life (finally something exciting) Everybody's Talking About Jamie (should be good/all the way in Sheffield/unlikely transfer) Wonderland (garbage, but okay if it's your thing) Bat From Hell (could go either way) Follies (done/should be good) Hamilton (should be good) Junkyard (Headlong / Bristol Old Vic / Theatr Clwyd / Rose Theatre Kingston) (completely new / should be good) I Capture the Castle (Watford Palace / Bolton Octagon / Oxford Playhouse) (completely new / more traditional) Sinners Club (The Other Room / Theatr Clwyd / Gagglebabble) (completely new / excellent) Tiger Bay (Wales Millennium Centre / Cape Town Opera) (completely new / sounds promising) Everything at The Other Palace (mix of new and done!) And there must be other new musical theatre |
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Post by infofreako on Feb 26, 2017 17:27:37 GMT
That's amazing rearstallsloiterer. I've just reread the entire thread and can't find anyone having a dig at Barlow yet with your amazing psychic powers you can tell that people have a downer on it for the Barlow link. This must make me a saddo Barlow hater too for not wanting to go and see it even though my reason is entirely down to the lack of south east coast venues |
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Post by danb on Feb 26, 2017 18:10:17 GMT
There is and has been an underlying air of snobbery about Mr Barlows work on here and previous boards since 'Finding Neverland' was first announced. It wouldn't take a lot of research to prove this. I have little interest in sitting through a full show but there are certainly several lovely tunes in both, and you cannot doubt his abilities as a songwriter. 'The Flood', 'Patience' and 'Rule The World' are all wonderful songs and to knock him for it (which I'm sure I have done in the past) is churlish. I don't think 'national treasure' is too strong a phrase....
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Post by Tibidabo on Feb 26, 2017 18:19:49 GMT
Stop kicking Barlow you saddos, he is putting a lot of people in work in an industry you are meant to give a fig about. Oops. I seem to have run out of hamster food so I won't be feeding the trolls. |
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Post by ali973 on Feb 26, 2017 18:31:13 GMT
I have nothing against The Girls. And neither do I have problem with Finding Neverland. Neither are shows I'm dying to see, but at least they offer something. The Band is one of the many junky jukebox musicals that manage to find their way in the UK and the West End. There's great appetite for these kind of junk especially in the UK. I don't see it that prevalent in other commercial theatre hubs.
I was actually browsing a website of musicals in Korea, and was so impressed by the variety and the volume of work that's running there.
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Post by ptwest on Feb 26, 2017 19:01:50 GMT
I'm not interested in seeing this, but I can see this selling very well. And given that so many of our venues are cash strapped at the moment, if it gets people through the doors and spending money then that's surely got to be a positive if only on that level.
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Post by infofreako on Feb 26, 2017 20:12:42 GMT
I agree there has regarding Barlow. In fact the poster i responded to accused me of it over on The Girls thread. For the record though I like Finding Neverland as much as I dislike The Girls so certainly not an anti Barlow snob. He is a great songwriter without a doubt and I have nothing against him at all.
Back on topic though I would like to see this at some stage. Im not willing to travel to see it unless it reaches London though
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 26, 2017 20:47:18 GMT
There is and has been an underlying air of snobbery about Mr Barlows work on here and previous boards since 'Finding Neverland' was first announced. He just spent 8 weeks having his commercial venture backed up by our national broadcaster. The format of Let It Shine has been trashy by any standards (not cheap, but definitely trashy) and the judges of the final included Peter Kay dressed as Honey G who took the complete piss out of it from start to finish while Gary Barlow guffawed in approval. Forgive me for feeling a teeny bit snobby about it. If it keeps people in work thats fine, but that doesn't mean we have to buy into it and I don't appreciate being called a saddo because I don't think GB's endeavours are entirely altruistic. |
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Post by Being Alive on Feb 26, 2017 21:41:25 GMT
Purposely missing London I see, guess they probably already have something lined up for a London run. Superfan of the tv series, oxfordsimon, must be distraught that his closest venue is Northampton. I've heard this will make an appearance at Oxford |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 26, 2017 21:53:58 GMT
Superfan of the tv series, oxfordsimon, must be distraught that his closest venue is Northampton. I've heard this will make an appearance at Oxford Not the university presumably:) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 21:58:46 GMT
Why aren't people allowed to dislike Gary Barlow and/or his musical theatre work again?
I mean people on this board openly say they can't stand Sondheim's work who - inarguably - has done far more to advance the art form of musical theatre than Gary Barlow has ever done or will ever do.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Feb 26, 2017 22:08:34 GMT
Purposely missing London I see, guess they probably already have something lined up for a London run. Superfan of the tv series, oxfordsimon, must be distraught that his closest venue is Northampton. So I enjoy cheesy, escapist Saturday night TV with a bit of a theatrical side - that doesn't make me a superfan. And I am not distraught about it not coming to Oxford on the first round of dates - it is not the sort of show I would choose to attend. My sister who does live in Northampton and is a major TT fan is absolutely delighted. |
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Post by infofreako on Feb 26, 2017 22:18:23 GMT
Why aren't people allowed to dislike Gary Barlow and/or his musical theatre work again? I mean people on this board openly say they can't stand Sondheim's work who - inarguably - has done far more to advance the art form of musical theatre than Gary Barlow has ever done or will ever do. Couldnt have put it better myself. Its a place for opinions. We all love theatre, actively say when we like something, should be welcome to say when we dont too. Its not about wanting people to be out of work or for shows to fail. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 27, 2017 6:58:09 GMT
Why aren't people allowed to dislike Gary Barlow and/or his musical theatre work again? I mean people on this board openly say they can't stand Sondheim's work who - inarguably - has done far more to advance the art form of musical theatre than Gary Barlow has ever done or will ever do. GB seems to have tapped straight into "National Treasure" status. I think it happened when he got involved with the Queens diamond jubilee. He now appears to be untouchable. |
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Post by rearstallsloiterer on Feb 27, 2017 7:22:43 GMT
You are of course allowed to dislike the work of GB or anybody for that matter, it would just be polite and rational if people disliked it after they had seen it not before it has even got to the workshop stage. Go back to The Girls thread and you will see that there are posts from people, and we all know who they are, who wrote it off as a terrible idea before it had been seen by anybody. As it turns out it is anything but a bad idea, the reviews continued on Sunday to be a producers dream, and it is finding an audience as of course it would. True not everybody loves Sondheim but we do usually give home rhe courtesy of presenting his new work to us before we slag it off and condemn it.
Yes mr Barlow has just enjoyed weeks of free publicity on the BBC but he is only enjoying a perk that two of our greatest theatrical producers have benefited from recently. Why would you not take this if offered by the nations broadcaster? Anybody would.
There are people, saddos, on here who use their negative default position as soon as a production is announced. Some of this comes from the dispiriting attitude that people adopt who intrinsically are Members of a self formed gang or clique. They fear any perceived outsider coming into the group from whatever angle, performer, writer, producer or new poster even. They will crush all innovation unless it comes from the gangs subconscious criteria of acceptability and peer group conformity, they hide in the shadows and assassinate from behind their barricade of anonymity. The theatre board equivalent of the road side bomb.
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Post by infofreako on Feb 27, 2017 7:35:32 GMT
The Band will of course be different to other new work though as people will clearly make a judgement before seeing it based on their opinions of the songs of Take That.
The very factor that will make it immensely popular will also put people off. I'm not convinced that's hiding behind anonymity at all.
Not convinced that your approach of resorting to insults when people disagree with your opinion is the right way to go about things but then I said similar over on The Girls thread.
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