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Post by oxfordsimon on Feb 28, 2018 15:45:27 GMT
Yes indeed. Cheek by Jowl produced the best ever Tempest (the Russian one). That was the only Tempest I have ever enjoyed. Great opening storm and plenty of madness with the Masque and the scene with Caliban, Stephano and Trinculo in the shopping mall. Plus I didn't have to be that bothered by the text - I have never found any sympathy for any character in The Tempest (other than Arial!) |
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Post by alexandra on Feb 28, 2018 15:50:59 GMT
Yes indeed. Cheek by Jowl produced the best ever Tempest (the Russian one). That was the only Tempest I have ever enjoyed. Great opening storm and plenty of madness with the Masque and the scene with Caliban, Stephano and Trinculo in the shopping mall. Plus I didn't have to be that bothered by the text - I have never found any sympathy for any character in The Tempest (other than Arial!) I was incredibly struck by Miranda in that production. She was so feral...as she would be. And clearly anxious about separating from Caliban at the end. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Feb 28, 2018 15:55:18 GMT
That was the only Tempest I have ever enjoyed. Great opening storm and plenty of madness with the Masque and the scene with Caliban, Stephano and Trinculo in the shopping mall. Plus I didn't have to be that bothered by the text - I have never found any sympathy for any character in The Tempest (other than Arial!) I was incredibly struck by Miranda in that production. She was so feral...as she would be. And clearly anxious about separating from Caliban at the end. I dug out my review and I did note the parting of Miranda and Caliban as a very special moment. Can't believe it was 7 years ago! |
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Post by turbo25 on Feb 28, 2018 16:54:20 GMT
Saw this last night. Rufus obviously had his regional accent score card out..this really ran the gamut. Pretty much everyone in the bar at interval was ticking them off...
In my eyes this is quite a fail. Admittedly we can hope that the poor lighting and slack pacing will be corrected during the preview period, but the design concept (is this Mad Max?) is baffling, and the whole thing seems (to me) quite painfully over-worked and over-staged. Goodness gracious, so much ACTING - ("the sheer ACTING of Meryl Streep") - the witches speaking backwards, running around or hobbling about like 3rd year drama students, the horrific rave/party scene, Banquo staggering around constantly...poor Anne Marie Duff wearing an ill fitting plastic frock...plus a neverending soundscape grumbling on in the background...enough with the bass clarinet and the "reclaimed" instruments already!
I really wanted to love this. Macbeth can be terribly exciting if it's whipped through at pace. I just think that this version was over-thought...my advice - calm down, let it speak for itself, and do it at top speed!
Oh and of course...lose the Porter.
Ah well Rufus, keep trying.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 17:18:30 GMT
Danny Sapani and Monica Dolan by Cheek by Jowl at the Arcola. Best by a mile, exceptional leads. Paid 10 pence to be shown the Macduff bodies. Then thought, belatedly: what am I doing? Out Of Joint actually wasn’t it - Max Stafford-Clark. Saw it at Wilton’s Music Hall, which was a great venue for it; being hassled by gun toting African militia, happening on some sort of withcraft ceremony on the balcony, assorted random sofas as the seating inside the Macbeth compound and much more. Sapani was pretty terrifying. |
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Post by peggs on Feb 28, 2018 18:08:17 GMT
A plastic frock?!
What is the gore rating like for this please? Though sounds like may be driven mad long before that becomes an issue.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Feb 28, 2018 18:43:29 GMT
Saw this last night. Rufus obviously had his regional accent score card out..this really ran the gamut. Pretty much everyone in the bar at interval was ticking them off... In my eyes this is quite a fail. Admittedly we can hope that the poor lighting and slack pacing will be corrected during the preview period, but the design concept (is this Mad Max?) is baffling, and the whole thing seems (to me) quite painfully over-worked and over-staged. Goodness gracious, so much ACTING - ("the sheer ACTING of Meryl Streep") - the witches speaking backwards, running around or hobbling about like 3rd year drama students, the horrific rave/party scene, Banquo staggering around constantly...poor Anne Marie Duff wearing an ill fitting plastic frock...plus a neverending soundscape grumbling on in the background...enough with the bass clarinet and the "reclaimed" instruments already! I really wanted to love this. Macbeth can be terribly exciting if it's whipped through at pace. I just think that this version was over-thought...my advice - calm down, let it speak for itself, and do it at top speed! Oh and of course...lose the Porter. Ah well Rufus, keep trying. Rave / party scene? Oh dear. How does it compare to the dreadful one at the start of Everyman ? |
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Post by jasper on Feb 28, 2018 18:51:05 GMT
Saw this last night. Rufus obviously had his regional accent score card out..this really ran the gamut. Pretty much everyone in the bar at interval was ticking them off... In my eyes this is quite a fail. Admittedly we can hope that the poor lighting and slack pacing will be corrected during the preview period, but the design concept (is this Mad Max?) is baffling, and the whole thing seems (to me) quite painfully over-worked and over-staged. Goodness gracious, so much ACTING - ("the sheer ACTING of Meryl Streep") - the witches speaking backwards, running around or hobbling about like 3rd year drama students, the horrific rave/party scene, Banquo staggering around constantly...poor Anne Marie Duff wearing an ill fitting plastic frock...plus a neverending soundscape grumbling on in the background...enough with the bass clarinet and the "reclaimed" instruments already! I really wanted to love this. Macbeth can be terribly exciting if it's whipped through at pace. I just think that this version was over-thought...my advice - calm down, let it speak for itself, and do it at top speed! Oh and of course...lose the Porter. Ah well Rufus, keep trying. What I want to know is were the witches pole dancing as implied in the photos on the nationals website? Although they seem to have disappeared from there for some reason. Here they are. lovelondonloveculture.com/2018/02/02/inside-the-rehearsals-of-macbeth-national-theatre/ |
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Post by Ade on Feb 28, 2018 19:19:52 GMT
Saw this last night. Rufus obviously had his regional accent score card out..this really ran the gamut. Pretty much everyone in the bar at interval was ticking them off... In my eyes this is quite a fail. Admittedly we can hope that the poor lighting and slack pacing will be corrected during the preview period, but the design concept (is this Mad Max?) is baffling, and the whole thing seems (to me) quite painfully over-worked and over-staged. Goodness gracious, so much ACTING - ("the sheer ACTING of Meryl Streep") - the witches speaking backwards, running around or hobbling about like 3rd year drama students, the horrific rave/party scene, Banquo staggering around constantly...poor Anne Marie Duff wearing an ill fitting plastic frock...plus a neverending soundscape grumbling on in the background...enough with the bass clarinet and the "reclaimed" instruments already! I really wanted to love this. Macbeth can be terribly exciting if it's whipped through at pace. I just think that this version was over-thought...my advice - calm down, let it speak for itself, and do it at top speed! Oh and of course...lose the Porter. Ah well Rufus, keep trying. Rave / party scene? Oh dear. How does it compare to the dreadful one at the start of Everyman ? I was about to say the same thing. Did he not learn his lesson?! |
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Post by crowblack on Feb 28, 2018 20:13:28 GMT
Quite a few seats available over the next few days, unsurprisingly. Good pickings cancellation-wise if you live in London (Network too).
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Post by peggs on Feb 28, 2018 21:08:31 GMT
Rave / party scene? Oh dear. How does it compare to the dreadful one at the start of Everyman ? And I was doing quite well forgetting that, this has potentially taken on a new horror! |
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Post by callum on Feb 28, 2018 23:49:08 GMT
A plastic frock?! What is the gore rating like for this please? Though sounds like may be driven mad long before that becomes an issue. Not particularly gruesome - only a coating of blood following murders and the goriest moments, the dual beheadings, are not that gory at all. |
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Post by Snciole on Mar 1, 2018 10:47:12 GMT
It did give me Everyman vibes, but to be honest Everyman wasn't that great so I haven't remembered a ton of it. Kinnear/Stephen Boxer's red suit and the Norris's weird "Go higher, MUST go higher" approach to fill the Olivier stage.
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Post by nash16 on Mar 1, 2018 11:26:52 GMT
#congagate
#speakingwordsbackwardsgate
It almost looks like a mocumentary.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 1, 2018 12:04:45 GMT
Speaking backwards, raving, carrier bags on heads (did the NT pay 5p per carrier) ... gutted I didn’t get a ticket for this
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Post by turbo25 on Mar 1, 2018 12:05:44 GMT
#congagate #speakingwordsbackwardsgate It almost looks like a mocumentary. It really does!! I figured out the speaking backwards bit in the 2nd act..."Thebcam.....thebcam...." - lord, such nonsense. Poor attempt at Twin Peaks... |
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Post by turbo25 on Mar 1, 2018 12:08:02 GMT
What I want to know is were the witches pole dancing as implied in the photos on the nationals website? Although they seem to have disappeared from there for some reason. Here they are. lovelondonloveculture.com/2018/02/02/inside-the-rehearsals-of-macbeth-national-theatre/ They do climb poles quite a lot, but there is no pole dancing unfortunately....doesn't really make much sense. Most likely the poles are meant to look like those things they have at Glastonbury...or something, I dunno...who can possibly say... |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 1, 2018 12:45:55 GMT
the poles are a cheap way of filling the stage? ... or they represent the greasy pole a person can climb in life. gedit?
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Post by peggs on Mar 1, 2018 14:14:48 GMT
Thanks callum for gore update. Having watched that video what on earth?! Does remind me of everyman and since I loathed that it bodes just brilliantly, I feel my niece's view of Macbeth that it is stupid could well be most useful. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 10:06:57 GMT
There is bad
Then there is awful
Then there is terrible
Then you have Rufus Norris
This utter pile of sh*te
Has confirmed the man is incapable of directing anything
The fact he can’t even offer a half decent Shakespeare and his lack of any experience with this playwright as a director
Says it all
In a way it’s good all these Macbeth’s have come along at the same time
It will give the RSC a chance to shine with their version
The concepts and staging of their production is quite quite something
And let’s face it
Their two leads really make Duff and Kinnear seem rather Insignificant
If the arts media wanted any ammunition to mock and belittle Norris
He has given it to them on a silver platter
With a knife and fork ready to attack
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 10:25:32 GMT
There is bad Then there is awful Then there is terrible Then you have Rufus Norris This utter pile of sh*te Has confirmed the man is incapable of directing anything The fact he can’t even offer a half decent Shakespeare and his lack of any experience with this playwright as a director Says it all In a way it’s good all these Macbeth’s have come along at the same time It will give the RSC a chance to shine with their version The concepts and staging of their production is quite quite something And let’s face it Their two leads really make Duff and Kinnear seem rather Insignificant If the arts media wanted any ammunition to mock and belittle Norris He has given it to them on a silver platter With a knife and fork ready to attack I can't actually tell whether you've seen it or not... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 13:55:03 GMT
Probably just the first half, if anything.
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Post by martin1965 on Mar 3, 2018 14:13:05 GMT
There is bad Then there is awful Then there is terrible Then you have Rufus Norris This utter pile of sh*te Has confirmed the man is incapable of directing anything The fact he can’t even offer a half decent Shakespeare and his lack of any experience with this playwright as a director Says it all In a way it’s good all these Macbeth’s have come along at the same time It will give the RSC a chance to shine with their version The concepts and staging of their production is quite quite something And let’s face it Their two leads really make Duff and Kinnear seem rather Insignificant If the arts media wanted any ammunition to mock and belittle Norris He has given it to them on a silver platter With a knife and fork ready to attack And a warm welcome back to Mr Sunshine! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 14:30:38 GMT
Too many Mary Sunshines don’t make for a very balanced view of things... We need a few ‘baddies’ on the board, and remember: That there's a little bit of good In everyone In everyone you'll ever know Yes, there's a little bit of good In everyone Though many times, it doesn't show It only takes a taking time With one another For under every mean veneer Is someone warm and dear Keep looking... For that bit of good in everyone The ones you call bad Are never all bad So try to find that little bit of good Just a little, little bit of good Is someone warm and dear Keep looking... For that little good in everyone Although you meet rats They're not complete rats So try to find that little bit of good!  |
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Post by andromedadench on Mar 3, 2018 16:12:10 GMT
There is bad Then there is awful Then there is terrible Then you have Rufus Norris This utter pile of sh*te Has confirmed the man is incapable of directing anything The fact he can’t even offer a half decent Shakespeare and his lack of any experience with this playwright as a director Says it all In a way it’s good all these Macbeth’s have come along at the same time It will give the RSC a chance to shine with their version The concepts and staging of their production is quite quite something And let’s face it Their two leads really make Duff and Kinnear seem rather Insignificant If the arts media wanted any ammunition to mock and belittle Norris He has given it to them on a silver platter With a knife and fork ready to attack You need to pen a 2019 Edinburgh Fringe one man show called ''The Good, the Bad and the Rufus Norris''. |
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