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Post by oxfordsimon on Apr 4, 2016 0:39:53 GMT
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Post by talkstageytome on Apr 4, 2016 0:55:08 GMT
I think he has the right to do whatever he wants, and this is clearly something he feels passionate about. He should be applauded for such a bold stance! I just can't believe arguments about people's fundamental rights are still going on. Just let people live their lives for goodness sake! The government should be sticking up for it's people, not segregating them. Stephen Schwartz is right to protest this ridiculousness in whichever way he chooses!
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Post by Someone in a tree on Apr 4, 2016 6:33:01 GMT
Go Schwartz
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Post by jaqs on Apr 4, 2016 9:05:14 GMT
So gays in NC have their rights and Wicked taken away.
Is he consistent, is his work banned from performance in all gay unfriendly countries?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 10:15:38 GMT
I don't think his boycott will make a difference, and I wouldn't be surprised if his stance is less strong in countries that aren't the US, but I applaud his making a strong statement anyway. I'm not entirely sure questioning whether his views are globally consistent isn't potentially creating a strawman - this isn't about Stephen Schwartz making a statement against global homophobia (though I'm sure he's against homophobia in all its forms), this is Stephen Schwartz saying "hang on, this is twenty-first century America, it is frightening and wrong that this is still an issue in this country, especially if other states use North Carolina as a precedent to bring in their own forms of oppression" and doing what he can to stand up against what is happening there.
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Post by duncan on Apr 4, 2016 11:16:44 GMT
May the Schwartz be with you. (a cultural reference that 99% of you wont get  ) |
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Post by jaqs on Apr 4, 2016 12:45:05 GMT
But surely his stand hurts those being oppressed more than those who are oppressing. Given the disproportinally high number of gay people involved in theatre.
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Post by mallardo on Apr 4, 2016 13:45:30 GMT
The guy's making a gesture and hoping that others follow suit, what's wrong with that? North Carolina has a couple of well known universities with respected performing arts schools attached and those schools would be seriously impacted if other composers started withdrawing their works. So this is a form of political pressure that could have some small meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 14:20:24 GMT
But surely his stand hurts those being oppressed more than those who are oppressing. Given the disproportinally high number of gay people involved in theatre. Reducing the number of shows a small number of theatres can put on by a tiny fraction of a percent is going to make no noticeable difference. Getting additional press attention on North Carolina might. |
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 6, 2016 5:22:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 7:28:10 GMT
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Post by oxfordsimon on Apr 9, 2016 0:50:03 GMT
Bruce Springsteen has cancelled a gig in NC as a result of the new law - so the cultural boycott is extending.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2016 12:24:11 GMT
Quite surprised at the flippancy of some of the comments in this thread... Have been in the US Deep South for the past fortnight, spending a lot of time visiting the Civil Rights museums/centres/memorials. Quite an eye-opener, especially as this was only fifty years or so ago. The state of Mississippi has now also decided that they can refuse to serve gay people (and single mothers...) on religious grounds. So having come so far in fifty years, the US seems to be slipping back. If Schwartz and Springsteen want to be my Rosa Parks, then good on these guys, and let's hope more and more will make a stand.
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Post by lynette on Apr 9, 2016 14:18:41 GMT
America really is a foreign country and I'm always surprised that we are surprised by how different from the UK it is.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Apr 9, 2016 22:43:22 GMT
In legal terms, I think the Supreme Court could find a way to strike down the new laws on the basis of being unconstitutional - but that will take some time.
What we are seeing is a backlash from SCOTUS ruling in favour of same-sex marriage and so you have states trying to reassert their rights to legislate in such areas.
I have no doubt that these measures will be struck down - but it will be a slow process.
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 9, 2016 23:45:22 GMT
Schwartz is a drop in the water, but it's definitely part of a larger movement, along with Bruce Springsteen.
Yeah, we're an interesting country for sure...
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Post by oxfordsimon on Apr 13, 2016 0:07:29 GMT
Bryan Adams has joined the boycott
It won't change the minds of the bigots in charge - but they might lose support next time they stand for election. But I suspect it will be SCOTUS that puts them back in their places. And then they will go out and find new ways of attacking people for who they are.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 8:12:43 GMT
Seems the Governor of North Carolina is having a rethink after the "feedback"... Just goes to show that it's worth saying or doing something; anything that will draw attention to such lunacy in the 21st century.
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 14, 2016 15:34:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 16:40:37 GMT
I believe the word we're looking for (unused this side of The Pond actually) is "ass-hole"...  |
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 14, 2016 22:04:30 GMT
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Post by Michael on Apr 19, 2016 4:43:36 GMT
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