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Post by Boob on Jan 4, 2019 14:54:55 GMT
I don’t think the recurring “stars” are the problem per se - more the smug and lazy writing they’re forced to deliver. It now feels totally in love with itself and, as a result, becomes a victim of its own success. I can’t begin to express how disappointed I was by Snow White, especially after loving Dick Whittington so much the year before.
Won’t be going again unless there’s a drastic improvement.
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Post by stagey on Jan 4, 2019 19:36:13 GMT
I don’t think the recurring “stars” are the problem per se - more the smug and lazy writing they’re forced to deliver. It now feels totally in love with itself and, as a result, becomes a victim of its own success. I can’t begin to express how disappointed I was by Snow White, especially after loving Dick Whittington so much the year before. Won’t be going again unless there’s a drastic improvement. I do agree regarding the script. But I feel like Nigel and Paul don’t need to be back again and could be used somewhere else. It just seems to be kind of repetitivenow
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Post by carmella1 on Jan 5, 2019 1:28:52 GMT
Just call it "Julian Clary's Christmas Innuendo Variety Show" presented by the London Palladium.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jan 5, 2019 9:25:05 GMT
The Palladium Panto has clearly become an annual tradition again, and given the massive success of this year I would like to bet that many of the principles have already been signed up again for the next Christmas season. I nearly wrote next year but realised that it was actually later THIS year!! So I would expect to see Julian, Gary, Paul and Nigel again. They will try and book another star female along the lines of Amanda, Elaine and Dawn who has not done panto before to complete the formula.
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Post by Dr Tom on Jan 5, 2019 10:11:17 GMT
The Palladium Panto has clearly become an annual tradition again, and given the massive success of this year I would like to bet that many of the principles have already been signed up again for the next Christmas season. I nearly wrote next year but realised that it was actually later THIS year!! So I would expect to see Julian, Gary, Paul and Nigel again. They will try and book another star female along the lines of Amanda, Elaine and Dawn who has not done panto before to complete the formula. I’m sure there was a line, something like “we’ll see you next year” when I saw it, suggesting the same regulars would be back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 16:01:50 GMT
The Palladium Panto has clearly become an annual tradition again, and given the massive success of this year I would like to bet that many of the principles have already been signed up again for the next Christmas season. I nearly wrote next year but realised that it was actually later THIS year!! So I would expect to see Julian, Gary, Paul and Nigel again. They will try and book another star female along the lines of Amanda, Elaine and Dawn who has not done panto before to complete the formula. I’m sure there was a line, something like “we’ll see you next year” when I saw it, suggesting the same regulars would be back. Yeah definitely. When Julian made his first entrance he went something like .... same crowd as last year... he even singled someone out and jokingly said something along the lines of ...... oh you have, changed your hair since last year.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jan 9, 2019 15:03:50 GMT
So I concurred last night with most of the audience around me (who like me it seemed had seen both Cinderella and Dick Whittington) that although they enjoyed the show it wasn't as good as previous years.
The production values for this are simply stunning great sets and FABULOUS costumes. The winter wonderland theme worked very well (although forgotten about in the second act) producing some stunning ensemble numbers in white and blue in the first act and a gorgeous opening to Act 2 "At the Palace" in fuchsia and gold. Some of the ensemble numbers resembled a Las Vegas show - including a full production number for Nigel Havers.
Julian Clary's costumes are worth the price of admission alone - just unbelievable. Paul Zerdin is a class act as is Gary Wilmot and Nigel Havers (hugely popular) worked his socks off with many costume changes and entrances and exits throughout the show. Charlie Stemp was excellent as was Danielle Hope - although she had little to do.
So of course an enjoyable evening at a very special theatre but...….
Although it was a pleasure to see the delightful Dawn French in the flesh - she was badly miscast as the Wicked Queen and not as much fun as Elaine Paige last year.
Vincent and Flavia were totally unnecessary ( as non speaking ghosts with only about 6 minutes stage time) with a tepid waltz in the first half but a rather stunning tango in the second.
The acrobats should have also been cut and more time given to the dwarfs who the audience loved.
Julian Clary seemed tired - those costumes must be heavy! Plus I did feel that the double entendre/innuendo was taken a little too far at times - I don't mind a double meaning - so when asked by Stemp where he could recommend for a date to take Snow White - Clary replied "Well I've been taken up the Shard" and asked where Stemp had gone at one point replied "He's just shot off up a dark passage". However, there were certain remarks which were just crude and not especially funny. Example - Nigel Havers is (in the plot) Julian's understudy and Julian remarks that he is going to be "off" tomorrow as he has a sore throat and said " I blame the third chorus boy from the left". I know humour is subjective but I found this just to be crude as there is no "clean" meaning.
I do think it needs a bit of a shake up for next year, but the box office suggests otherwise! When Dawn castigated Julian at one point saying the audience hadn't paid £8000 a ticket for this filth Julian replied "It's what they save up for all year isn't it?" A huge roar went up in the theatre!!
I did have a good evening but 4 stars this year rather than 5!
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Post by westended on Jan 10, 2019 19:45:41 GMT
Is there an offical Instagram page for the Production?
@snow_white_ldn is “claiming” to be the official account however, it seems rather sketchy, not verified and doesn’t use the same fonts/graphics as Twitter! Should I stay away from the account?
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Post by gmoneyoutlaw on Jan 11, 2019 1:31:26 GMT
I hope it's really raunch on Sunday night as I'll be there front and center to see Julian and Charlie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 3:20:56 GMT
Is there an offical Instagram page for the Production? @snow_white_ldn is “claiming” to be the official account however, it seems rather sketchy, not verified and doesn’t use the same fonts/graphics as Twitter! Should I stay away from the account? That is not an official account. Just a fan account.
To my Knowledge the show has no Instagram account. Just facebook and twitter.
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Post by partytentdown on Jan 11, 2019 22:28:56 GMT
1. Yes. Can't remember the language, but there was enough bad language in the rest of the show it didn't really have an impact. 2. Kids 3 and 4 were obviously plants. Kids 1 and 2, less obvious. One of the giveaways (apart from the bad acting) is that there were practically no kids in the building and certainly none in the area where "dad" was meant to be sitting. Saw this tonight and remembered this thread... We only had three kids tonight and the girl was called Ruby. Have they changed it?!
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Post by tcodd1 on Jan 11, 2019 23:00:45 GMT
1. Yes. Can't remember the language, but there was enough bad language in the rest of the show it didn't really have an impact. 2. Kids 3 and 4 were obviously plants. Kids 1 and 2, less obvious. One of the giveaways (apart from the bad acting) is that there were practically no kids in the building and certainly none in the area where "dad" was meant to be sitting. Saw this tonight and remembered this thread... We only had three kids tonight and the girl was called Ruby. Have they changed it?! On Wednesday evening there were 4 children (2 boys and 2 girls). No Connie as others have posted, but I think one girl was Ruby, and the other (who Paul kept on calling men’s names, sang the song really fast and supposedly didn’t have a present at the end - but was then brought one) was called Evie.
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Post by musicalmarge on Jan 11, 2019 23:06:02 GMT
I loved it last night but I’m now bored of the same cast. Next year needs a seriously shake up and completely new cast.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jan 11, 2019 23:31:38 GMT
Next year needs a seriously shake up and completely new cast. I agree but I wouldn't hold your breath! House full signs outside the Palladium for almost the entire run!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 23:54:06 GMT
Next year needs a seriously shake up and completely new cast. I agree but I wouldn't hold your breath! House full signs outside the Palladium for almost the entire run! Yeah I agree. All you have to do is read the comments of the social media posts of the show. People love Julian, Nigel & Paul. I'd say highly unlikely the cast will change and to be honest I don't mind if it doesn't change. What bothers me more is if they don't change the script. Keep Nigel if they have to but have him as a stand alone Character not the understudy crap for a 4th year. Also for me personally Julian looked bored as hell when I saw it. His performance was definitely phoned in so maybe they themselves are bored of it now. The definitely need two or three new faces next year. Dawn french was grand but she wasn't enough to keep it fresh.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jan 12, 2019 0:01:41 GMT
Julian looked bored as hell when I saw it. His performance was definitely phoned in so maybe they themselves are bored of it Yes, he certainly looked tired when I saw it. It must be an exhausting marathon twice daily with all those costume changes when he is not on. They looked fabulous but extremely heavy and cumbersome - it looked like he could hardly move in some of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 0:08:31 GMT
Julian looked bored as hell when I saw it. His performance was definitely phoned in so maybe they themselves are bored of it Yes, he certainly looked tired when I saw it. It must be an exhausting marathon twice daily with all those costume changes when he is not on. They looked fabulous but extremely heavy and cumbersome - it looked like he could hardly move in some of them. oh gosh yeah. He is incredible to be able wear those twice daily and do what he does.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 0:31:20 GMT
Julian has done around 5 weeks solid of shows so is likely to be fairly knackered and if the costumes are heavy they would take some effort to wear given that Julian is a fairly light build. Plus don't forget that he is 60 this year so he's not getting any younger.
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Post by partytentdown on Jan 12, 2019 15:05:29 GMT
Can someone with more time than me do a spreadsheet that calculates which of the kids were plants? Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 16:53:29 GMT
On sale Spring 2019.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 19:13:06 GMT
^It's been in the programme since the star of the run. I heard, but wanted to post it for those of us who couldn't catch it this time around.
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Post by romeo94 on Jan 13, 2019 1:00:16 GMT
Some £20 standing tickets have appeared for the final performance tomorrow
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Post by Tibidabo on Jan 13, 2019 8:39:13 GMT
which of the kids were plants? I think Connie was a Venus fly catcher and Ruby a triffid.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jan 13, 2019 11:45:47 GMT
I suspect all the kids were from a stage school and performed on a rota like the kids do in Matilda or Annie. It was terribly slick when I saw it. They knew the song/rhyme without even looking at the words. Genuine kids are much slower in their responses.
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Post by musicalmarge on Jan 13, 2019 12:48:45 GMT
I suspect all the kids were from a stage school and performed on a rota like the kids do in Matilda or Annie. It was terribly slick when I saw it. They knew the song/rhyme without even looking at the words. Genuine kids are much slower in their responses. The kids were PLANTS? Noooooo.....
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