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Post by talkingheads on Aug 3, 2020 18:43:10 GMT
The Marlowe in Canterbury have postponed Jack and the Beanstalk to 2021:
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Post by CG on the loose on Aug 3, 2020 18:56:33 GMT
I spotted similar announcements from Salisbury Playhouse and Loughborough Town Hall on Twitter today, and from the Grand Opera House, Belfast - the first of the QDOS postponements.
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Post by talkingheads on Aug 3, 2020 19:03:16 GMT
The Palladium hadn't even gone onsale had it? I wonder if they'll risk selling for the 2021 season to get a bit of capital in? I know I'd buy tickets!
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Post by duncan on Aug 5, 2020 9:38:02 GMT
And there goes the Kings in Edinburgh.
Release says its over £2 million lost in takings etc.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 15:41:47 GMT
Belfast, Aberdeen and Glasgow all gone. With NI and Scotland having lower case per population than England and Wales. What chance does the rest of the country have?
My only positive line of thinking is these pantos sometimes open a few weeks earlier than others, so did they need to decide sooner?
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Post by mortal on Aug 5, 2020 21:08:28 GMT
Cinderella at Southampton Mayflower has been put back to next year
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Post by Dr Tom on Aug 6, 2020 9:24:38 GMT
Goldilocks in Birmingham postponed to 2021/22. The Hippodrome now closed until at least February 2021.
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Post by longinthetooth on Aug 6, 2020 9:26:28 GMT
Birmingham Hippodrome have now postponed Goldilocks and the Three Bears for a year. Their staging of The Nutcracker also affected. They say they will be closed until at least 1st February.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 19:12:57 GMT
The answer to this question is none thanks to the ****** in Wuhan!
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Post by firefingers on Aug 6, 2020 20:33:21 GMT
The answer to this question is none thanks to the ****** in Wuhan! I mean, theatre isn't over all over the world. South Korea, New Zealand, and others have been able to have theatre happening but the British government bungled it, and are providing too little support to the industry to ensure its survival. Johnson declares so much of his "achievements" to be world beating, but our theatre genuinely was, and that includes panto. The w*nker in Westminster is more to blame than the one in Wuhan for our lack of pantos this year. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 10:36:16 GMT
The answer to this question is none thanks to the ****** in Wuhan! I mean, theatre isn't over all over the world. South Korea, New Zealand, and others have been able to have theatre happening but the British government bungled it, and are providing too little support to the industry to ensure its survival. Johnson declares so much of his "achievements" to be world beating, but our theatre genuinely was, and that includes panto. The w*nker in Westminster is more to blame than the one in Wuhan for our lack of pantos this year. South Korea are certainly the country the rest of the world should have followed. New Zealand has a population under a 10th of the UK and locked down their borders very quickly so I cannot compare them to us. No other major European Country has got their Arts and Live Entertainments up and running yet. Sadly in the scheme of things stuff like the theatre is down the list of things getting back to normal. We have been without attended live performances for nearly 5 months now and it honestly looks like being a year plus now unless a vaccine is found. |
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 7, 2020 12:15:41 GMT
It's a bit early to be writing off the ENTIRE panto season. They may not be in the form we are used to, but there will be pantos this year. Oh yes there will! (And it's panto, so there aren't really any rules anyway.)
I'm going to be unusually controversial, but any producing theatre that doesn't stage a panto this year is, frankly, undeserving of support or sympathy.
This far out, you just cut your cloth accordingly, based on the size of the audience you think you'll have. That's what the world-famous Crucible Theatre is doing, for example, starring Damien Williams in his 13th(?) consecutive Sheffield panto.
It's normally over the square at the Lyceum, so having a panto back at the Crucible will be just like the days of Bobby Knutt and Marti Caine.
And after listening to Jeremy Vine yesterday on Radio 2, there are going to be pantos elsewhere too.
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Post by firefingers on Aug 7, 2020 19:08:04 GMT
I mean, theatre isn't over all over the world. South Korea, New Zealand, and others have been able to have theatre happening but the British government bungled it, and are providing too little support to the industry to ensure its survival. Johnson declares so much of his "achievements" to be world beating, but our theatre genuinely was, and that includes panto. The w*nker in Westminster is more to blame than the one in Wuhan for our lack of pantos this year. South Korea are certainly the country the rest of the world should have followed. New Zealand has a population under a 10th of the UK and locked down their borders very quickly so I cannot compare them to us. No other major European Country has got their Arts and Live Entertainments up and running yet. Sadly in the scheme of things stuff like the theatre is down the list of things getting back to normal. We have been without attended live performances for nearly 5 months now and it honestly looks like being a year plus now unless a vaccine is found. My comparison with NZ was quite relevant. Both island nations, working on the same info. As soon as they had cases they locked down hard, had very few cases and deaths and as a result can have theatre. Our prime minister wasted time, didnt attend meetings and ignore it until it was too late. With a different leader (and I'm not suggesting one of our current actual candidates but a hypothetical) we could have had panto. But we didnt and I suppose over all we got what we voted for. Sorry if I'm coming across touchy, as a sound engineer Christmas was my most profitable time of year, earning sometimes double what I could on a normal week. During the rest of the year I'd mix in theatres <1000 seats, but at Christmas I'd often find myself in double that. Demand sky rockets as regional playhouse that normally don't need a sound engineer suddenly need two. I've had employers offer to drive me personally 100s of miles home on Christmas Eve in an attempt to sign me. I could earn 25% of my yearly in those five weeks. I haven't worked since March and and my union is mooting next March as the restart point. My savings are drained as is my love for my industry. No one works in theatre for the money, but without it it becomes untenable. A survey several months back said a third of sound engineers were considering retaining and that number can only have gone up since, along with myriad of other skill sets. Theatre will be back, but the extensive quality work force? That's gone for a good while. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 22:19:55 GMT
I see Portsmouth are still going ahead with 400 capacity down from usual 1,400. Bigger vwnues could probably get 500 plus in but for few theates this will be cost effective even if they did strip back the supporting cast a bit and possibly used recorded music which would be great for actors or musicians either.
A lot of bigger panto stars are often paid a box office percentage I've read so with 30% capacity they would be unlikely to make what they usually do so would they want to risk performing especially the more mature performers or some who may be more at risk for a number of reasons.
With reduced capacity shows could run longer I guess if they they could figure out how to remunerate the casts adequately. If some performers don't want to perform, it could even be a chance for some new faces to step up.
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Post by talkingheads on Aug 10, 2020 12:11:39 GMT
Inevitably both the Lyric Hammersmith and Hackney Empire have rescheduled to 2021.
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Post by CG on the loose on Aug 10, 2020 12:26:38 GMT
Stratford East, Hull New Theatre, Nottingham Theatre Royal, Blackpool Grand, Stafford Gatehouse, Peterborough New Theatre, Basingstoke Anvil, Hornchurch Queen's Theatre all postponed to 2021, while St Helen's Theatre Royal changes title (Cinderella to Beauty & the Beast) and goes ahead with socially distanced, COVID secure production.
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Post by duncan on Aug 10, 2020 13:33:21 GMT
As we're currently seeing in Australia and indeed in Aberdeen, unless there is a vaccine all NZ has done is push the problem down the road. South Korea are certainly the country the rest of the world should have followed. New Zealand has a population under a 10th of the UK and locked down their borders very quickly so I cannot compare them to us. No other major European Country has got their Arts and Live Entertainments up and running yet. Sadly in the scheme of things stuff like the theatre is down the list of things getting back to normal. We have been without attended live performances for nearly 5 months now and it honestly looks like being a year plus now unless a vaccine is found. My comparison with NZ was quite relevant. |
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Post by firefingers on Aug 10, 2020 15:20:58 GMT
As we're currently seeing in Australia and indeed in Aberdeen, unless there is a vaccine all NZ has done is push the problem down the road. My comparison with NZ was quite relevant. Thousands of lives saved, and with the research strongly pointing at a vaccine by the end of the year, pushing it down the road was all that was required. |
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Post by duncan on Aug 11, 2020 11:41:46 GMT
If you believe in the vaccine being developed that quick. I don't.
In the meantime the NZ economy goes down the toilet as it loses all tourism and indeed Auckland goes back into lockdown. Countries will not be able to function going forward following the NZ model.
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Post by marcellus on Aug 11, 2020 16:00:46 GMT
If you believe in the vaccine being developed that quick. I don't. In the meantime the NZ economy goes down the toilet as it loses all tourism and indeed Auckland goes back into lockdown. Countries will not be able to function going forward following the NZ model.
We may or may not have a vaccine soon, but since March scientists and medics have found at least two drugs appear to significantly reduce severity and mortality of COVID: Dexamethasone and Interferon B. A third, Remdesavir, may also be effective. Dexamethasone and Interferon B are relatively cheap to produce, but have the potential to reduce not only the death toll but also reduce the time patients spend in hospital and the risk of "long COVID" complications.
These are all things New Zealanders will benefit from, because their government chose to be cautious about an unknown disease of unknown severity. Even if New Zealand chose to relax restrictions now, the death toll and long term health consequences, as well as risks to their health service, would still end up being less than it would have been if their government had allowed it to run rampant in March 2020.
So no, New Zealand hasn't "pushed the problem down the road". It's exercised a caution which now, even in the current absence of a vaccine, is paying dividends. It's a shame the UK government didn't exercise a similar caution: some of our dead would have been saved by dexamethasone or interferon B, if the government had been quicker to "push the problem down the road."
www.uhs.nhs.uk/ClinicalResearchinSouthampton/Research/News-and-updates/Articles/Inhaled-drug-prevents-COVID-19-patients-getting-worse-in-Southampton-trial.aspx |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 0:22:59 GMT
New Zealand have kept their cases really down and geographically is in a different situation to European Countries their PM has gone with very strong tactics but we don't know the cost it has had on their various sectors. Have they done furlough schemes or likewise. The far bigger South Korea has tried to keep things open and case numbers down.
NZ I was told by a Kiwi chap I worked with was a very Conservative country in thought. Their ruling party is described as Centre Left so might be like Blair era New Labour I would think.
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Post by stevej678 on Aug 12, 2020 6:25:09 GMT
New Zealand's response to the Covid-19 pandemic sounds like a lousy subject for a panto.
I think I'll stick with the old favourites like Cinderella and Peter Pan.
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Post by talkingheads on Aug 12, 2020 9:39:28 GMT
Another huge panto rescheduled, Bradford Alhambra's Sleeping Beauty:
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Post by talkingheads on Aug 12, 2020 16:17:34 GMT
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Post by CG on the loose on Aug 12, 2020 16:26:22 GMT
Royal & Derngate Northampton, Mercury Colchester, Oldham Coliseum also postponed to 2021 and Regis Centre Bognor cancelled.
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