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Post by jasper on Mar 4, 2018 17:20:53 GMT
I am confused as to how dropping a towel shows someone is American. Do American men have some other appendage to show they are American?
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Post by Mark on Mar 4, 2018 17:21:53 GMT
Anyone know the location of the todaytix rush tickets?
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Post by theatrelover123 on Mar 4, 2018 17:28:30 GMT
Anyone know the location of the todaytix rush tickets? Many of them are in the high up gallery small uncomfortable seats |
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 4, 2018 17:38:10 GMT
I am confused as to how dropping a towel shows someone is American. Do American men have some other appendage to show they are American? American men tend to be circumcised... |
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Post by Jon on Mar 4, 2018 18:29:06 GMT
For those who's seen Part 1 and also read Howards End, which characters are parallel to each other. I'm putting my comparison in spoilers: Eric - Margaret
Walter - Ruth
Toby - Helen
Adam - Tibby
Henry Wilcox -Henry
Leo - Leonard
My guess that Vanessa Redgrave's character in Part 2 is going to be either going be a version of Miss Avery or an older Margaret from Howards End |
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Post by sf on Mar 4, 2018 22:47:53 GMT
Given the parallels to Howards End which are hard to explain without spoilers, I do wonder how Part 2 is going to unfold. ...which reminds me to read it again before I see the plays next month. Or at least watch the film, which (fortunately) is on Netflix. |
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Post by theatrelover123 on Mar 4, 2018 23:03:04 GMT
Given the parallels to Howards End which are hard to explain without spoilers, I do wonder how Part 2 is going to unfold. ...which reminds me to read it again before I see the plays next month. Or at least watch the film, which (fortunately) is on Netflix. I didn’t see it on Netflix when I looked  |
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Post by sf on Mar 4, 2018 23:09:47 GMT
...which reminds me to read it again before I see the plays next month. Or at least watch the film, which (fortunately) is on Netflix. I didn’t see it on Netflix when I looked Look again. It's definitely there. I've got the start page for it up on the TV screen right now. |
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Post by jasper on Mar 5, 2018 10:12:17 GMT
I am confused as to how dropping a towel shows someone is American. Do American men have some other appendage to show they are American? American men tend to be circumcised... So do most Muslims and all Jews, so how does that show he is American? I wonder what the audition for the role was like. |
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 5, 2018 10:28:22 GMT
American men tend to be circumcised... So do most Muslims and all Jews, so how does that show he is American? I wonder what the audition for the role was like. I think brian2018 was making a joke based on the fact that the actor is indeed American. |
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Post by Dr Tom on Mar 5, 2018 10:33:20 GMT
American men tend to be circumcised... So do most Muslims and all Jews, so how does that show he is American? I wonder what the audition for the role was like. Note to self - trying to make light about nudity will just be treated sarcastically. I suspect the audition included checking his looks and definition were suitable for the role and that he was willing to participate in a nude scene. No more performances of Part 1 this week, so will be interesting to hear if any changes are made (although the Part 2 previews are next). |
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Post by profquatermass on Mar 5, 2018 11:03:48 GMT
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Post by crowblack on Mar 5, 2018 11:13:14 GMT
I have slated in a viewing of Howards End before I see part two I'm hopefully seeing the two-play day of this next weekend - followed by Kiss of the Spider Woman, if I can keep my eyes open. The recent four part BBC adaptation of Howards End is on Youtube, screenplay by Manchester by the Sea's Kenneth Lonergan. In many ways it's better than the Merchant-Ivory version, particularly with Leonard and Jacky Bast, much stronger characters here than in the film, and Helen and Tibby are more well-rounded here too, though I think it goes too far in trying to romanticise the Wilcoxes, toning down their darkness to make the relationship more palatable. There's a powerful section in the novel involving a cat which they miss out altogether. Btw, don't let the first 15 minutes put you off - Tracey Ullmann is too panto-ish, I think, but she's mostly absent from the rest of it, and the music beds in more. |
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Post by jasper on Mar 5, 2018 11:57:04 GMT
So do most Muslims and all Jews, so how does that show he is American? I wonder what the audition for the role was like. Note to self - trying to make light about nudity will just be treated sarcastically. I suspect the audition included checking his looks and definition were suitable for the role and that he was willing to participate in a nude scene. No more performances of Part 1 this week, so will be interesting to hear if any changes are made (although the Part 2 previews are next). No gender blind casting then. |
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 5, 2018 13:31:04 GMT
Helen and Tibby are more well-rounded here too That is surely the very first time anyone has ever accused our Tibidabo of being well-rounded! |
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Post by Tibidabo on Mar 5, 2018 15:54:14 GMT
That is surely the very first time anyone has ever accused our Tibidabo of being well-rounded! Wrong! Only this morning I was accused of being a right barrel of laughs.... |
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Post by Dr Tom on Mar 9, 2018 20:40:09 GMT
Part 2 first preview, announced at 3 hours 45 minutes with two intervals.
Compelling so far!
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Post by Jon on Mar 9, 2018 21:10:14 GMT
Part 2 first preview, announced at 3 hours 45 minutes with two intervals. Compelling so far! How is Vanessa Redgrave? |
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Post by Dr Tom on Mar 9, 2018 23:45:12 GMT
Finished bang on 11pm.
Different to part 1, with a different character focus and without the writing theme. More compelling I think, didn’t want it to end. Similar staging to part 1.
A few twists along the way, one I thought was telegraphed but it got about two minutes of delayed “oohs” as the penny dropped with different members of the audience.
Ending, not as emotional as part 1 but a good close to wrap everything up.
No nudity (just getting that out of the way). There is a party scene with tight swimming trunks involved.
Vanessa Redgrave doesn’t appear until act 3, with one scene and a reappearance for the finale. She commands the stage and did very well for a first preview.
A few funny in jokes and self references, including one joke about first previews which got extended laughter (may not be as funny tomorrow). Not quite as word perfect as part 1, but that’s to be expected. And one prop malfunction turned into a joke when a champagne bottle didn’t pop. I think this is a play where they have to fine tune the jokes when they work out what references a UK audience understands.
Probably more thoughts tomorrow. I think this would be hard going with two shows in one day as it packs quite an emotional punch at different points, so best to split over two nights if you can.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 10, 2018 0:17:45 GMT
I cannot fathom why the Jungle sold so well, yet this is struggling? Same director for both and strength of Angels in America last year, should have made this a hot ticket.
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Post by Dr Tom on Mar 10, 2018 0:35:57 GMT
I cannot fathom why the Jungle sold so well, yet this is struggling? Same director for both and strength of Angels in America last year, should have made this a hot ticket. Well, it has horrible posters. Every time I see them, I think they’re nothing to do with the character driven show. Don’t know if it selling badly? There were apparently returns available tonight, but they might be people who missed part one due to the snow. Seemed pretty full tonight. |
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Post by princeton on Mar 10, 2018 1:09:14 GMT
I suspect people are slightly put off because it's in two parts which means twice the commitment and twice the price. £76 (top price post preview period) feels like a lot of money for a new play by a virtually unknown playwright, especially with a cast which isn't that well know outside of theatre circles.
If it receives rave reviews I'm sure that tickets will fly out of the door. Though anything which bills itself as a "hilarious and profound heart-breaker" and "a major world premiere" has got quite a lot to live up to.
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Post by underthestudy on Mar 10, 2018 1:38:47 GMT
Maybe don't market it as (sic) "the play of the generation". Wait for others to name it rather than write your own review. Strange marketing dept at the young vic.
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Post by Jon on Mar 10, 2018 1:46:24 GMT
Considering the only selling point is Daldry directing and Vanessa Redgrave in part 2 not to mention it's a new play, it's selling decently and I imagine once the reviews hit, it'll likely sell out.
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Post by crowblack on Mar 10, 2018 10:46:24 GMT
I booked a while ago and am going next Saturday (hopefully). I think people may be reluctant to commit to a two-parter with uncertain running times until the reviews come out. As someone who has to travel long distance I could only afford to do it as a two-play day and in previews - and I'm hoping I can sofa surf because of the late finish.
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