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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Jun 25, 2019 13:17:52 GMT
Thanks for the tips. Shame the Time Out offer starts tomorrow. Sorted for Front Stalls £20, really helpful box office lady. Seems we may be hindered by a tree occasionally, but I’m only really going to hear Rob Houchen sing so for £20 I can live with a bit of foliage. I don't even remember there being a tree so it must have been used very sparingly. You should be good!
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Post by theatrefan77 on Jun 25, 2019 14:06:08 GMT
There is no tree in this production, but there is a roman column which will interfere with certain scenes in you sit in the extreme far left seats in the first few rows. Still good value for £20
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jun 25, 2019 14:17:46 GMT
There is no tree in this production, but there is a roman column which will interfere with certain scenes in you sit in the extreme far left seats in the first few rows. Still good value for £20 As this production is following in the footsteps of the Man of la Mancha you will be able to move along the row
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Post by liverpool54321 on Jun 25, 2019 14:50:32 GMT
Went last night and really enjoyed it. Had originally booked box seats but venue contacted us to say view not good (looks like speaker stack blocks view) so originally moved us to another box. Asked if able to go in stalls instead and ended up being offeredfront stalls central rows. Opted for Row E which was great.
Stalls looked almost full so they do a good job getting people in at the last minute. No one in side seats first half but quite a few second so guess people moved down from the rear.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 14:51:17 GMT
The pity, and which perhaps will for ever taint this show for me, is Adam Guettel and his incredibly dodgy views. It left an unpleasant taste in my mouth that the show couldn't erase. What are these incredibly dodgy views? I wasn't aware of this! (Though had never heard of him before Light)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 14:53:26 GMT
@sharpe12 He seems to believe that anti-white racism is a thing, he came out in favour of Brett Kavanaugh stating that Dr Christine Blasey Ford lacked credibility, and by his own admission he has been - at the VERY least - unkind to women over the years. So he's probably been not-great for years but I just can't get past his thinking that "Christine Blasey Ford's timing is very suspicious" is a take worth not only having but also worth stating in public, that was a very difficult period for a lot of us. EDIT: this link possibly worth a read on the subject: www.theintervalny.com/editorial/2018/09/on-adam-guettel-silence-and-the-fear-of-nothingness/
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 14:56:41 GMT
@sharpe12 He seems to believe that anti-white racism is a thing, he came out in favour of Brett Kavanaugh stating that Dr Christine Blasey Ford lacked credibility, and by his own admission he has been - at the VERY least - unkind to women over the years. So he's probably been not-great for years but I just can't get past his thinking that "Christine Blasey Ford's timing is very suspicious" is a take worth not only having but also worth stating in public, that was a very difficult period for a lot of us. EDIT: this link possibly worth a read on the subject: www.theintervalny.com/editorial/2018/09/on-adam-guettel-silence-and-the-fear-of-nothingness/God, that would really put me off too - dunno how people who work in MT can have such ludicrous non inclusive views. Hopefully I won't keep thinking of it when I see the show. When I saw that thing at The Other Palace with Jamie Muscato and Kelsey Grammer I couldn't get past Grammar being a Trump supporter. Though he was a terrible singer too so that didn't help...
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 25, 2019 19:04:18 GMT
Racism against white people can exist, but not in the Western World, and what Adam Guettel and his Republican friends argue is that white people experience racism in countries like the US, which is absurd.
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Post by anita on Jun 26, 2019 9:11:00 GMT
"Anti-white racism is a thing": Zimbabwe's seizing of "white" farms? Where does that fit? I'm not trying to take part in this argument, I'm just curious whether it fits the definition or not? I have a cousin who is married to a white South African professional golfer. When they lived there they had to have guns for protection unfortunately.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 26, 2019 10:30:10 GMT
Racism against white people can exist, but not in the Western World, and what Adam Guettel and his Republican friends argue is that white people experience racism in countries like the US, which is absurd. Ah, thanks, I catch the drift of the posts now. I'd be a little careful saying white people can't experience racism in the West, in that case. Anti-Semitism, for example, is racism. Well yes, but no one discriminates against Jewish people for being white, they discriminate them for being Jewish. What I was trying to say is that white people in the West cannot be discriminated for being white.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 26, 2019 12:09:09 GMT
They’re all hate crimes and therefore are very despicable.
Theatremonkey your post above sounds you lived that and that is dreadful.
Had no idea of Adan Guettels politics until today.
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Post by edi on Jun 26, 2019 12:45:22 GMT
White people can experience racism in the western world. Example is polish people just after brexit.
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Post by Polly1 on Jun 26, 2019 13:54:05 GMT
Going tonight - could anyone give me am accurate running time please?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 26, 2019 14:09:56 GMT
Going tonight - could anyone give me am accurate running time please? 2 hours and 20 minutes
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Post by mjh on Jun 26, 2019 14:56:05 GMT
Dove Cameron is out again tonight.
How many performances has she missed?
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Post by Polly1 on Jun 26, 2019 15:00:05 GMT
Thank you. Just got an email to say that Dove Cameron is off tonight (but as I've never heard of her, not that bothered!)
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 26, 2019 18:49:12 GMT
Sounds like a soapy politician anyway. Oh now I need some industrial strength soap to scrub that image out of my head ;(
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Post by anthony40 on Jun 26, 2019 20:47:02 GMT
Saw this last night with my sister who, quite frankly only went because I was talking about it, and I LOVED it! Despite knowing very little about it, my sister actually enjoyed it too.
Despite listening to the cast recording for years and watching the PBS recording, there nothing quite like seeing live. And, let's face it. we've waited long enough for it to come over. It's a shame it's such a short run.
Firstly, the set. Simple, but incredibly effective. I also love the fact that throughout you can see the orchestra. There's something quite beautiful about several arms shaped just so, moving in synchronicity as violin and the harp are played.
Such a lush, sweeping score.
Special mention to the lighting design and costumes. One to twice I was blown away by the beauty of the dresses being worn.
I wasn't too bothered about the singing in Italian. Although I don't speak the language (wish I did) we both understood what was going on.
I thought Rob Houchen as Fabrizio was truly excellent. His voice was crystal clear and it was obvious how much work he had put into his Italian, pronunciation and diction. I believed this guy was in love.
Dove Cameron was on last night and although I'm not really to up to speed with all go her work, I thought she perfectly captured the childlike innocence required for Clara.
I personally has no problem with Renee Flemming's acting and vocally, of course, she was in fine form.
Believe it or not, this was the first thing I'd ever seen Alex Jennings in. Loved the character. Likewise Liam Tamme, however despite how good he was in American Dancing, it's a shame he didn't have much more to do. Likewise Celinde Schoenmaker, who was (simply) outstanding.
I was trying to explain the plot to a colleague at work today and the complexities of the relationships.
Genuinely, so pleased that I got to see this.
I left the theatre wanting to back to Florence! Lol!
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Post by helso1 on Jun 27, 2019 10:04:18 GMT
Hi!
I would like to see this on Sunday and can get a restricted view seat in the stalls for £20. Would people go for this or wait for the TodayTix rush?
Many thanks :-)
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Post by theatrefan77 on Jun 27, 2019 10:20:34 GMT
I would go for restricted view for £20 if you can get it if the first few rows. When I tried Rush Tickets with TodayTix they were offering rear Stalls tickets row EE. You will need a telescope if you sit there
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Post by helso1 on Jun 27, 2019 10:23:20 GMT
I would go for restricted view for £20 if you can get it if the first few rows. When I tried Rush Tickets with TodayTix they were offering rear Stalls tickets row EE. You will need a telescope if you sit there Thank you! Been offered row F restricted view, so will go with that! :-)
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Post by mrkringas on Jun 27, 2019 11:25:38 GMT
Not really sure bad faith whataboutery is the pivot needed in a discussion around Adam Guettel.
It sometimes feels as if there is a comfort blanket around the London musical theatre scene. It emerges whenever conversations reference the wider political themes in a production. It almost always pops up around casting choices.
Conversations in this city on the form start from a different place than those with NY friends or the wider conversation and that makes me sad.
Re Piazza. Dove Cameron is charming and an interesting contrast with Kelli O'Hara. For anyone who saw the replacement Broadway cast and is aware of the casting controversy from out of town to Broadway they will know there was a clear shift back to original vision.
On Italian.... the two songs in question are fairly obvious as to what they are singing about. One even explains and translates. Rob Houchen left me in no doubt of his emotional arc with that aria.
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Post by theatrefan77 on Jun 27, 2019 12:39:14 GMT
I would go for restricted view for £20 if you can get it if the first few rows. When I tried Rush Tickets with TodayTix they were offering rear Stalls tickets row EE. You will need a telescope if you sit there Thank you! Been offered row F restricted view, so will go with that! :-) Enjoy!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 14:26:36 GMT
I would go for restricted view for £20 if you can get it if the first few rows. When I tried Rush Tickets with TodayTix they were offering rear Stalls tickets row EE. You will need a telescope if you sit there Thank you! Been offered row F restricted view, so will go with that! :-) We had row F at £20 following advice on here. They said restricted, but I took the seat furthest out just 2 in from the aisle and missed nothing at all. Absolute bargain.
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Post by helso1 on Jun 27, 2019 15:14:47 GMT
Thank you! Been offered row F restricted view, so will go with that! :-) We had row F at £20 following advice on here. They said restricted, but I took the seat furthest out just 2 in from the aisle and missed nothing at all. Absolute bargain. Oh that's great to hear, thank you! I went with it on the recommendations from the board! Will report back on Sunday!
Thanks again :-)
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