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Post by dazzerlump on Jan 24, 2018 18:24:41 GMT
I was so excited for this and then I realised it was the play? or a new version of the play.. I hope the musical gets a revival sometime!
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Post by Deal J on Jan 25, 2018 6:59:14 GMT
Andrew Apprentice & Courtney Act...?  |
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Post by Deal J on Jan 31, 2018 6:57:05 GMT
Samuel Barnett as Molina and Declan Bennett as Valentin. Thankfully my earlier suggestion didn't come to anything  I got the email this morning and still managed to get momentarily excited thinking that the musical was coming... |
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Post by alece10 on Jan 31, 2018 7:51:17 GMT
You need actors with a real connection for Molina and Valentin. For some reason I wonder whether Samuel Barnett might not be a good choice for Molina - he can do the camp and the heartbreaking. He is the right sort of age And then for Valentin, I looked at who Barnett is known to work well - and that brought me to Dominic Cooper - but not so sure about him. Well you got one of the 2 right. 😁 |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jan 31, 2018 10:30:40 GMT
You need actors with a real connection for Molina and Valentin. For some reason I wonder whether Samuel Barnett might not be a good choice for Molina - he can do the camp and the heartbreaking. He is the right sort of age And then for Valentin, I looked at who Barnett is known to work well - and that brought me to Dominic Cooper - but not so sure about him. Well you got one of the 2 right. 😁 So I did! |
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Post by ali973 on Jan 31, 2018 11:02:19 GMT
This is supposed to happen in a Latin American country. The guys they've selected are blatantly white. And I hate it when they cast Molina as a pretty boy or a twink. They've just handled this so wrong in every possible way and went down a very conventional route.
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Post by crowblack on Jan 31, 2018 11:08:26 GMT
Well predicted! I've just booked. |
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Post by che1978 on Jan 31, 2018 12:16:19 GMT
This is supposed to happen in a Latin American country. The guys they've selected are blatantly white. And I hate it when they cast Molina as a pretty boy or a twink. They've just handled this so wrong in every possible way and went down a very conventional route. This play takes place in Argentina. According to Wikipedia "most Argentines are descendants of these 19th and 20th century immigrants, with about 97% of the population being of European or partial European descent", which means they are Caucasian... |
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Post by princeton on Jan 31, 2018 13:08:24 GMT
I’ve never seen the play - but I recall that in the novel and the film Molina identifies as a woman. Given that we live in far more enlightened times regarding trans matters than when previous versions were staged - it will be interesting to see what difference this makes to how the play is performed and received - especially given that this is a new adaptation. Interesting that the Menier website says it’s a tale of ‘two strikingly different men’ so perhaps in this version the character isn’t a trans woman or maybe it’s inadvertent misgendering - which is a particularly live issue at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 14:38:11 GMT
Pah. And I had money on Ricky Martin too.
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Post by littlesally on Feb 1, 2018 12:35:50 GMT
Pah. And I had money on Ricky Martin too. Or Alfonso Herrera! |
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Post by anita on Feb 1, 2018 14:55:52 GMT
I thought this was a musical?
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Post by anita on Feb 1, 2018 14:57:42 GMT
Sorry - just read the thread & seen it's not the Kander & Ebb one.
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Post by alexandra on Mar 14, 2018 11:50:17 GMT
No-one seen this yet?
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Post by dontdreamit on Mar 14, 2018 23:05:44 GMT
I’ve just come back from seeing it. It was absolutely brilliant, I didn’t expect to enjoy it as much as I did. As an aside, when I was leaving I heard the people in front of me say that they’d thought it was the musical and had very surprised when it had started and it wasn’t! |
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Post by alece10 on Mar 14, 2018 23:43:41 GMT
Saw it tonight too.
Staging and set are excellent.
Well acted.
I'm not really a play person so my mind wandered a few times but that's me rather than the play.
Be interested to hear what others think when they see it.
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Post by adventurer on Mar 15, 2018 6:05:52 GMT
Saw this on Tuesday. Really enjoyed it. Samuel Barnett excellent as Molina. V good set and direction too, and my mind didn’t wander once, due to the captivating performances by the leads. No interval,1 hour 40 mins straight through. Well worth a trip.
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Post by noboiscout on Mar 15, 2018 14:10:22 GMT
I still find it hard to pay £40 for a play, whether West End or Off. But thanks for the reviews alece10 and adventurer. I am tempted.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 15, 2018 14:16:59 GMT
I still find it hard to pay £40 for a play, whether West End or Off. But thanks for the reviews alece10 and adventurer. I am tempted. You can buy a ticket for 24£ on TodayTix, there's a 30% discount |
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Post by david on Mar 15, 2018 21:02:11 GMT
Glad to hear it’s getting positive reviews. Initially wasn’t going to book for this, but I thought I would take a punt on it. Made up that it is a no interval play meaning I can zip back up to Euston straight after and get my train back up north.
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Post by damnfew on Mar 17, 2018 12:55:17 GMT
I bought a ticket to see tonight's performance. I also am a huge fan of the musical, but the casting looks great and the positive notices on the board convinced me to see the play. Excited to see what the Menier team does with it! Others have also said the production design and performances are stellar.
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Post by n1david on Mar 18, 2018 19:36:35 GMT
I was there last night, and I appreciated this greatly, but I do think it was a production I respected rather than loved. I thought the two performances were fantastic, and it's a compelling story (somehow I have managed to avoid previous productions of the play and the musical, the film and the original book).
It's beautifully done, the set is impressive and the staging is perfect - the evocation of the movies that Molina relates is marvellous - but for some reason I didn't fall in love with it.
It may be a problem with the Menier - I haven't been for a while, and I was back in row G, which felt like a long way from the performance (although it's only 7 rows), and boy those seats are tight, so if you're my size (not a waif but not huge either) you're spending the whole production silently negotiating with your neighbours about where to put your arms.
But this is really very good.
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Post by dontdreamit on Mar 18, 2018 19:51:17 GMT
I’ve just booked a ticket for the closing night. I was really taken by this production when I saw a preview last week and have reread the book (it’s got to be 20 years + since I last read it) in the days since. I’m interested to see how the performances develop over the run- both were absoluty compelling!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 21:11:05 GMT
I was there last night, and I appreciated this greatly, but I do think it was a production I respected rather than loved. . Agree 100%. I was also on row G but with four spare seats either side of us. If I had known, we would have shuffled down! I struggled to connect emotionally with it even though I thought it was beautifully staged and acted. I did find the guard a weak link, and her performance was notches and notches below the leads. Hadn’t been to the Menier before, I thought it was an interesting space (if very hot!) Having seen part of The Inheritance a couple of days before, seeing this and reading about Jose Rivera’s creative process, I could ‘t help but wish that Lopez had taken the same approch! |
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Post by showgirl on Mar 19, 2018 4:40:31 GMT
I'm interested in seeing this but knew nothing of the plot (never seen the film or musical, nor can I recall why I chose not to), so I looked online for a summary and ended up very confused. Maybe I happened to find a version which wasn't that helpful, but is the story really as baffling and convoluted as it sounds, please, as if so, I'm not sure I'd be able to follow what was going on?
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