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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 20:18:46 GMT
I find it a bit odd that people are saying that they are excited to see a show that some have called racist. Curious I understand, but excited? Why?
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Post by Stephen on Oct 24, 2018 20:32:26 GMT
I find it a bit odd that people are saying that they are excited to see a show that some have called racist. Curious I understand, but excited? Why? I'm not excited at the prospect of an evening of racism at the theatre. I'm excited as I have enjoyed all of McDonagh's other work and have heard such mixed things about this production. I would certainly hope that nobody here would be excited by racism. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 22:32:59 GMT
Telegraph 3 stars
The Stage 2 stars
“A very big disappointment”
Independent 3 stars
“Lacks intellectual nuance fails to live up to expectation”
Arts Desk 2 stars
“Poorly written and falls flat lacking in imagination”
Perhaps someone needs to
Write a play
About Martin McDonagh
And how his brain was replaced by excrement
After aliens took a dump in his ears
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Post by Rory on Oct 24, 2018 22:40:16 GMT
Perhaps someone needs to Write a play About Martin McDonagh And how his brain was replaced by excrement After aliens took a dump in his ears Good Lord! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 22:46:11 GMT
Perhaps someone needs to Write a play About Martin McDonagh And how his brain was replaced by excrement After aliens took a dump in his ears Good Lord! We can make the aliens from Africa And add lots of swearing of course After dwelling on it this evening It really is a pathetic c*** of a play And I cannot believe Bridge are so desperate Or the “actors starring in it” On the plus side It’s running until Jan 2019 And there are loads of unsold seats So I hope it hits the theatre where it hurts the most One wonders what the f*** has happened to Hytner Not a single major success or sell out play (Julius Caesar was the only one with overall good reviews) Aside from a Hollywood star doing a monotone Sorry I mean monologue |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 22:56:26 GMT
I also wonder
The Pygmy actress
Has no shame
Appearing in such an insulting racist and sh*tty play
She has no dignity at all
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Post by lonlad on Oct 25, 2018 0:30:17 GMT
Except that MM clearly thinks he's ennobling "Marjory" who is presented as some pintsized Congolese warrior on the order of Frances McDormand in Three Billboards === in his dreams, it must be said. The play is an embarrassment from start to finish: Ann Treneman in The Times loved it, which tells you all you need to know.
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Post by Boob on Oct 25, 2018 3:01:40 GMT
I suspect the pygmy who’d been writing Martin’s plays to date died and he was forced to pen this one himself.
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Post by stefy69 on Oct 25, 2018 5:48:13 GMT
Excellent review for this in todays Times although they admit it will divide opinion, personally looking forward to this greatly.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Oct 25, 2018 6:02:48 GMT
Intrigued by this, if a plays popularity is measured by posts this one is extremely successful and the vitriol of some of the posts means that it is definitely not a forgettable production.
On the plus side it is only 80 minutes and have a cheap front row ticket, therefore not a lot of investment of time and money required if it is as bad as people say.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 6:36:24 GMT
Thanks for all the posts on here. Reviews on this Board do not usually influence my decision about what to see, but on this occasion I will take heed and give this show a miss. Some on here seem intent on convincing us that this is a hit even in the face of mediocre and poor reviews. Hangmen was brilliantly written but it contained a couple of racist jokes which I found dumbfounding and offensive. And from the silence in the audience I was not alone. I have no intention of sitting through a play where that bad racist joke is stretched out to 80 minutes. And in the words of the legendary @emicardiff please do not @ me. I don’t wanna hear it.
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Post by theatrefan77 on Oct 25, 2018 6:47:32 GMT
Well, I enjoyed this last night. Maybe not one of his best plays, but a very interesting one nevertheless, even if it doesn't live up to all the hype. Just my opinion of course. I loved the set too.
Sat near Martin McDonagh and Phoebe Mary Waller-Bridge. I was tempted to approach her and ask about Killing Eve Season 2, but I didn't.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 25, 2018 7:04:29 GMT
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Post by kathryn on Oct 25, 2018 7:48:20 GMT
Some of us are still going to see this - please put spoilers behind spoiler tags!
And can we pull back on making moral judgements about people being intrigued and excited to see a piece of theatre, by a well-known and popular playwright, which has divided opinion?
It is a cardinal sin to condemn something without seeing it - we all may be just as outraged as you, but we do have to see it first before we reach that conclusion. We wouldn’t be here if we didn’t get excited by theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 7:52:58 GMT
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Post by zahidf on Oct 25, 2018 7:54:55 GMT
Well, I enjoyed this last night. Maybe not one of his best plays, but a very interesting one nevertheless, even if it doesn't live up to all the hype. Just my opinion of course. I loved the set too. Sat near Martin McDonagh and Phoebe Mary Waller-Bridge. I was tempted to approach her and ask about Killing Eve Season 2, but I didn't. She probably couldn't have helped you, as she isn't writing series 2, concentrating on fleabag and other stuff instead |
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Post by stefy69 on Oct 25, 2018 7:56:56 GMT
Some of us are still going to see this - please put spoilers behind spoiler tags! And can we pull back on making moral judgements about people being intrigued and excited to see a piece of theatre, by a well-known and popular playwright, which has divided opinion? It is a cardinal sin to condemn something without seeing it - we all may be just as outraged as you, but we do have to see it first before we reach that conclusion. We wouldn’t be here if we didn’t get excited by theatre. Very well said in a reasonable and considerate manner. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 8:35:55 GMT
Can someone please tell me if there is any way of muting a thread?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 8:37:01 GMT
Can someone please tell me if there is any way of muting a thread? You can just not click on it, I think... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 8:44:57 GMT
I admit this had largely passed me by until our dear Monkey mentioned it to me this week and I was @ in this thread (just teasing loved it!) by which I knew it was happening but knew I wouldn't see it so wasn't paying attention.
I admit I'm intrigued now. And I still won't get time to see it but still. As much as I don't want EVERY play to be controversial for the sake of it, having something stir up a bit of healthy debate is a good thing, generally. But, can we do it nicely? I was ranting yesterday that increasingly the theatre types are saying on one hand 'audiences should enjoy a play as they like' in term of behaviour but on the other hand morally condemning anyone who doesn't like the right things or likes the wrong things.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 8:45:31 GMT
Can someone please tell me if there is any way of muting a thread? You can just not click on it, I think... Thanks but I’m still not able to do it. Any other ideas? Otherwise, I guess I will just have to ignore it myself. And for the record I would have thought that a lover of McD’s “dark and edgy” humour would see the irony of accusing someone of committing a cardinal sin. Or perhaps it was meant to be a joke. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 8:45:41 GMT
Can someone please tell me if there is any way of muting a thread? You can just not click on it, I think... Thanks but I’m still not able to do it. Any other ideas? Otherwise, I guess I will just have to ignore it myself. And for the record I would have thought that a lover of McD’s “dark and edgy” humour would see the irony of accusing someone of committing a cardinal sin. Or perhaps it was meant to be a joke. |
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Post by Mr Snow on Oct 25, 2018 8:50:17 GMT
I hope you re read this after seeing it. The review is pretentious trying to explain it as a “savage but cryptic allegory” (  ), while bending over backwards trying to avoid admitting its nonsense. Don’t know how to do spoiler alerts on My phone so please do not read on if you want to avoid them If the author is (who’s previous work I really like blah, blah, blah), was trying to say something, my guess it was this. We live at a time when it’s not enough to write off the cannon because it was written by Old Dead White Guys, we are rewriting history in a PC way. So you can rewrite the history of Dickens and Andersen to involve the atrocities in the Belgian Congo (events that happened after their time) and say they stole their ideas from a pair of dwarf sisters, and people will repair to the bar saying you’ve made really interesting points ! I would guess that McDonagh holds those two in high esteem and thinks it odd that we are so ready to place our current corncwrns on them. Somewhere, however he lost the plot. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 9:07:49 GMT
Some of us are still going to see this - please put spoilers behind spoiler tags! And can we pull back on making moral judgements about people being intrigued and excited to see a piece of theatre, by a well-known and popular playwright, which has divided opinion? It is a cardinal sin to condemn something without seeing it - we all may be just as outraged as you, but we do have to see it first before we reach that conclusion. We wouldn’t be here if we didn’t get excited by theatre. This is the point - people want to see it so they can join the conversation. They may well not like it but not seeing it excludes them. Given that I'm down to see it in January I'm also now interested in seeing more opinions, in light of reviews and such. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 9:27:26 GMT
Thanks but I’m still not able to do it. Any other ideas? Otherwise, I guess I will just have to ignore it myself. I'm... pretty sure that the suggestion to "just not click on the thread" was indeed someone saying the easiest solution would be for you to just ignore it yourself.  |
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), while bending over backwards trying to avoid admitting its nonsense.