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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 17:26:08 GMT
When he says he is interested in imagining life as it is when you scroll through your iPhone he sounds like a young man who spends far too much time on t’internet. And I would like to know of any female counterparts to Mullarkey - young women who are seen as “up and coming” and have already been allowed to have a flop in the Olivier. Not only that but to bounce back with another main stage show at another prestigious venue. |
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Post by foxa on Jul 18, 2018 8:06:00 GMT
Here's another interview with him. That he views St. George and the Dragon as his most positive theatrical experience shows a certain resilience. He actually sounds quite fun - if very blessed. www.standard.co.uk/go/london/theatre/rory-mullarkey-i-thought-the-royal-court-was-where-the-queen-lived-a3888486.htmlYes, about young women writers in big spaces.... there was a thread on Twitter by a quite well known female playwright (I've seen a couple of her plays in small spaces and bought the playscripts) who said she kept being told she isn't ready for a big space. In a partisan way, I was rooting for 'Genesis' at the Hampstead to be a success because that is a rare time when a British female playwright has been given that space - but, alas.... |
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Post by schuttep on Jul 18, 2018 8:06:55 GMT
I'm seeing this on Saturday.
Pity!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 8:23:09 GMT
I think this is the worst show I have seen so far this year. In fact I think it is the worst show I have seen since...St George and the Dragon. Depressing to see all the resources thrown at the production when they could have probably commissioned two more writers. His work must really sing on the page for producers to have so much faith in him. I enjoyed his first piece for the Court (Wolf from the Door?) but enough is enough. He needs to live more, read more, think more. This was part Kane’s Blasted (played as sit-com), part Monty Python (with a hell of a lot more dead birds) and a whole lot of Trumpton (Camberwick Green setting and all). To top it all I didn’t even get an ice cream.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 9:13:48 GMT
Rory Mullarkey seems really very jolly. And I know that no-one else did but I rather liked 'Saint George and the Dragon'. And I recall liking 'The Wolf From The Door' too with the delicious Anna Chancellor and some nudity from Calvin Demba if I recall correctly. Rory can stay and have as many plays as he likes. J'approve.
I don't know about anyone else but I must say that Parsley's review has made me want to see this play all the more now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 9:32:18 GMT
People may fnd it interesting to do the twitter search I referred to above - pity royalcourt (with no space).
Opening night tonight.
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Post by chameleon on Jul 18, 2018 9:49:56 GMT
People may fnd it interesting to do the twitter search I referred to above - pity royalcourt (with no space). Opening night tonight.
Twitter reaction should be taken with a big pinch of salt. It's usually 90% artists looking to play nice with the institution or big up their friends' work. Check the bios.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 10:17:32 GMT
People may fnd it interesting to do the twitter search I referred to above - pity royalcourt (with no space). Opening night tonight.
Twitter reaction should be taken with a big pinch of salt. It's usually 90% artists looking to play nice with the institution or big up their friends' work. Check the bios.
I do. Amazingly, you won’t believe it, but theatre connected people comment on the theatre that they see. Well, colour me surprised! I see people I know from the theatre world (know personally) regularly commenting on all sorts, it’s because they love it and like talking about it, for good or ill. Their views are closer to what transpires for me, it never lets me down. Of course, some may feel more kinship with parsley and fellow travellers. Up to them, I suppose, but they are of very limited use to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 10:32:39 GMT
I'm not necessarily cynical about *who's* saying things on Twitter, but I am cynical about people saying *anything* on Twitter. Most of my buddies don't like to comment on a bad show* - sometimes they're aware that their remarks will be visible to those involved, sometimes they're going by the "if you can't say anything nice" rule, sometimes they just don't want to give any more of their brain space to a bad show - so if I only see positive comments, that doesn't automatically mean it's a good show, it just means that anyone who's commenting on it liked it but with no indication as to whether that's the majority or minority view. Similar problem with negative comments: is this a genuinely bad show, or have I just discovered the sort of people who complain about anything and everything?
If someone I already have an established relationship with likes a show, then I can usually work out from how our opinions have meshed previously whether I'm likely to enjoy it or not, but there's not much point searching hashtags to see what random people you've never met and will never know have to say about it. That's why this board is so useful; we may not always agree, but we have the space and time to establish whose opinions often match your own, therefore whose opinions are going to be valuable to you.
*though if a show is TERRIBLE they might make an exception, because sometimes a show is so bad that it would be more unkind to *not* warn people away from it.
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Post by foxa on Jul 18, 2018 11:32:20 GMT
I only post about shows I have liked or an aspect of a show I have liked or found interesting on Twitter - and I think a lot of people do the same.
I won't say I liked something I didn't but I save my pans for here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 11:43:29 GMT
I have to add something to my statement about this in the interests of honesty: I have a feeling that younger people may love this. There were only a couple of walk outs when I saw it and quite a few young people in the audience seemed to be having the time of their lives. A few audience members had faces like thunder! The cast were fantastic and the effects were well done. The script was weak and puerile but It wouldn’t surprise me if this got raves. Would I recommend it? Let’s just say that you won’t be bored.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 11:58:03 GMT
They don’t really count
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 12:04:25 GMT
I only post about shows I have liked or an aspect of a show I have liked or found interesting on Twitter - and I think a lot of people do the same. I won't say I liked something I didn't but I save my pans for here. I only post to any great degree on things that I loved or hated. Quite often on things that I loved which others hated or hated that others loved. I see the same on twitter. The middle ground just gets tumbleweed. The Writer, to take an important example, had both great and incandescent tweets and the positive balance of them were reflective of my own opinions. People can only comment on their own experience. I find most comments on this board to be of no use to me because we are too different. In fact, anything beyond the mainstream that gets some people fulminating on here is actually likely to make me more positive on it. That’s not to say that comments here aren’t interesting, because they are, even if at times ill informed and reactionary but, if I want to see if I should or shouldn’t book something, it’s twitter over this board that is vastly more reflective at each point of my own taste. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 12:12:42 GMT
I only post about shows I have liked or an aspect of a show I have liked or found interesting on Twitter - and I think a lot of people do the same. I won't say I liked something I didn't but I save my pans for here. I only post to any great degree on things that I loved or hated. Quite often on things that I loved which others hated or hated that others loved. I see the same on twitter. The middle ground just gets tumbleweed. The Writer, to take an important example, had both great and incandescent tweets and the positive balance of them were reflective of my own opinions. People can only comment on their own experience. I find most comments on this board to be of no use to me because we are too different. In fact, anything beyond the mainstream that gets some people fulminating on here is actually likely to make me more positive on it. That’s not to say that comments here aren’t interesting, because they are, even if at times ill informed and reactionary but, if I want to see if I should or shouldn’t book something, it’s twitter over this board that is vastly more reflective at each point of my own taste. No one forcing you to post here Or to read the forum |
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Post by jadnoop on Jul 18, 2018 12:31:08 GMT
I only post to any great degree on things that I loved or hated. The reality is that that's the nature of the internet in general. A platform that's built around getting as many people to like your comment as quickly as possible (like Twitter) inevitably pushes content creators towards extreme opinions and short/snappy dialogue. Like newspaper headlines but without any actual main text which might include the nuances. Messageboards like this one obviously don't push the 'low word count' as strongly as twitter, but IMO there's still a tendency towards shorter and more polarising opinions. I find most comments on this board to be of no use to me because we are too different. IMO this is down to the wide and scattered nature of the users. With a traditional reviewer, they're consistently writing their opinions on a whole range of theatre. This means that over a period of time you get to know whose opinions line up with your own, and consequently whose reviews you 'trust'. On this messageboard, the fact that commenters & comments are more scattered means that it's less straight forward to get a decent understanding of each persons tastes - outside of those people who stick out to you. There probably are TB users whose viewpoints would line up well with yours, you just haven't found them yet. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 12:37:41 GMT
I only post to any great degree on things that I loved or hated. Quite often on things that I loved which others hated or hated that others loved. I see the same on twitter. The middle ground just gets tumbleweed. The Writer, to take an important example, had both great and incandescent tweets and the positive balance of them were reflective of my own opinions. People can only comment on their own experience. I find most comments on this board to be of no use to me because we are too different. In fact, anything beyond the mainstream that gets some people fulminating on here is actually likely to make me more positive on it. That’s not to say that comments here aren’t interesting, because they are, even if at times ill informed and reactionary but, if I want to see if I should or shouldn’t book something, it’s twitter over this board that is vastly more reflective at each point of my own taste. No one forcing you to post here Or to read the forum Straw man, that isn’t my view as I made clear. What people say here is invariably interesting but not particularly useful for me as an individual. Other places are more useful but, even then, only to a degree. EDIT: jadnoop, there are posters whose tastes match my own to a greater degree and that’s interesting as you can see what connects you. Nowhere near 100% but how could it be? In the end, you can’t trust that you would like or hate anything just because someone else did. |
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Post by nash16 on Jul 18, 2018 12:51:03 GMT
Twitter reaction should be taken with a big pinch of salt. It's usually 90% artists looking to play nice with the institution or big up their friends' work. Check the bios.
I do. Amazingly, you won’t believe it, but theatre connected people comment on the theatre that they see. Well, colour me surprised! I see people I know from the theatre world (know personally) regularly commenting on all sorts, it’s because they love it and like talking about it, for good or ill. Their views are closer to what transpires for me, it never lets me down. Of course, some may feel more kinship with parsley and fellow travellers. Up to them, I suppose, but they are of very limited use to me. Chameleon is right though. You're very rarely going to see people, especially theatre people, slamming a show they've seen. They're more likely to stay silent. The rare ones that are honest about bad shows tend not to tag in the theatre, director etc. Those that want the jobs tag and praise. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 12:27:31 GMT
I do. Amazingly, you won’t believe it, but theatre connected people comment on the theatre that they see. Well, colour me surprised! I see people I know from the theatre world (know personally) regularly commenting on all sorts, it’s because they love it and like talking about it, for good or ill. Their views are closer to what transpires for me, it never lets me down. Of course, some may feel more kinship with parsley and fellow travellers. Up to them, I suppose, but they are of very limited use to me. Chameleon is right though. You're very rarely going to see people, especially theatre people, slamming a show they've seen. They're more likely to stay silent. The rare ones that are honest about bad shows tend not to tag in the theatre, director etc. Those that want the jobs tag and praise. Theatre connected people definitely won’t slam their mate’s work and they don’t have recourse to silence because their friends will read that as a comment in itself. |
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 19, 2018 14:14:43 GMT
I wonder why there are no press reviews of this yet. Wasn't last night the press night?
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Post by foxa on Jul 19, 2018 15:13:03 GMT
Did 'Allelujah' have the same press night? Did that push 'Pity' out?
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 19, 2018 15:23:14 GMT
They both had press nights last night so maybe there is second press night tonight for Pity.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 17:16:03 GMT
I wonder why there are no press reviews of this yet. Due to the size of the theatre and demand, they regularly have two press nights, and ask that reviews are embargoed until after the second one. That is the case for this one, and it's noted in the press pack. I am anticipating the reviews for this |
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Post by nash16 on Jul 19, 2018 21:27:48 GMT
Pity embargoed until tomorrow.
God help it...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 21:48:42 GMT
@parsley , dare I ask what the story was? Jacqueline Wilson “Girls out late” For a bit I love children’s audio So interesting and I dip and out as know whole chunks off by heart Part of it is the narrator Who bring the story to life in a way reading a novel can’t do And then some old Sue Townsend “The Queen and I” |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 22:26:57 GMT
“That got me noticed by the Royal Court, which I’d never heard of and presumed was where the Queen lived”
From an interview with the playwright
In the ES
Where do they find these utter idiots ?
Almost as if they scout for bad talent
At the moment
Both the shows playing at the RC
Are so badly written
Is this really the pinnacle of new theatre
Fresh writing
These were the cream of the crop?
I really really doubt it
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