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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 17:45:55 GMT
This will be my first production of Betrayal. Not my first Pinter, though. I find him hit and miss. I'm not sure if my usual theatre buddy will overcome her Pinter-aversion to see it. There are plenty of regular theatregoers who aren't particularly Pinter fans - no reason why people new to his work will be any different. But getting new people in through the door to give it a chance can only be a good thing. *Raises hand* me me. Regular theatre goer, who has sworn off Pinter (if only friends of mine would stop being in it as well). But I would go for the chance to see Hiddles do not-Shakespeare (again no aversion to that, just want to see the man do something else). It's a well worn argument, that I barely have the energy to get into, but it's a bit of a stretch to say being a Tom Hiddleston fan means you won't understand Pinter. I think it's perfectly possible that intelligent individuals do indeed enjoy blonde curly haired actors. It's also perfectly possible that Pinter isn't actually that difficult to understand. |
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Post by kathryn on Nov 15, 2018 17:50:55 GMT
It's also perfectly possible that Pinter isn't actually that difficult to understand. Some Pinter isn't hard to understand, some Pinter is very entertaining and accessible, even. Some of it is very funny! Some of it is difficult and obscure and tends to bewilder and drag even with the best actors alive in it. *cough*No Man's Land*cough*. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 17:53:43 GMT
I *wish* he was blond and curly-haired, I miss that look (ridiculous though it was).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:24:09 GMT
I *wish* he was blond and curly-haired, I miss that look (ridiculous though it was). Indeed, so much so that it's still how I see him in my head! Bring back Wallander Hiddles!! |
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Post by Jon on Nov 15, 2018 18:33:02 GMT
I don’t have pictures but Hiddleston’s hair in Suburban Shootout was a sight for sore eyes
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:40:18 GMT
I don’t have pictures but Hiddleston’s hair in Suburban Shootout was a sight for sore eyes Here to help . . .  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:44:53 GMT
Doing the Lord's work as ever @ryan
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:47:40 GMT
Will be interesting who will be the other two actors joining TH. I have seen one production of Betrayal so far at The Crucible in Sheffield and I cannot remember that much except that I really liked it and John Simm was absolutely fantastic as Jerry.
I loved that production too. It's the only Pinter I've seen which I've enjoyed. Ruth Gemmell was fab too.
I liked the set - they had a glass floor with a load of rubbish underneath it - bus tickets and menus and theatre tickets, coffee cups and stuff. I assume the general detritus of a relationship, dates and so on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:50:11 GMT
It's also perfectly possible that Pinter isn't actually that difficult to understand. Some Pinter isn't hard to understand, some Pinter is very entertaining and accessible, even. Some of it is very funny! Some of it is difficult and obscure and tends to bewilder and drag even with the best actors alive in it. *cough*No Man's Land*cough*.
HUZZAH! Someone agrees with me about that awful fiasco. I hated HATED that production, and it's up there with my top 3 things I have most disliked in the theatre ever.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 19:18:21 GMT
Some Pinter isn't hard to understand, some Pinter is very entertaining and accessible, even. Some of it is very funny! Some of it is difficult and obscure and tends to bewilder and drag even with the best actors alive in it. *cough*No Man's Land*cough*.
HUZZAH! Someone agrees with me about that awful fiasco. I hated HATED that production, and it's up there with my top 3 things I have most disliked in the theatre ever.
i wasn't in love with it either....I mean I enjoyed at bit of Sir Ian and Sir Pat pootling about the stage for what felt like 3 hours. I didn't actively hate it put nor can I remember much about the damn thing if I'm honest. Anyway back to Hiddles and his hair. It is lovely hair. |
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Post by showgirl on Nov 15, 2018 19:48:01 GMT
Happy to be a fan of neither - ie Pinter or the aforementioned actor - so not to have another "must-see" play on my list!
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Post by indis on Nov 15, 2018 19:50:42 GMT
I don’t have pictures but Hiddleston’s hair in Suburban Shootout was a sight for sore eyes Here to help . . . love the locks he has at the moment , but could go without the beard O:) |
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Post by lakeside on Nov 15, 2018 20:11:08 GMT
Don't panic - this should be a lot easier to get tickets for than anything else recently, as it's a 3 month run in a medium-sized theatre. There will almost certainly be some form of day seat or TodayTix rush/lotto as a fall-back option. I wouldn't rule out an NT live broadcast, either, considering the fancy way they are already marketing it. Thanks for the reassurance  I didn't get into RADA Hamlet last year or the Pinter gala night recently, and think I managed to get one of the very last tickets to the talk he did with Josie Rourke a couple of weeks ago so I was just having visions of the dreaded 'sold out' message. |
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Post by jess173 on Nov 15, 2018 20:23:59 GMT
I‘m very nervous about that too. Coriolanus sold out so quickly and while this one is bigger I’m still super scared to miss out.
Do you think they will limit the number of tickets one can buy?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 20:24:22 GMT
Doing the Lord's work as ever @ryan Always a pleasure. Never a chore. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 21:03:04 GMT
I don't know why but the thought of Hiddleston in a Pinter play sets me off laughing. And all the pictures you've put on here (especially the one from Ryan) are hilarious. I don't think I could go to see this because I'm convinced I'll collapse in a fit of giggles during the pregnant pauses.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 15, 2018 21:54:22 GMT
I *wish* he was blond and curly-haired, I miss that look (ridiculous though it was). Indeed, so much so that it's still how I see him in my head! Bring back Wallander Hiddles!! He’ll always be Cassio to me! goo.gl/images/bn6NFyJust lately he has been describing himself as ‘ginger’, rather than blond. Which is clearly wrong. |
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Post by kathryn on Nov 15, 2018 22:02:58 GMT
I‘m very nervous about that too. Coriolanus sold out so quickly and while this one is bigger I’m still super scared to miss out. Do you think they will limit the number of tickets one can buy? The Harold Pinter is three times the size of the Donmar! RADA Hamlet was officially ridiculous in part because they weren’t allowing any returns - there were empty seats the night I saw it, presumably sold to people who couldn’t make it on the night for one reason or another. In my experience, if you really want to see a show and can be reasonably flexible about your dates, you will get in. You might have to get up early and queue for day seats, or haunt the website for returns, or keep an eye out on social media for people with spare tickets they want to sell, but with a decent length run in a decent size theatre you will get in if you really want to. |
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Post by princeton on Nov 15, 2018 23:26:51 GMT
Do you remember the 1998 Trevor Nunn production at NT where the set was based on the Rachel Whiteread sculpture "House" and was a cast of the rooms giving an inverse image of them, mirroring the reversed timeline of the play. I do. A very early Es Devlin set if I recall correctly. I remember thinking it was a pretty good art installation - less good as the set for Betrayal. |
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Post by nash16 on Nov 16, 2018 0:07:19 GMT
The "trailer" for this is HI-LARIOUS.
What is he on?
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Post by Jan on Nov 16, 2018 7:00:05 GMT
Do you remember the 1998 Trevor Nunn production at NT where the set was based on the Rachel Whiteread sculpture "House" and was a cast of the rooms giving an inverse image of them, mirroring the reversed timeline of the play. I do. A very early Es Devlin set if I recall correctly. I remember thinking it was a pretty good art installation - less good as the set for Betrayal. Es Devlin - correct. I thought as a concept it was great. Before that I saw a good production of the play at the Almeida with Cheryl Campbell, Martyn Shaw and Bill Nighy. However, I think it is one of the very few plays where the film version (Ben Kingsley, Jeremy Irons, Patricia Hodge) is better than any stage production of it I've seen. Glengarry Glen Ross is another. |
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Post by learfan on Nov 16, 2018 8:34:15 GMT
I saw that Almeida production. Very good as i recall. Will book for this new one, bringing the kiddiwinks as a treat.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 16, 2018 9:35:36 GMT
The "trailer" for this is HI-LARIOUS. What is he on? Which ‘he’ are you referring to? Hiddles? Jamie Lloyd? I haven’t seen a set of credits for the trailer so I don’t think anyone knows who came up with the idea, directed it, where the music comes from, etc. Might have been done by someone in the marketing department at Jamie Lloyd Co. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 9:57:32 GMT
It's a Dusthouse trailer, they do a lot with the RSC.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 16, 2018 10:11:54 GMT
Awesome. I somehow missed that tweet among the many times the trailer crossed my various timelines (which is what I get for following Jamie Lloyd AND The Jamie Lloyd Company AND ATG AND Hiddles on both Twitter and Instagram - a bit like the Ian McKellen announcement from 5-6 different theatres t'other day).
So it looks like the man responsible for the trailer is Christopher McGill.
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I didn't get into RADA Hamlet last year or the Pinter gala night recently, and think I managed to get one of the very last tickets to the talk he did with Josie Rourke a couple of weeks ago so I was just having visions of the dreaded 'sold out' message.
