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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 13:10:30 GMT
I am not sure what the aim of this show is
But I had to leave before the interval
I found it sickening patronising and insulting
The worst sort of gross over characterisation
You can imagine
For me I found it all sad and uncomfortable to watch
The characters shown are like something you might get in Catherine Tate or Goodness Gracious Me such are the parodies
The acting and staging are far below professional standards
Again I found it to be the sort of theatre which is a pathetic attempt to “educate” middle class audiences about social issues to provoke guilt and blame politicians who are the easy obvious target
It doesn’t work as a live piece and a film might have been better and had more impact
Most of the dialogue is inaudible and the acoustics in that space are horrific
It was embarrassing to endure as much as i did and I thought it was a joke and kept waiting for it to start
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Post by dani on Dec 13, 2017 11:37:02 GMT
I am suspicious of anything that has two directors. Maybe that's a prejudice I should overcome, but when I read "Direction Stephen Daldry & Justin Martin" I have visions of Daldry not turning up and Justin Martin picking up the slack. Alex Lawther is in it, which would usually interest me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 12:33:21 GMT
I am suspicious of anything that has two directors. Maybe that's a prejudice I should overcome, but when I read "Direction Stephen Daldry & Justin Martin" I have visions of Daldry not turning up and Justin Martin picking up the slack. Alex Lawther is in it, which would usually interest me. You mean like War Horse, or the original Follies or.....?
I presume people interested are seeing/hearing the outstanding word of mouth for this but just in case... twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=jungle%20youngvictheatre&src=typd
In other words, there are few tickets left but don't leave it for long.
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Post by dani on Dec 13, 2017 14:19:37 GMT
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Post by nash16 on Dec 13, 2017 23:28:28 GMT
I am suspicious of anything that has two directors. Maybe that's a prejudice I should overcome, but when I read "Direction Stephen Daldry & Justin Martin" I have visions of Daldry not turning up and Justin Martin picking up the slack. Alex Lawther is in it, which would usually interest me. You mean like War Horse, or the original Follies or.....?
I presume people interested are seeing/hearing the outstanding word of mouth for this but just in case... twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=jungle%20youngvictheatre&src=typd
In other words, there are few tickets left but don't leave it for long.
Never trust Twitter for theatre reviews. People rarely, if ever, tweet if they've not had a good night. |
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Post by n1david on Dec 13, 2017 23:31:45 GMT
Never trust Twitter for theatre reviews. People rarely, if ever, tweet if they've not had a good night. Indeed. And the Twitter feed of Thriller Live! is also filled with people praising the show to the high heavens. Just got my tickets through for the Jungle this weekend. I'm in Afghanistan. |
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Post by dlevi on Dec 13, 2017 23:53:10 GMT
I saw this tonight and found it powerful, insightful and really wonderfully staged and effectively written. I felt the enviornment worked and that the performances were all strong and forceful. There's a bit of emotional discomfort in watching something so real and that we know is based in contemporary fact from the relative comfort of a theatre where we can have interval drinks and delicious snacks while these people suffer, but the fact is it's deeply affective political theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 0:38:52 GMT
Never trust Twitter for theatre reviews. People rarely, if ever, tweet if they've not had a good night. Look at what they say, trust people. Look at their prevalence. It’s foolish to dismiss positive comment and give preference to negative ones. |
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Post by nash16 on Dec 14, 2017 2:06:15 GMT
Never trust Twitter for theatre reviews. People rarely, if ever, tweet if they've not had a good night. Look at what they say, trust people. Look at their prevalence. It’s foolish to dismiss positive comment and give preference to negative ones. It's not giving preferenace to negative ones. It's saying that people rarely want others to know that they've had a night out at the theatre and it's been sh*t. Thus you're far more likely to see "I loved this" tweets. Especially from industry people tagging the theatre company/actors in as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 8:28:46 GMT
Look at what they say, trust people. Look at their prevalence. It’s foolish to dismiss positive comment and give preference to negative ones. It's not giving preferenace to negative ones. It's saying that people rarely want others to know that they've had a night out at the theatre and it's been sh*t. Thus you're far more likely to see "I loved this" tweets. Especially from industry people tagging the theatre company/actors in as well. Yes, I know perfectly well to ignore 'friends of the cast', you really think people are stupid and can't discriminate? If a production is poor you get few tweets and non committal words, if it's good you get the sort of wide praise that this show is getting. As for whether shows I won't like get praise, they do and people do like 'Thriller' (shock, horror, people don't like the same things!!). Do your research, see what appeals, see what non aligned people say in their totality, take that on board - never fails.
The English language is a wonderful thing, it allows for all sorts of nuance, it also allows you to summarily dismiss the cynicism and negativity that comes from insiders and jaundiced 'non friends of the company' or (increasingly) those with a political axe to grind......
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Post by nash16 on Dec 14, 2017 13:15:42 GMT
It's not giving preferenace to negative ones. It's saying that people rarely want others to know that they've had a night out at the theatre and it's been sh*t. Thus you're far more likely to see "I loved this" tweets. Especially from industry people tagging the theatre company/actors in as well. Yes, I know perfectly well to ignore 'friends of the cast', you really think people are stupid and can't discriminate? If a production is poor you get few tweets and non committal words, if it's good you get the sort of wide praise that this show is getting. As for whether shows I won't like get praise, they do and people do like 'Thriller' (shock, horror, people don't like the same things!!). Do your research, see what appeals, see what non aligned people say in their totality, take that on board - never fails.
The English language is a wonderful thing, it allows for all sorts of nuance, it also allows you to summarily dismiss the cynicism and negativity that comes from insiders and jaundiced 'non friends of the company' or (increasingly) those with a political axe to grind......
My goodness, you're very angry about this. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 13:27:15 GMT
Yes, I know perfectly well to ignore 'friends of the cast', you really think people are stupid and can't discriminate? If a production is poor you get few tweets and non committal words, if it's good you get the sort of wide praise that this show is getting. As for whether shows I won't like get praise, they do and people do like 'Thriller' (shock, horror, people don't like the same things!!). Do your research, see what appeals, see what non aligned people say in their totality, take that on board - never fails.
The English language is a wonderful thing, it allows for all sorts of nuance, it also allows you to summarily dismiss the cynicism and negativity that comes from insiders and jaundiced 'non friends of the company' or (increasingly) those with a political axe to grind......
My goodness, you're very angry about this. Ardent.
I reserve anger for the reactionaries of this world (political ones mostly).
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Post by loopyjohn on Dec 14, 2017 14:09:23 GMT
Caught the matinee yesterday. It is another radical transformation of the YV space which has seriously slashed the capacity, in return for offering an immersive experience. Most of the action takes place on a narrow cruciform stage. It reminded me of some of the more radical designs in the RC Upstairs space.
I found it well-staged and well-acted. It is strong at depicting life in the Jungle, the struggles of the different nationalities who are forced to live side-by-side, and the journey some have had to reach the Jungle. The two writers (Joe Robertson & Joe Murphy) are joint artistic directors of Good Chance Theatre, a group which works with refugees and had a theatre in the Jungle. With this background, you would expect an accurate depiction of life in the camp. Sadly, this comes with a staggeringly one-sided view of the issues which is repeatedly rammed home over the course of almost 2 3/4hrs. It leaves the audience in no doubt of how the writers feel about the French authorities or the UK government. Those looking for a more balanced view of the issues on what is an important political and humanitarian topic will be left disappointed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 14:13:01 GMT
What are the main inaccuracies?
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Post by loopyjohn on Dec 14, 2017 14:42:31 GMT
Sorry - my clumsy wording. I wasn't trying to say the way it depicts life in the camp is inaccurate. As the writers have spent a while living there, I assume it is drawn from their real life experiences and therefore pretty accurate. My main beef is with how one-sided the whole thing is.
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Post by dani on Dec 16, 2017 10:31:14 GMT
There's a review of this now on the Arts Desk site (http://www.theartsdesk.com/theatre/jungle-young-vic-review-physically-and-emotionally-challenging). Alex Sierz says, "All in all, this is a sobering evening that lacks a really coherent or conventionally dramatic story, and tells us little that we didn’t already know, but it is done with awesome integrity and total commitment."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 10:45:37 GMT
There's a review of this now on the Arts Desk site (http://www.theartsdesk.com/theatre/jungle-young-vic-review-physically-and-emotionally-challenging). Alex Sierz says, "All in all, this is a sobering evening that lacks a really coherent or conventionally dramatic story, and tells us little that we didn’t already know, but it is done with awesome integrity and total commitment." Four stars. Strange to open on a Friday as most reviews might not appear until Monday (unless they are really giving up on the primacy of print editions). |
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Post by dani on Dec 16, 2017 12:03:51 GMT
There's a review of this now on the Arts Desk site (http://www.theartsdesk.com/theatre/jungle-young-vic-review-physically-and-emotionally-challenging). Alex Sierz says, "All in all, this is a sobering evening that lacks a really coherent or conventionally dramatic story, and tells us little that we didn’t already know, but it is done with awesome integrity and total commitment." Four stars. Strange to open on a Friday as most reviews might not appear until Monday (unless they are really giving up on the primacy of print editions). Lots of productions open on Fridays, though. The Almeida has done this recently, though not with their current production. I have wondered if it's to stop critics writing very rapid responses under time pressure after a long show that finishes late. |
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Post by lonlad on Dec 16, 2017 12:50:11 GMT
In a week such as this one with 12 major London openings (three at the RSC alone), shows are lucky to get any coverage at all LOL!! And, yes, Friday openings often mean bigger displays for the copy on Monday.
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Post by romeo94 on Dec 19, 2017 19:17:14 GMT
Is there any audience participation?
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Post by n1david on Dec 19, 2017 23:13:35 GMT
Is there any audience participation? Not really. People in the audience are handed things or addressed directly but no-one is invited up on stage or asked to 'perform' in any way. |
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Post by drmaplewood on Dec 20, 2017 12:19:19 GMT
Going tonight, running time?
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Post by n1david on Dec 20, 2017 12:45:03 GMT
Out about 10.20pm on Saturday.
I thought this was really interesting - great staging and set, although the Young Vic ushers must hate it (I got told off for taking a short cut from Afghanistan to the bar at the interval). The play itself has some flaws and drags a little in the middle of the second act but overall a very impressive production and I'm very glad I saw it. It's had great reviews, but would be a challenge to transfer.
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Post by Rory on Feb 9, 2018 0:03:08 GMT
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Post by jadnoop on Mar 8, 2018 16:53:39 GMT
Playhouse Theatre dates are:
16 June - 2 November
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