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Post by danb on Feb 19, 2024 19:24:51 GMT
Would they recast do we think if it doesn’t work out?
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Post by matttom0901 on Feb 19, 2024 19:31:12 GMT
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Post by viserys on Feb 19, 2024 19:41:29 GMT
Simon Oskarsson. I saw him on Saturday evening after Donal was on for the matinee. He was okay. I heard from two people independently that Donal was struggling during the week and cracked more than once on the lalalalaas, whereas Simon didn't crack and did a good job, especially considering he can't have had that much rehearsal time yet. I think they might want to take Donal out for a few days longer so he's fully rested for opening night. |
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Post by andrew on Feb 19, 2024 20:08:22 GMT
Don't forget that the rehearsal and early previews can be very intense for the cast and crew, running it through multiple times a day for weeks on end, he may well be perfectly up to the role and just struggling with this first bit of it. Totally agree with others though that I'm not feeling enticed having seen the fairly flawless original NT cast to see what sounds like more of a mixed bag at the sweltering Lyric.
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Post by danb on Feb 19, 2024 20:35:29 GMT
When DEH first opened, Sam Tutty was very vocally tired and really struggled. I didn’t think about how many times he might have run it that week. He was much better subsequently.
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Feb 19, 2024 21:17:58 GMT
Would they recast do we think if it doesn’t work out? recast?? what a cruel thing to say when as andrew has mentioned they’ve been doing very intense rehearsals whilst also starting to perform the show. other cast members have said Dónal is ill, maybe remember that performers are indeed human beings working hard and get sick, before throwing around accusations that they’re ‘not good enough’ |
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Post by danb on Feb 19, 2024 21:35:48 GMT
Would they recast do we think if it doesn’t work out? recast?? what a cruel thing to say when as andrew has mentioned they’ve been doing very intense rehearsals whilst also starting to perform the show. other cast members have said Dónal is ill, maybe remember that performers are indeed human beings working hard and get sick, before throwing around accusations that they’re ‘not good enough’ …and if you then read my next post you’ll see me remember a time that it has happened before and how it was ok. Didn’t need the lecture thanks. |
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Post by ntherooh on Feb 19, 2024 23:40:54 GMT
Anyone know why the guitar part of We Raise Our Cups isn’t played by Orpheus in London?
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Feb 19, 2024 23:42:38 GMT
Anyone know why the guitar part of We Raise Our Cups isn’t played by Orpheus in London? Simon didn't play it tonight, but someone I know went last week and he did play it, so not sure if they're just trialling various bits? |
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Post by nash16 on Feb 19, 2024 23:50:49 GMT
From the cast board tonight it looks like Dónal Finn is off again. Are the tote bags back? Dónal was replaced with a tote bag tonight, but they refused to sell the bag in the foyer afterwards. |
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Post by curiouskc on Feb 19, 2024 23:53:25 GMT
Would they recast do we think if it doesn’t work out? Honestly, as soon as the Wyndham's Next to Normal run finishes in September they need to snap up Jack Wolfe for Orpheus. For whatever reason, Orpheus does seem to be a really hard role to cast well, but I think Jack would be perfect. But in the meantime, I hope Finn improves. |
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Post by matttom0901 on Feb 20, 2024 12:33:09 GMT
Would they recast do we think if it doesn’t work out? recast?? what a cruel thing to say when as andrew has mentioned they’ve been doing very intense rehearsals whilst also starting to perform the show. other cast members have said Dónal is ill, maybe remember that performers are indeed human beings working hard and get sick, before throwing around accusations that they’re ‘not good enough’ Unfortunately it is a tough and ruthless industry which has no room for mediocrity (or at least shouldn't). If the main cast is not up for the task they will very likely be recast (I am not talking about being off sick, that happens. I am talking about not being able to sing the songs you are meant to.) The previews are very important because they set up the entire run. Can you imagine this happening on Broadway? It would close after a month, if not sooner. Just look at what happened to ALW's Cinderella. |
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Feb 20, 2024 12:58:05 GMT
recast?? what a cruel thing to say when as andrew has mentioned they’ve been doing very intense rehearsals whilst also starting to perform the show. other cast members have said Dónal is ill, maybe remember that performers are indeed human beings working hard and get sick, before throwing around accusations that they’re ‘not good enough’ Unfortunately it is a tough and ruthless industry which has no room for mediocrity (or at least shouldn't). If the main cast is not up for the task they will very likely be recast (I am not talking about being off sick, that happens. I am talking about not being able to sing the songs you are meant to.) The previews are very important because they set up the entire run. Can you imagine this happening on Broadway? It would close after a month, if not sooner. Just look at what happened to ALW's Cinderella. that is… not how contracts work… if they’re not performing well then they wouldn’t be extended of course, but no producer is going to terminate a contract early because they miss a few previews (for illness, again, may I add) to name one example, mean girls broadway had a standby learn a role she didn’t cover during previews and the principal didn’t get fired, the show didn’t close straight after previews, and in fact is about to open in the west end! people in this thread seem to have forgotten that performers are humans🤔 |
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Post by danb on Feb 20, 2024 13:21:44 GMT
None of us know anything about the industry and all believe that performers are robots. We also lack any compassion. 2 posts in and you’re being quite incisive Mrs Finn.
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Post by max on Feb 20, 2024 13:21:59 GMT
I wouldn't read too much into anything at this preview stage. I remember some said Jamie Parker was struggling in previews of 'Next To Normal' but into the run I thought he was the best thing in it. Partly due to the writing, the character most required to act through song.
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Post by max on Feb 20, 2024 13:24:35 GMT
recast?? what a cruel thing to say when as andrew has mentioned they’ve been doing very intense rehearsals whilst also starting to perform the show. other cast members have said Dónal is ill, maybe remember that performers are indeed human beings working hard and get sick, before throwing around accusations that they’re ‘not good enough’ Unfortunately it is a tough and ruthless industry which has no room for mediocrity (or at least shouldn't). If the main cast is not up for the task they will very likely be recast (I am not talking about being off sick, that happens. I am talking about not being able to sing the songs you are meant to.) The previews are very important because they set up the entire run. Can you imagine this happening on Broadway? It would close after a month, if not sooner. Just look at what happened to ALW's Cinderella. It did happen on Broadway with the first casting of 'Funny Girl's. She still made it through, though with probable shortened first contract by mutual agreement. |
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Feb 20, 2024 13:41:03 GMT
None of us know anything about the industry and all believe that performers are robots. We also lack any compassion. 2 posts in and you’re being quite incisive Mrs Finn. yes saying someone should be fired for missing 3 performances does completely lack compassion i’m glad you see sense  |
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Post by BVM on Feb 20, 2024 13:51:29 GMT
I feel quite sure people are reading too much into this. In my opinion Donal will be back and everything will be fine. There are a cornucopia of reasons actors can be off which are generally none of our business (though of course I recognise the frustration of wanting to see someone who has not appeared!)
Before the internet we wouldn't even have known and there wouldn't be any of this speculation. Previews are a settling in period for everyone and everything (and leading into that other debate, yes, for this reason they should be cheaper - but producers will always charge what they can, so that sadly is that!). Let's wait for a decent chunk of time to pass before we judge.
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Post by danb on Feb 20, 2024 14:23:17 GMT
None of us know anything about the industry and all believe that performers are robots. We also lack any compassion. 2 posts in and you’re being quite incisive Mrs Finn. yes saying someone should be fired for missing 3 performances does completely lack compassion i’m glad you see sense I merely asked the question. This is a big new show for London and one would hope that they had cast someone that could sing it with ease from the get-go. If not they should do all they can to get him there. I never once used the word ‘fired’ nor anything so melodramatic, and quite frankly all you are doing is drawing attention to the issue. That is all. Now I’m off to drown some kittens or something of equal malevolence. |
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Post by partytentdown on Feb 20, 2024 14:33:45 GMT
Poor chap could have a bad cold or anything! Give him a minute!
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Post by hamiltonstradition on Feb 20, 2024 15:52:27 GMT
yes saying someone should be fired for missing 3 performances does completely lack compassion i’m glad you see sense I merely asked the question. This is a big new show for London and one would hope that they had cast someone that could sing it with ease from the get-go. If not they should do all they can to get him there. I never once used the word ‘fired’ nor anything so melodramatic, and quite frankly all you are doing is drawing attention to the issue. That is all. Now I’m off to drown some kittens or something of equal malevolence. On Broadway we were subjected to Reeve Carney's shrill vocals for 2+ years post-pandemic. They've been in rehearsals for 2+ months now, if it really wasn't working out they would've recast ages ago. |
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Post by Being Alive on Feb 20, 2024 16:02:16 GMT
Also every single person I know in London has this awful cold/cough so like, give him a break 😂
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Post by moonoverwater on Feb 20, 2024 16:46:42 GMT
I wouldn't read too much into anything at this preview stage. I remember some said Jamie Parker was struggling in previews of 'Next To Normal' but into the run I thought he was the best thing in it. Partly due to the writing, the character most required to act through song. I’ve heard some of the audio from the performance before I saw it, and I was struck by the differences in Grace’s Eurydice. Previews are, after all, for trying new things! @therewillbesun - thank you so much for your kindness, I’m doing a lot better  |
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Post by Dave B on Feb 20, 2024 22:28:26 GMT
Full cast on tonight for first of two press nights.
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Post by Dave B on Feb 20, 2024 23:18:04 GMT
If anyone could get me a badge I'll be ever so grateful! My better half was told to take a few as it was the last night they were being given out. Drop me a private message with your details and I can pop one off in the mail (probably next week, rest of my week is busy!). |
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