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Post by theatremadness on Mar 11, 2016 13:53:13 GMT
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 11, 2016 14:17:21 GMT
Pushed, if I'm reading between the lines correctly.
Which I'm probably not....
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Post by theatremadness on Mar 11, 2016 14:39:47 GMT
No, I think you may be onto something there Mr. Bear!
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 11, 2016 16:06:54 GMT
I always got on well with Michael - but it is further indication that WOS is a spent force. Their coverage is now so slow and patchy as to be close to worthless.
A shame after I gave so much to them over a long time period.
Hey ho
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Post by mrcurry on Mar 11, 2016 18:24:20 GMT
Did he touch someone's bum ?
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 11, 2016 19:11:29 GMT
Random question, Does he wear makeup?
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 11, 2016 23:24:12 GMT
Reading between the lines it does look like he was shoved under a bus, just like us. He leaving excuse I joined 10 years ago in April, so thought it would be cool to leave in April after 10 years.
Which is sad as with the decline of publications and a reliance on the net we are ever losing quality art content and criticism.
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Post by paul on Mar 12, 2016 23:37:30 GMT
RIP Whatsonstage
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Post by Snciole on Mar 13, 2016 14:02:57 GMT
Reading between the lines it does look like he was shoved under a bus, just like us. He leaving excuse I joined 10 years ago in April, so thought it would be cool to leave in April after 10 years. Which is sad as with the decline of publications and a reliance on the net we are ever losing quality art content and criticism. I wonder if, like us, Coveney was too critical and it was affecting relationships with stakeholders? It will be interesting to see who his replacement is and the tone of their reviews. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 13, 2016 19:14:50 GMT
Tick tock
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 19:45:34 GMT
Reading between the lines it does look like he was shoved under a bus, just like us. He leaving excuse I joined 10 years ago in April, so thought it would be cool to leave in April after 10 years. Which is sad as with the decline of publications and a reliance on the net we are ever losing quality art content and criticism. Don't go looking for it in The Stage, either. It seems to have been overrun by teenagers. A headline I saw recently went something like: "Can we all stop banging on about the violence in Cleansed?" 'Banging on', really?! A lot of their other content these days seems to be either specious arguments, or round-ups of opinions about key topics in the theatrical world - "A and B said this, and C backs them up, but X and Y disagree. One thing's for sure, it's a hot topic!" Um, yeah, thanks, I can read the opinions of A, B etc for myself. What do YOU think, Stage writer?! That's what I'm interested in. Probably these outlets need to pay their subs and editors enough to actually attract the talent and experience that can make copy shine, and indeed challenge writers to up their game when necessary. But hey, why bother when everyone else is worshipping at the altar of youth, which will produce a few hundred words practically for free? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 19:54:05 GMT
Natasha Tripney is in her mid-thirties I would have thought (apologies to her if adding on a few years), so that sort of characterisation is wildly inaccurate.
So go ahead and complain about the roundups and such but why the added ageism?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 21:02:59 GMT
Using 'banging on' in a headline certainly isn't something I'd expect from a serious, experienced writer. Clearly tilted to the youth market, so I was being mildly hyperbolic. I do seem to remember they published a piece by a young blogger and had to give Terri Paddock right of reply? The first couple of screengrabbed tweets are just the sort of thing I'm talking about. www.thestage.co.uk/opinion/2015/terri-paddock-offended-no-id-like-set-record-straight/ Again - the blogger may not be 18, but no experienced writer pens an article based on very few facts. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 21:06:46 GMT
Always worth remembering the writer doesn't necessarily write the headline, of course...
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Post by mallardo on Mar 14, 2016 7:10:59 GMT
The writer never writes the headline.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 8:07:15 GMT
Yes - in my editorial experience, hardly ever, anyway!
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Post by partytentdown on Mar 14, 2016 11:20:56 GMT
Reading between the lines it does look like he was shoved under a bus, just like us. He leaving excuse I joined 10 years ago in April, so thought it would be cool to leave in April after 10 years. Which is sad as with the decline of publications and a reliance on the net we are ever losing quality art content and criticism. What lines are you all reading between? |
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 14, 2016 12:14:02 GMT
That his leaving explanation was very lame and he isn't leaving to move on to newer and richer pastures.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 13:55:37 GMT
Yes - in my editorial experience, hardly ever, anyway! So then, why didn't you rant against The Stage employing teenage sub-editors if that's what the voices are telling you? Er - I believe I mentioned subs...? |
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Post by partytentdown on Mar 14, 2016 17:04:20 GMT
That his leaving explanation was very lame and he isn't leaving to move on to newer and richer pastures. I mean I dislike WOS with the best of them, but hasn't he stated he wants to go and write more books? Seems fair enough after a decade of late nights. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 17:29:05 GMT
I mean I dislike WOS with the best of them, Not all of us hate WhatsOnStage. They funded us for over a decade. Give them that. When they had a party a couple of years ago to announce their new website and the merger with TheaterMania the moderators were invited, and the WhatsOnStage team were all very friendly and optimistic about the future. Terri Paddock described the merger as a marriage. Well, we all know how that turned out. If it was a marriage it was one of those frighteningly weird ones where the police keep turning up and where the eventual reports in the newspapers contain words like "spattered" and "torso". So on the whole I'm OK with WhatsOnStage, even though they did ignore us for the final year. My opinion of TheaterMania is less positive. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 17:31:48 GMT
On the one hand, it wouldn't surprise me if he had been pushed rather than voluntarily stepping down, but on the other hand, I don't see how anyone could conclusively say he was definitely pushed just from the statement.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 14, 2016 17:34:02 GMT
That his leaving explanation was very lame and he isn't leaving to move on to newer and richer pastures. I mean I dislike WOS with the best of them, but hasn't he stated he wants to go and write more books? Seems fair enough after a decade of late nights. I did say I could be reading between the lines incorrectly but it just reads like the sort of thing large organisations put out about someone whose been dropped or moved aside. A teeny bit too eager to explain and a load of info that we neither expect, want or need about the persons reasons and future plans. People retire all the time. All he needed to do was say a cheery goodbye at the end of his final review. |
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Post by Snciole on Mar 14, 2016 22:36:59 GMT
I agree, he could just in denial that he is retirement age but it read like a voluntary redundancy acceptance, at best. I just don't think Coveney would leave the security of What's On Stage to write books, and occasionally write reviews for WOS(!?), Who is going to buy them? Us!?
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