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Post by Backdrifter on Jan 16, 2019 21:00:44 GMT
If it's "just a play", then why are you here commenting? Obviously you must find some interest in the comments to take the time to write it all down. Yes, I do. As I already said, I'm enjoying them. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jan 16, 2019 21:44:05 GMT
Twickets is face value (or is for music - I haven't tried it for theatre). The issue is that it doesn't look like the NT are putting returns back on sale. Normally, when I've returned a ticket I've seen it pop up on their seat map a few minutes later so someone else can buy it - very useful for those of us who have to travel and need to book far in advance. That's not happenng with this. It seems this time they're holding any returns back for day seats which is no good to anyone except Londoners. It's really annoying and I hope it doesn't set a precedent. There has to be some perk for living in smelly expensive overcrowded London! Maybe this is it. |
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Post by Ade on Jan 16, 2019 22:42:28 GMT
Ok... so I have little positive to say about this. And when I say ‘little’ I’m still trying to think of something. I’ve never seen anything by Crimp before and if this is anything to go by I won’t bother again. It’s an absolute mess of a play, and not in a good way. Don’t ask me what it was really about because I’ve not really any idea. It seems more concerned with finding ways to spray water, blood, shaving foam around the place than to really find any depth in the characters. It’s a shame because at its core Cate Blanchett and Stephen Dillane are doing their very best to try and improve the material. The other four largely didn’t need to be there.
I was facing the stage in the top tier so had a nice clear view but because of the shape of the proscenium I do wonder what the sightlines are like nearer the stage at the top. Admittedly they had some seats blocked off but still...
And for those who were asking there was no sign of ID checks beforehand.
Have to give a mention to the FOH team who did have to carry someone out half way through with far less disturbance and noise than your average punter unwrapping a sweet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 22:48:54 GMT
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Post by lynette on Jan 16, 2019 23:28:15 GMT
Not another play chucking blood etc round the stage. At this rate we shall need to wear a big plastic mac in the stalls.
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Post by nash16 on Jan 17, 2019 1:41:55 GMT
I don't think the NT have got time for ID checks, checking accounts, proving addresses, names, etc etc. They've barely got through having a ballot/s. It states on their site people need to have the card the tickets was purchased on and ID when attending, and that goes for day tickets too. Yes, but what I'm saying is they won't have time to be asking for extra ID. All they'll want is the card that the tickets were paid for with. So basically don't worry about extra ID. |
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Post by drmaplewood on Jan 17, 2019 8:43:59 GMT
Ok... so I have little positive to say about this. And when I say ‘little’ I’m still trying to think of something. I’ve never seen anything by Crimp before and if this is anything to go by I won’t bother again. It’s an absolute mess of a play, and not in a good way. Don’t ask me what it was really about because I’ve not really any idea. It seems more concerned with finding ways to spray water, blood, shaving foam around the place than to really find any depth in the characters. It’s a shame because at its core Cate Blanchett and Stephen Dillane are doing their very best to try and improve the material. The other four largely didn’t need to be there. I was facing the stage in the top tier so had a nice clear view but because of the shape of the proscenium I do wonder what the sightlines are like nearer the stage at the top. Admittedly they had some seats blocked off but still... And for those who were asking there was no sign of ID checks beforehand. Have to give a mention to the FOH team who did have to carry someone out half way through with far less disturbance and noise than your average punter unwrapping a sweet. A friend of a friend said very similar and that though there was the Cate novelty, it wears off very quickly. Eeek. |
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Post by crowblack on Jan 17, 2019 9:39:08 GMT
he only ones in control of distribution is what I was getting at. Yes, though the main objection to ticket resale sites is the idea that they are ripping off the public, charging several times the face value for events that are already sold out. In Twickets' case, they are face value so they are doing the public a service, especially where venues don't accept returns or don't accept returns 48 hours or less before an event. The NT's system has previously been one of the best of al theatres I've encountered, returns accepted at face value and immediately put back on sale. For this play, though, it looks like they are withholding returns and saving them for day tickets which isn't a public service. It's a national theatre but is excluding non-Londoners from the chance of getting tickets. On the upside, if the play is as bad as early reports suggest it's no longer something I'm going to be kicking myself for missing out on. |
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Post by kathryn on Jan 17, 2019 9:40:38 GMT
This is getting some people very excited on Twitter!
Actually, I wonder if this is partly why they’ve decided not to NT Live it? This sort of content would find difficulty getting mainstream distribution if it was in a film - there’s all sorts of issues with various international ratings boards.
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Post by viserys on Jan 17, 2019 9:54:32 GMT
It's a national theatre but is excluding non-Londoners from the chance of getting tickets. Yea, but it gives all us foreigners, who were completely excluded from the ballot a fighting chance to get in. I'm not trying, mind, but if I were a massive Blanchett fan, I'd know now that I could book a weekend trip to London and get a dayseat. As could non-Londoners by the way. This simply rewards people who want to get in most badly. Actually, I wonder if this is partly why they’ve decided not to NT Live it? This sort of content would find difficulty getting mainstream distribution if it was in a film - there’s all sorts of issues with various international ratings board That makes sense. I guess it's also different for the performers to show themselves in front of a small live audience (sitting in the dark) or have it all exposed on screen across the world. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 10:19:39 GMT
Yes I'm with viserys on this one day seats seems the most 'fair' for those who can't drop everything on the whim of getting a ticket, but are determined. I've no horse in this race, but if i was desperate for a ticket, as an out of towner, the 'camp on the doorstep' seems the 'fairest' in terms of determination etc. Also what can I say I'm old school I like a good dayseat queue. |
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Post by shelbee on Jan 17, 2019 10:22:08 GMT
Ok... so I have little positive to say about this. And when I say ‘little’ I’m still trying to think of something. I’ve never seen anything by Crimp before and if this is anything to go by I won’t bother again. It’s an absolute mess of a play, and not in a good way. Don’t ask me what it was really about because I’ve not really any idea. It seems more concerned with finding ways to spray water, blood, shaving foam around the place than to really find any depth in the characters. It’s a shame because at its core Cate Blanchett and Stephen Dillane are doing their very best to try and improve the material. The other four largely didn’t need to be there. I was facing the stage in the top tier so had a nice clear view but because of the shape of the proscenium I do wonder what the sightlines are like nearer the stage at the top. Admittedly they had some seats blocked off but still... And for those who were asking there was no sign of ID checks beforehand. Have to give a mention to the FOH team who did have to carry someone out half way through with far less disturbance and noise than your average punter unwrapping a sweet. It's funny you say you don't know what's it about. Reading reviews on twitter, it seems only Cate Blanchett fans liked it. But her fans are not really saying anything about the play, just about her. Thanks for the info! |
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Post by Backdrifter on Jan 17, 2019 10:31:29 GMT
It's funny you say you don't know what's it about. Reading reviews on twitter, it seems only Cate Blanchett fans liked it. But her fans are not really saying anything about the play, just about her. Thanks for the info! I've only seen one positive comment so far, a tweet saying "it's brilliant" and "she's amazing" then saying she wants to go to the platform "coz I want to understand it." I suppose there was always likely to be a significant element of excited CB fans glossing over the play not being very meaningful. Or any good. |
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Post by shelbee on Jan 17, 2019 10:41:07 GMT
It's funny you say you don't know what's it about. Reading reviews on twitter, it seems only Cate Blanchett fans liked it. But her fans are not really saying anything about the play, just about her. Thanks for the info! I've only seen one positive comment so far, a tweet saying "it's brilliant" and "she's amazing" then saying she wants to go to the platform "coz I want to understand it." I suppose there was always likely to be a significant element of excited CB fans glossing over the play not being very meaningful. Or any good. "I want to understand it"....but have no idea what I just saw...LOL! Those type of comments are useless because they're just happy they were in the same room as Cate Blanchett. |
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Post by wiggymess on Jan 17, 2019 10:52:16 GMT
This is getting some people very excited on Twitter! Actually, I wonder if this is partly why they’ve decided not to NT Live it? This sort of content would find difficulty getting mainstream distribution if it was in a film - there’s all sorts of issues with various international ratings boards. It's fine - the same tweeter seems to have clarified this morning that {Spoiler - click to view}
she wasn't wearing the strap-on while she was kissing the woman, but used it afterwards to penetrate a man.
I wasn't expecting to be writing that when I woke up this morning. I have to admit the furore on this forum about the ticketing makes this even more amusing. I wonder if this post will last long...  |
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Post by crowblack on Jan 17, 2019 10:52:43 GMT
This simply rewards people who want to get in most badly. But for that you need to have a lot of spare money and no home responsibilities (children, old people, pets). For me, Saturday matinees are do-able, but not much else, and the local station on Saturday is full of families doing the matinee or evening show Sat/return Sun London trip. |
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Post by alexandra on Jan 17, 2019 11:04:27 GMT
Not another play chucking blood etc round the stage. At this rate we shall need to wear a big plastic mac in the stalls. I blame Thomas Ostermeier (with whose work Mitchell and Hill-Gibbons will certainly be familiar). |
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Post by peggs on Jan 17, 2019 11:36:36 GMT
Blood?! Well that's replaced snow as my main concern. In a Richard ii almeida way Ade or more realistic? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 11:39:05 GMT
This simply rewards people who want to get in most badly. But for that you need to have a lot of spare money and no home responsibilities (children, old people, pets). For me, Saturday matinees are do-able, but not much else, and the local station on Saturday is full of families doing the matinee or evening show Sat/return Sun London trip. I honestly don't understand this comment (or the wider debate to be honest) theatre tickets, and the ability to go and a more broadly speaking 'accessible theatre' are not the same thing. On one hand yes there is a responsibility to provide affordable and relatively easy to purchase tickets across the board for a theatre like the NT. On the other it's not the NT's fault that I live in Cardiff not Southwark, or that you have kids/old people/pets and can't get to it's sold-out show on the one day it has a return. Also I know some would argue but seeing Cate Blanchett wielding a dildo also isn't strictly a necessity in life either. |
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Post by shelbee on Jan 17, 2019 11:58:54 GMT
But for that you need to have a lot of spare money and no home responsibilities (children, old people, pets). For me, Saturday matinees are do-able, but not much else, and the local station on Saturday is full of families doing the matinee or evening show Sat/return Sun London trip. I honestly don't understand this comment (or the wider debate to be honest) theatre tickets, and the ability to go and a more broadly speaking 'accessible theatre' are not the same thing. On one hand yes there is a responsibility to provide affordable and relatively easy to purchase tickets across the board for a theatre like the NT. On the other it's not the NT's fault that I live in Cardiff not Southwark, or that you have kids/old people/pets and can't get to it's sold-out show on the one day it has a return. Also I know some would argue but seeing Cate Blanchett wielding a dildo also isn't strictly a necessity in life either. The only argument you'll get out of me, is no one said it's a necessity. Life would be boring if we didn't do anything because we didn't need to. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 12:01:24 GMT
I honestly don't understand this comment (or the wider debate to be honest) theatre tickets, and the ability to go and a more broadly speaking 'accessible theatre' are not the same thing. On one hand yes there is a responsibility to provide affordable and relatively easy to purchase tickets across the board for a theatre like the NT. On the other it's not the NT's fault that I live in Cardiff not Southwark, or that you have kids/old people/pets and can't get to it's sold-out show on the one day it has a return. Also I know some would argue but seeing Cate Blanchett wielding a dildo also isn't strictly a necessity in life either. The only argument you'll get out of me, is no one said it's a necessity. Life would be boring if we didn't do anything because we didn't need to. What's the first rule of theatreboard...oh wait that's nobody speaks about theatreboard. The second, is assume sarcasm until told otherwise. |
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Post by crowblack on Jan 17, 2019 12:04:34 GMT
I honestly don't understand this comment It's the line about "wanting to go most badly." There have been things I have been desperate to see over the years but for various reasons - long term illness, caring responsibilities, distance, money (always a biggie) I haven't been able to. It's not about the strength of my desire, it's about practicalities. It's the slightly religious/19thc novel notion that if you want something hard enough it will happen - the use of the word "reward" for your desire. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 13:27:19 GMT
I honestly don't understand this comment It's the line about "wanting to go most badly." There have been things I have been desperate to see over the years but for various reasons - long term illness, caring responsibilities, distance, money (always a biggie) I haven't been able to. It's not about the strength of my desire, it's about practicalities. It's the slightly religious/19thc novel notion that if you want something hard enough it will happen - the use of the word "reward" for your desire. While Viserys is obviously able to speak for herself, should she choose to 'defend' that...I really don't feel that's what was meant. It is more a notion of 'well day seats is one way for those who are hell bent on getting tickets to try' As this thread has many many times illustrated whatever way a theatre goes about trying to distribute tickets for sold out/hard to get shows will not please everyone. And I think I have to agree to disagree. I've long ago resigned myself to the fact living out of London, being perpetually broke means I miss out. If I was in London, and could camp out on theatre doorsteps, or drop everything and go to the theatre after work, sure life would be better. But that's equally like complaining I wasn't a teenager in New York when the original cast of Rent was on Broadway- I'm not any less devoted to them, any less of a fan...but also i don't have a time machine. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 13:27:45 GMT
On the other it's not the NT's fault that I live in Cardiff not Southwark That isn't what you tweeted about them after they rejected your last play, though... What passed between me and Rufus in those emails should never have been made public.... |
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Post by crowblack on Jan 17, 2019 13:41:37 GMT
I really don't feel that's what was meant. It's how it came across. Maybe needs rephrasing? I can see from Twitter there are people booking flights to London in the hope of getting day seats since hearing it has Blanchett half-naked with a strap-on. |
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