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Post by danb on Jun 29, 2021 20:19:47 GMT
It’s a funny pairing isn’t it? A playhouse sized theatre suits its business model but I’m sure they’d rather have it’s Shaftesbury Ave footfall than being stuck out on the Strand.
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Post by Raven on Jun 30, 2021 9:44:09 GMT
Sophie is currently out with a shoulder injury so looks like Zara is on today and tomorrow and then Hana is on Friday and both Saturday and Sunday shows.
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Post by Dr Tom on Jul 1, 2021 23:23:31 GMT
So, I finally saw Six for the first time today at the 17:00 performance (which actually works really well if you want to catch a 19:30 performance on the same day). Got upgraded to central Stalls too, so an excellent view.
I'm not quite the target audience for this one, but it's done very well. I've heard/seen some of the songs before, of course. It is visually impressive, but ultimately it's a concert with a slightly odd linking mechanism.
I couldn't see a cast board anywhere, but based on Twitter, I saw:
Catherine of Aragon - Collette Guitart (understudy)
Anne Boleyn - Bryony Duncan (West End debut)
Jane Seymour - Hana Stewart (alternate)
Anne of Cleves - Cherelle Jay (alternate)
Catherine Howard - Zara MacIntosh (alternate)
Catherine Parr - Danielle Steers
Quite a unique combination, but I wouldn't have known they'd never performed together before! In fact, I've only just worked out who was on just now.
Congratulations to Bryony Duncan on her West End debut. She did really well.
I can see why people like this show and it's developed a fandom. It was certainly an experience. I'd see it again in the future.
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Post by westended on Jul 9, 2021 8:18:55 GMT
All change now!
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Post by danielwhit on Jul 12, 2021 21:03:00 GMT
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Post by westended on Jul 12, 2021 23:06:25 GMT
I was just referring to the announcement being made about Jamie pausing its run and what this would mean theatre-wise for Six! Apollo is probably looking more likely for Six now, as I’ve heard that the crew at Six don’t think it’s moving to the Vaudeville any longer. We shall see soon! |
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Post by Theatre Fan on Jul 13, 2021 12:35:22 GMT
Transferring to Vaudeville Theatre, permanently. From 29th September 💖 x
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Post by Rory on Jul 14, 2021 7:41:01 GMT
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Post by fiyero on Jul 14, 2021 8:09:33 GMT
Magic goes wrong is still on sale. Could be cosy! |
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Post by dontdreamit on Jul 14, 2021 8:46:34 GMT
I’ve just booked for October, youngest was desperate to see it again 🙂
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Post by ahaz on Jul 14, 2021 8:58:35 GMT
The reaction on Twitter to the news hasn’t been positive from the looks of it, the Vaudeville is not accessible which excludes a lot of people (I can’t say I’ve ever been)
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Post by fiyero on Jul 14, 2021 9:34:54 GMT
The reaction on Twitter to the news hasn’t been positive from the looks of it, the Vaudeville is not accessible which excludes a lot of people (I can’t say I’ve ever been) Is the Arts accessible? Where it is now was always temporary (Not trying to stoke the fire, I’m lucky that I’ve never really had to worry about it) |
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Post by alison on Jul 14, 2021 10:01:15 GMT
The reaction on Twitter to the news hasn’t been positive from the looks of it, the Vaudeville is not accessible which excludes a lot of people (I can’t say I’ve ever been) Is the Arts accessible? Where it is now was always temporary (Not trying to stoke the fire, I’m lucky that I’ve never really had to worry about it) Yes, the Arts is accessible. There’s a wheelchair space at the back of the circle and separate level access. |
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Post by JJShaw on Jul 14, 2021 10:01:21 GMT
The reaction on Twitter to the news hasn’t been positive from the looks of it, the Vaudeville is not accessible which excludes a lot of people (I can’t say I’ve ever been) Gosh you're right, lots of people are very upset. Seeing that their access toilet isn't even in the building I can understand being annoyed at that and how that hasn't been sorted out sooner is bizarre and unacceptable. However people saying that they specifically chose a theatre that is inaccessible is just wrong and not really thinking something through. I do hope that they are able to make the building more accessible before opening, but at the same time people do have to realise A) London theatres are extremely old and protected Grade 2 listed, and B) its a business, this show is a cash cow but only in the right venue, and the Vaudeville is a perfect step up from the Arts but not too big like the Lyric at full capacity. I really don't think a producer is looking and the few potential theatres to transfer their show into and going "hmm but is it accessible? Our show is all about that!" Sadly not I think. But I am hopeful that they are able to try and fix some issues, perhaps a pass-door to the Adelphi? |
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Post by musicalmarge on Jul 14, 2021 10:23:07 GMT
Perhaps the producers didn’t er…. Have a choice?
Vaudeville or close? Hm.
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Post by properjob on Jul 14, 2021 10:49:03 GMT
Six is at least a short one act show so people don't have to rush to get to a different building and back for the interval although I belive depending on the exact nature of someones disability how often they need facilities might be affected so this might be cancelled out.
Hopefully with the benefit of a long running hit they can find the money to try and do something better within the constraints of the site.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jul 14, 2021 11:15:40 GMT
I think there are some rose tinted glasses going on.
The Arts Theatre: 1 wheelchair space, 1 or 2 transfer seats (circle)
Vaudeville: 2 wheelchair spaces, all left hand aisle seats suitable for transfer (stalls)
At the Vaudeville, the toilet situation isn't great, and some larger/heavier chairs can't access the stalls to be seated. But I think it could actually accommodate more manual wheelchair users than the Arts.
(And I have looked at this at other theatres before because we used to go with my grandma who can only walk a couple of steps — I'd be quite confident that with a phone call to the box office we'd be ok at either.)
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jul 14, 2021 11:20:43 GMT
Just to clarify, it definitely could be more accessible, and the toilet situation isn't good at all. But since people on Twitter are making it sound like they moved from somewhere fantastic which I'm not sure is true.
Of course they might have seen it in a regional theatre, which generally tend to be more accessible (presumably due to fewer building constraints, or just newer?)
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Post by christya on Jul 14, 2021 11:48:23 GMT
The accessibility situation isn't great at the Vaudeville, especially the lack of an accessible toilet, but it's possible they didn't have much of a choice. I've seen some people on Twitter saying they'd rather the show closed entirely, which is completely ridiculous. Maybe if the Vaudeville is the permanent residence, so to speak, they can work on getting some better arrangements set up.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jul 14, 2021 12:28:09 GMT
I think there are some rose tinted glasses going on. The Arts Theatre: 1 wheelchair space, 1 or 2 transfer seats (circle) Vaudeville: 2 wheelchair spaces, all left hand aisle seats suitable for transfer (stalls) At the Vaudeville, the toilet situation isn't great, and some larger/heavier chairs can't access the stalls to be seated. But I think it could actually accommodate more manual wheelchair users than the Arts. (And I have looked at this at other theatres before because we used to go with my grandma who can only walk a couple of steps — I'd be quite confident that with a phone call to the box office we'd be ok at either.) Is there something about this show that attracts a large number of physically disabled audience members? When Mischief announced their year-long residency at the Vaudeville back in 2019 I don't recall seeing any comments online complaining that the venue wasn't very accessible for wheelchairs. In terms of loos, the loos at the Arts are at stalls level so I don't see them being very accessible, especially as they're some of the narrowest cubicles I can think of using in a theatre. |
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Post by inthenose on Jul 14, 2021 12:39:40 GMT
I think there are some rose tinted glasses going on. The Arts Theatre: 1 wheelchair space, 1 or 2 transfer seats (circle) Vaudeville: 2 wheelchair spaces, all left hand aisle seats suitable for transfer (stalls) At the Vaudeville, the toilet situation isn't great, and some larger/heavier chairs can't access the stalls to be seated. But I think it could actually accommodate more manual wheelchair users than the Arts. (And I have looked at this at other theatres before because we used to go with my grandma who can only walk a couple of steps — I'd be quite confident that with a phone call to the box office we'd be ok at either.) Is there something about this show that attracts a large number of physically disabled audience members? When Mischief announced their year-long residency at the Vaudeville back in 2019 I don't recall seeing any comments online complaining that the venue wasn't very accessible for wheelchairs. In terms of loos, the loos at the Arts are at stalls level so I don't see them being very accessible, especially as they're some of the narrowest cubicles I can think of using in a theatre. Wicked does, too, but thankfully that theatre is reasonably well equipped with consistently great front of house staff, who go out of their way to make wheelchair users comfortable. I can sort of understand why these shows might appeal. People like underdog stories, with someone they can relate to because of a characteristic which makes them different. Disabilities aside, I do recall being in the day seat queue for Wicked once and literally everyone in the queue except my partner and me looked identical in how "different" they were. Every single one had bright coloured hair, carried a satchel with badges on it, that sort of thing. Having an edgy outsider image sort of loses its lustre when everyone looks the same as you! Can also guarantee these were the same teenage boys and girls who whooped and hollered incessantly and completely spoiled the show for us. |
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Post by ghw894 on Jul 14, 2021 13:47:47 GMT
It really shows how these 'fans' react when something doesn't go their way. The accessibility issue isn't great, at all, however, I think this is more down to the fact that the mega fans truly believed when Jamie posted it's closing notice last week, Six would end up in the Apollo. They'd all hyped themselves up to believe this and I think a lot of the kickback is because they didn't get their way. I truly believe that they want the producers to turn around and change the venue based on their concerns, it just won't happen. It can't have worse access than the Arts?
I really feel for the fans this affects, it obviously is not their fault. But as technology heightens and wheelchairs become heavier due to life-changing adaptations to make day-to-day life easier, it's clearly going to render the usual accessibility procedures, obsolete.
I really do empthathise with them, I couldn't imagine not being able to see a show I loved based on the fact a disability wouldn't allow me to access a venue. It does need to change and I really hope it does. But I can't deal with the 'younger' fanbase attempting to cancel a show that only yesterday they couldn't live without. They haven't even given Six a chance to respond before getting on Social Media in an attempt to call them out. Social Media, whilst great, can sometimes be very toxic.
On a positive note, looking at the seating plan, since it announced this AM, it's sold really well which is great news.
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Post by Being Alive on Jul 14, 2021 14:04:17 GMT
...actual wheelchair users are telling you that it has worse access then the Arts (and for lots of people this will actually PREVENT them from going to the show - like, they physically cannot get into or around the building) but god forbid people should be upset about it.
This is not about 'something not going their way'. It is about lack of accessibility in theatres. The lack of awareness from people on here today is staggering.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2021 14:12:28 GMT
...actual wheelchair users are telling you that it has worse access then the Arts (and for lots of people this will actually PREVENT them from going to the show - like, they physically cannot get into or around the building) but god forbid people should be upset about it. This is not about 'something not going their way'. It is about lack of accessibility in theatres. The lack of awareness from people on here today is staggering. Well what do you suggest they do then? It's all very well to highlight a problem but to do so without proposing solutions that are actually possible isn't going to take anything any further... |
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Post by Being Alive on Jul 14, 2021 14:17:50 GMT
It isn't my job to propose solutions - theatre should be accessible for all, and for there to be so many people who will be unable to attend is crazy.
Create better access front or back of house - it's not like the theatre is in a back alley - it's on the Strand for god sake. Or actively engage in conversations with people who are going to struggle and see what can be done to help. We cannot be alienating whole communities. It's 2021. Be better.
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