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Post by Jon on Jan 11, 2018 13:05:35 GMT
I know you can't (and shouldn't necessarily) measure success by the number of West End transfers but am I right in saying there have only been two from the Donmar under Josie Rourke - The Weir (Wyndham's) and My Night with Reg (Apollo)?A A few transfers to the USA as well, and also the Shakespeare trilogy transfer to Kings Cross. How many transfers did Grandage have (not counting productions which originated as Donmar West End productions)? Only one I can identify from the Donmar's wikipedia entry is Frost/Nixon. Mary Stuart, A Voyage Around My Father, Piaf, and Frost/Nixon West End wise and Red, Mary Stuart and Hamlet went to Broadway. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 13:12:07 GMT
I know you can't (and shouldn't necessarily) measure success by the number of West End transfers but am I right in saying there have only been two from the Donmar under Josie Rourke - The Weir (Wyndham's) and My Night with Reg (Apollo)? The female Shakespeare trilogy went to Kings Cross and then Brooklyn. Not everything has to transfer to be a hit. For Rourke/Pakenham: Privacy also went to New York, as did Les Liaisons Dangereuses. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 13:12:56 GMT
Mary Stuart, A Voyage Around My Father, Piaf, and Frost/Nixon West End wise and Red, Mary Stuart and Hamlet went to Broadway. Thanks. So not too different from Josie Rourke's record of two West End transfers (Weir and Reg) + the Shakespeares to Kings Cross, then Shakespeares, Liasions Dangereuses, The Machine (Donmar production for Manchester International Festival) to the USA. (Plus Privacy, although not sure if that was a transfer or a new production?) Plus of course a lot of work making the theatre more accessible with the £10 Front Row and Young and Free schemes, cinema screenings, and The Vote on TV. I think she's done a great job. And I guess this is more Pakenham's role - getting them out of the ATG group is a major behind-the-scenes change. |
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Post by Jon on Jan 11, 2018 13:24:04 GMT
^Donmar moving from ATG’s ownership was done by Grandage as he bought the lease and they just had to wait for ATG’s lease to run out before they could own the building and control the ticketing system
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Post by kathryn on Jan 11, 2018 13:28:07 GMT
A few transfers to the USA as well, and also the Shakespeare trilogy transfer to Kings Cross. How many transfers did Grandage have (not counting productions which originated as Donmar West End productions)? Only one I can identify from the Donmar's wikipedia entry is Frost/Nixon. Mary Stuart, A Voyage Around My Father, Piaf, and Frost/Nixon West End wise and Red, Mary Stuart and Hamlet went to Broadway. Wasn't Guys and Dolls a Donmar to West End transfer? And then there was the Donmar West End season. But gosh, how did I forget My Night With Reg? I loved that production! I guess it's just that the last couple of years at the Donmar have been comparatively underwhelming - they certainly haven't had a must-see sell-out for a while. |
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Post by Jon on Jan 11, 2018 13:31:31 GMT
Mary Stuart, A Voyage Around My Father, Piaf, and Frost/Nixon West End wise and Red, Mary Stuart and Hamlet went to Broadway. Wasn't Guys and Dolls a Donmar to West End transfer? And then there was the Donmar West End season. But gosh, how did I forget My Night With Reg? I loved that production! I guess it's just that the last couple of years at the Donmar have been comparatively underwhelming - they certainly haven't had a must-see sell-out for a while. Guys and Dolls doesn’t count because it originated at the Piccadilly and it wasn’t strictly a Donmar show, it used the same creative team like Grandage, Oram and Ashford but it was a commercial production backed by ATG, David Ian and a lot of other producers |
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Post by kathryn on Jan 11, 2018 13:33:29 GMT
Ah, thanks. I remember seeing it at the Picadilly but thought there was a Donmar connection - must have been the creative team.
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Post by Rory on Jan 11, 2018 13:35:39 GMT
I know you can't (and shouldn't necessarily) measure success by the number of West End transfers but am I right in saying there have only been two from the Donmar under Josie Rourke - The Weir (Wyndham's) and My Night with Reg (Apollo)? The female Shakespeare trilogy went to Kings Cross and then Brooklyn. Not everything has to transfer to be a hit. I know that Jon and acknowledged that in my post. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 13:35:53 GMT
But gosh, how did I forget My Night With Reg? I loved that production! Indeed. How could you?  |
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Post by Jan on Jan 11, 2018 13:36:40 GMT
Would have thought Robert Icke is the obvious candidate for this job.
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Post by Jon on Jan 11, 2018 13:47:06 GMT
Would have thought Robert Icke is the obvious candidate for this job. He’d be better at the Almeida after Rupert Goold. |
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 11, 2018 14:13:27 GMT
Dromgoole has already stated he'll be following his Wilde season with a Shaw season. I don't know if he means *immediately* but I think it's safe to say he's committed to being a company leader rather than a building manager for the time being. I wouldn't be so quick to write off Marianne Elliott's company leadership either, one play being a tough sell isn't the same thing as instant failure. How long has Indhu Rubasingham been at the Tricycle? They're getting ready to reopen as a theatre, aren't they? She might feel like she's ready to move on once she's completed the project, the timeline could work very well for her. Just had an email from Tricycle saying they are reopening "Spring" and the new season announcement is soon. So doubt she will jump ship at duch a moment. Rachel Kavanagh? |
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Post by kathryn on Jan 11, 2018 14:17:21 GMT
But gosh, how did I forget My Night With Reg? I loved that production! Indeed. How could you? Honestly, I don't know what happened. I may have to get myself to the doctor for a check-up! |
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Post by dani on Jan 11, 2018 17:28:31 GMT
I wouldn't think Robert Icke would be a good choice to run a building and he probably isn't well suited to the politics and schmoozing involved. I'm sure there are a lot of interesting projects on his plate at the moment, so I don't think he needs this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 17:36:10 GMT
I have nothing to back it up but I can just feel it in my waters that they will want to go with someone of the lady persuasion again which seems right in these times we live in at present.
Perhaps Vicky Featherstone knows someone hanging around at the Royal Court that she can recommend?
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Post by QueerTheatre on Jan 11, 2018 17:56:30 GMT
I'd love if Purni Morell took the post, now her Unicorn successor has been announced. Unlikely, but would be great.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 18:00:06 GMT
Yes, interesting news about Justin Audibert. Hope he continues to direct other stuff too as I've really enjoyed his stuff at the RSC and The Cardinal at Southwark.
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 11, 2018 18:16:08 GMT
Yes, interesting news about Justin Audibert. Hope he continues to direct other stuff too as I've really enjoyed his stuff at the RSC and The Cardinal at Southwark. Yes me too, the Cardinal in particular was a real find. Hmmm wonder what he will programme at the Unicorn? |
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Post by peggs on Jan 11, 2018 20:42:22 GMT
Disappointed when I read this, i'd have initially agreed that I hadn't enjoyed as much under her tenure as Grandage's but when I actually look through what I've seen I've had plenty of really enjoyable times there and like her she goes about her work and what she says, so good luck to them both. When it comes to who is next i'm pretty ignorant of everyone discussed so far so it'll be like when she took over, or Rufus Norris or Emma Rice will have to wait and see. Interesting times.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 22:09:17 GMT
Well I suppose I could give it a bash in the interim before I take over The Nash. Or I could probably do both at the same time really. Can't be that hard can it. Can’t wait for details of your first season |
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Post by princeton on Jan 12, 2018 0:06:25 GMT
Interesting how little she's actually directed there recently - nothing since St Joan at this time last year and, given what's already been announced, nothing until June at the earliest - although she did have a co-author credit for the Kids Company musical. And in 2016 most of her directing was in New York on transfers. With this and the time spent making the Mary Queen of Scots film, one wonders whether she's had her eye on the door for quite some time.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jan 12, 2018 2:50:03 GMT
I wonder if she's burned out from the non-creative responsibilities of the job. Some other director, I can't recall who, made a comment in an interview about Josie spending half her job at the Donmar in fundraising and corporate schmoozing. I know a couple of people who have worked in the offices there and it appears to have rather a more corporate culture than most theatres.
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Post by lonlad on Jan 13, 2018 15:41:27 GMT
Someone mentioned Rob Icke who is about the last person one would think would apply for this job -- for one thing, he's never directed a single thing there --he'd have been better off at the Young Vic (which he circled briefly), but that ship has, alas, sailed. I wonder if Jamie Lloyd (who was much in the frame last time) will re-enter the fray. A more likely bet is someone like Rob Hastie, though he may feel he hasn't been at Sheffield long enough. But he would be following the theatre trajectory of Grandage and also has a great track record at the Donmar - and more to come this season.
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 13, 2018 17:28:34 GMT
Jamie Lloyd is a good shout.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 17:32:25 GMT
Sarah Frankcom? Done great things at the Royal Exchange, been artistic director ten years this year (although joint with Greg Hersov until the last few years).
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