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Post by zak97 on May 27, 2017 11:45:17 GMT
Hmm Im in London middle of this week. Do I see this whilst Im there or wait for it to come close on an local run. Purely if you want to see a great cast, I'd say go now. Especially as you can score a bargain at TKTS or with upgrades.
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Post by shady23 on May 27, 2017 13:08:37 GMT
Sophie Louise-Dann, black widow of the West End, strikes again. End it. End it. Sorry
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Post by wickedgrin on May 27, 2017 13:10:40 GMT
I am surprised it did not find an audience. I did not like the show but then I thought being male I simply was not the target market. When I saw the show early in the run the 95% female audience (of a certain age) lapped it up.
I think it will struggle on tour too, quite honestly. The play Calendar Girls toured extensively and (as it proved in the WE) the subject has been done to death. No pun intended.
The WE cast are excellent but they will certainly need "names" on the tour. Although getting "names" to tour is exceeding difficult! You can't see Amanda Holden schlepping around the provinces!
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Post by anita on May 27, 2017 13:20:00 GMT
I am probably the intended target audience but I have absolutely no interest in seeing it.
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Post by shady23 on May 27, 2017 13:21:04 GMT
I agree with comments with marketing etc.
They needed to get more than Gary Barlow fans in.
The same will happen with The Band I expect.
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Post by shady23 on May 27, 2017 13:22:40 GMT
Although getting "names" to tour is exceeding difficult! You can't see Amanda Holden schlepping around the provinces! If you pay the money you get the stars. Look at Funny Girl! There's hardly a spare ticket to be found as a result.
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Post by vabbian on May 27, 2017 13:24:31 GMT
It wasn't a success because it does not appeal to those who most attend London theatre, families, rich OAP or the gays.
I thought it was good, but not worth a repeat viewing.
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Post by wickedgrin on May 27, 2017 13:30:58 GMT
If you pay the money you get the stars. Look at Funny Girl! There's hardly a spare ticket to be found as a result. Oh I agree. Unfortunately though this is just asking for the washed up ex-soap stars.... Regarding The Band - who can remember those boys now? I would not recognise them if I fell over them. Although the juke box nature of the material may save it?
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Post by anita on May 27, 2017 13:32:34 GMT
How many rich OAPs do you know vabbian because I don't know any?
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Post by wickedgrin on May 27, 2017 13:33:31 GMT
It wasn't a success because it does not appeal to those who most attend London theatre, families, rich OAP or the gays. Families certainly keep the family musicals afloat - Matilda, Aladdin etc. but I do think that predominantly women buy theatre tickets (and drag their husbands along sometimes) and I thought this would appeal to that demographic.
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Post by wickedgrin on May 27, 2017 13:35:10 GMT
How many rich OAPs do you know vabbian because I don't know any? I am a poor, gay OAP - that's a few boxes ticked!!
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Post by anita on May 27, 2017 13:37:31 GMT
I'm a poor straight OAP female but still didn't think much of the original film & don't think much of Gary Barlows music.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 27, 2017 14:24:00 GMT
If you pay the money you get the stars. Look at Funny Girl! There's hardly a spare ticket to be found as a result. Oh I agree. Unfortunately though this is just asking for the washed up ex-soap stars....Regarding The Band - who can remember those boys now? I would not recognise them if I fell over them. Although the juke box nature of the material may save it? Calling Denise Welsh... Wind In The Willows will be over and she'll be on the hunt for a career in musicals. She's also not shy about getting her norks out.
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Post by shady23 on May 27, 2017 14:29:25 GMT
I suspect Michelle Collins may be involved too!
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Post by zak97 on May 27, 2017 14:39:05 GMT
I suspect Michelle Collins may be involved too! To be fair she would be good for Marie
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 14:40:20 GMT
I suspect Michelle Collins may be involved too! To be fair she would be good for Marie Exactly what I was just going to post. No singing involved and she isn't a bad actrsss so could play that part very well. She's already done the play version too. Can see someone like Lesley Joseph as Jessie and Denise Van Outrn as Celia? Still hoping for Sharon D Clarke for Ruth too!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 14:44:54 GMT
If they are so talented Why did they go for such a substandard show It makes them look stupid in fact Actors need to work Actors like working in London where they can be at home and have some semblance of a normal life You obviously have no clue about actors Probably the most crass statement I have ever read on this board!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 15:13:20 GMT
If they are so talented Why did they go for such a substandard show It makes them look stupid in fact Actors need to work Actors like working in London where they can be at home and have some semblance of a normal life You obviously have no clue about actors Probably the most crass statement I have ever read on this board! And star in awful shows Which close after 5 months I don't take the first job that comes along my way With experience comes some automomy To be able to pick and choose Just because the show is in the WE Doesn't prevent or shield them from the indignity of a commercial flop and early closure
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 15:20:42 GMT
Actors need to work Actors like working in London where they can be at home and have some semblance of a normal life You obviously have no clue about actors Probably the most crass statement I have ever read on this board! And star in awful shows Which close after 5 months I don't take the first job that comes along my way With experience comes some automomy To be able to pick and choose Lucky old you!!! If you were an actor who played principal roles (as all the girls in The Girls are) you might realise that nice roles don't come along everyday of the week - especially for actors of a certain age in musicals - and that in order to pay their rent/mortgages etc actors have to act. If you assume that actors are flooded with offers left, right and centre all the time and are able to 'pick and choose', you are sadly deluded.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 15:25:39 GMT
And star in awful shows Which close after 5 months I don't take the first job that comes along my way With experience comes some automomy To be able to pick and choose Lucky old you!!! If you were an actor who played principal roles (as all the girls in The Girls are) you might realise that nice roles don't come along everyday of the week - especially for actors of a certain age in musicals - and that in order to pay their rent/mortgages etc actors have to act. If you assume that actors are flooded with offers left, right and centre all the time and are able to 'pick and choose', you are sadly deluded. As there are too many actors Market saturated And loads of them are rubbish Not my problem Offering them jobs by putting on naff shows So they have work Isn't the best idea
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 15:30:26 GMT
Lucky old you!!! If you were an actor who played principal roles (as all the girls in The Girls are) you might realise that nice roles don't come along everyday of the week - especially for actors of a certain age in musicals - and that in order to pay their rent/mortgages etc actors have to act. If you assume that actors are flooded with offers left, right and centre all the time and are able to 'pick and choose', you are sadly deluded. As there are too many actors Market saturated And loads of them are rubbish Not my problem Offering them jobs by putting on naff shows So they have work Isn't the best idea This is a job for them. They are also actors so obviously like performing. Why on earth would you turn down the chance to star on the West End? You are getting paid to do what you love. It would make no sense to turn down work unless you have other commitments or other stuff lined up. This also would allow them to be seen by casting directors and open up more doors. I doubt you would turn down the chance to appear in Londons Wesr End!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 15:52:27 GMT
😳 There are no words.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 16:12:33 GMT
😳 There are no words.
Perhaps you should review your post, @tomj. It's that attitude "Why would they turn down work" That has lead to a parade of awful shows in the first place Mainly musicals Which have failed to run 12 months Which we knew would never be a success from before they even opened Have had to paper and discount Despite positive press reviews Practically sycophantic in some cases And marketing/ appearing on TV shows to plug themselves Half empty at best Because NO ONE wants to see the show to start with If they are happy limping from one flop to the next Amazing for them But when people fail to turn up and the show makes a loss It can't be that rewarding from them Depends how desperate they are for work and how low they are prepared to drop their standards to appear in these awful shows As I said Not all actors grab the first thing they are offered Regardless of its quality If you want me to lie or pretend somehow in order to further massage the egos and fuel the greed of producers who are already deluded and out of touch I won't do it!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 16:16:14 GMT
😳 There are no words.
Perhaps you should review your post, @tomj. It's that attitude "Why would they turn down work" That has lead to a parade of awful shows in the first place Mainly musicals Which have failed to run 12 months Which we knew would never be a success from before they even opened Have had to paper and discount Despite positive press reviews Practically sycophantic in some cases And marketing/ appearing on TV shows to plug themselves Half empty at best Because NO ONE wants to see the show to start with If they are happy limping from one flop to the next Amazing for them But when people fail to turn up and the show makes a loss It can't be that rewarding from them Depends how desperate they are for work and how low they are prepared to drop their standards to appear in these awful shows As I said Not all actors grab the first thing they are offered Regardless of its quality If you want me to lie or pretend somehow in order to further massage the egos and fuel the greed of producers who are already deluded and out of touch I won't do it! Same situation with Bend it though wasn't it....
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 27, 2017 16:32:00 GMT
😳 There are no words.
Perhaps you should review your post, @tomj . It's that attitude "Why would they turn down work" Come on though @parsley it's not for actors to be quality controlling what ends up on the stage by refusing to appear in sh*t though is it.
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