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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Feb 4, 2019 14:11:11 GMT
Gillian is in this month's Vogue as well... Also not to go back down a well trodden path...most films are 2 hours long and people don't bat an eye and in a reasonably comfortable venue ie not sat on benches or whatnot, it doesn't really seem necessary to do a 75/45 split or whatever. Yes! Whenever people complain about a lack of an interval in a show less than 2 and a half hours I'm like have you never been to the cinema before? |
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Post by vdcni on Feb 4, 2019 14:19:35 GMT
I mean personally I don't mind to the point of not going but the average cinema is just a hell of a lot more comfortable than the theatre so the have you never seen a film point only goes so far.
Bigger, wider seats, better cushioned, more legroom, easier to pop out if you need to. I can easily sit in a cinema for 2 and half hours but I know now this is going to mean I'm going to start hurting at some point.
There's a reason I always try and book aisles in the theatre and am happy to sit in the centre in the cinema.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 14:33:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 14:35:25 GMT
Cinemas are way comfier than most theatres, and also it's generally less disruptive in a cinema when someone has to pop out halfway through the film (the rake, the noise, the fact there's fewer people in a screening to begin with), but also some people just don't go to the cinema at all and would rather wait for the film to be available to buy/rent/stream because then they can press pause when they go to the toilet. Not everyone can sit comfortably for two solid hours under any circumstance, and if you're ever bored enough to go through all 143 pages of the Follies thread, you'll find that there are at least several TheatreBoard.co.uk members among that number. Theatre is often easier for these people than cinema because there is usually an interval, but once the running time ticks over a certain number of minutes, it's just not worth the risk for them. Which lord knows I'm sure most people here are aware of, as emicardiff says we've definitely trod this conversational path once or twice before, but for the benefit of anyone who's new or on behalf of anyone who can't be bothered dredging up the same points they already made, I guess.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 14:38:01 GMT
Cinemas are way comfier than most theatres, and also it's generally less disruptive in a cinema when someone has to pop out halfway through the film (the rake, the noise, the fact there's fewer people in a screening to begin with), but also some people just don't go to the cinema at all and would rather wait for the film to be available to buy/rent/stream because then they can press pause when they go to the toilet. Not everyone can sit comfortably for two solid hours under any circumstance, and if you're ever bored enough to go through all 143 pages of the Follies thread, you'll find that there are at least several TheatreBoard.co.uk members among that number. Theatre is often easier for these people than cinema because there is usually an interval, but once the running time ticks over a certain number of minutes, it's just not worth the risk for them. Which lord knows I'm sure most people here are aware of, as emicardiff says we've definitely trod this conversational path once or twice before, but for the benefit of anyone who's new or on behalf of anyone who can't be bothered dredging up the same points they already made, I guess. Yes and it's worth saying I wasn't saying that any of those weren't entirely valid, I'm just vaguely bemused that we have to have the same discussion every time a show announces a no-interval set up. (and for the record are we even surprised, it's Ivo, video projections, and no interval are pretty much how I describe the man's work...) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 14:38:09 GMT
👆Here here.
Plus, I like a drink during the interval.
And if there's a hottie on the bar, even better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 14:49:23 GMT
I think people who say "can't you keep it in?" or generally support shows without an interval should have to wear a badge to the theatre that says so.
Then I'll know who to trip up and wipe my feet on when I come back from the bar.
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Post by Backdrifter on Feb 4, 2019 15:33:10 GMT
I agree with those saying cinema and theatre aren't necessarily valid comparisons, for all the reasons already given. Plus, a theatre is teams of people working together to provide the best experience for the audience and that includes the food and drink areas - I sympathise with the bar managers who complain about interval-less shows.
At the same time, I accept that artistically some productions benefit from no interval, it definitely can work best in some cases.
I don't find it baffling that the same discussions rear their heads. We've all got pet topics and will seize opportunities to flag them up. Same on every message board ever. I quite like seeing old favourites pop up again.
Thank you @ryan for posting the HB cover. Very much appreciated. Really.
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Post by showgirl on Feb 4, 2019 15:37:23 GMT
Continuing off-topic I know, but it's hardly cricket for some to say they don't want to go over old ground, but then to proceed to do exactly that in defence of the "no interval" case.
As subsequent posters have pointed out, (modern) cinema seats are much more comfortable than West End/traditional theatre seats, with wider aisles and even foot-rests at some venues. I almost only ever attend Curzon cinemas, where I can book literally any seat for the same price, so I can choose those with the most legroom and in auditoria which entail the least climbing up and down stairs/steps - another thing which is hard to avoid or minimise at many theatres.
And particularly at present, when I am only just reaching the (post-op) stage at which I'm allowed up and about again, I have to be really careful about what I do, eg travelling outside rush hour so I can get a seat, avoiding crowds to reduce the risk of someone treading on my foot and so on.
Still, if anyone wishes to start a dedicated thread (or dredge it up if there is one), please do so. I do also think theatres are not taking into account access needs when they programme productions with no interval, which is surprising and disappointing in 2019.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 16:06:52 GMT
Ok consider me told, I meant only to make a passing observation on what was already being discussed, but as my post has seemed to create controversy rather than add to an already happening discussion, Mods feel free to remove (go on you love a good clean up of a thread on a Monday)
I feel like I've somehow caused offence and without wanting to go all 'me too' I have a stomach condition that means I have 'toilet issues' as well so I was having a go at nobody. And again thought I was just passing comment rather than stirring up the pot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 16:25:06 GMT
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Post by Backdrifter on Feb 4, 2019 17:08:48 GMT
Ok consider me told, I meant only to make a passing observation on what was already being discussed, but as my post has seemed to create controversy rather than add to an already happening discussion, Mods feel free to remove (go on you love a good clean up of a thread on a Monday) I feel like I've somehow caused offence and without wanting to go all 'me too' I have a stomach condition that means I have 'toilet issues' as well so I was having a go at nobody. And again thought I was just passing comment rather than stirring up the pot. I'd say mods, don't remove. Your post expressed a reasonable and valid point of view in a totally uncontroversial and non-pot-stirring way and to anyone offended by it I'd say, get a grip. |
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Post by Backdrifter on Feb 4, 2019 17:10:21 GMT
Keep up the good work with the pic posting, this is all great stuff. |
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Post by callum on Feb 4, 2019 18:55:06 GMT
Nobody died at Follies and hopefully no one will die here. If you think you can't sit through it, don't go or wait for NT Live. Nobody is owed an interval!
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Feb 4, 2019 19:49:37 GMT
I suppose I never suffer too much in theatre seats that I thought of it as an issue but then again I'm relatively short so leg-room isn't much of an issue for me. Also there's definitely shows that benefit from the flow of having no interval. Follies has been brought up and I think that's a perfect example of a show that hugely benefitted from having no interval and I can't think of a place that you could put an interval without it being jarring and breaking the pace of the show. Obviously I haven't seen this yet so I don't know if the same is true here but I imagine it should be since having no interval is definitely a turn-off for a lot of people (as evidenced by this thread) and I doubt they'd go out of their way to exclude an interval unless it was necessary knowing it's an unpopular choice.
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Post by Rory on Feb 4, 2019 20:19:09 GMT
I was about to post a link to the trailer for Sex Education but thought it was maybe a bit racy for the board. On Gillian's Twitter account.
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Post by lynette on Feb 4, 2019 20:48:53 GMT
Yep, a bit racy. Popped up on my twitter. All good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 21:46:13 GMT
Nobody died at Follies and hopefully no one will die here. If you think you can't sit through it, don't go or wait for NT Live. Nobody is owed an interval! I nearly died during the too slow temp for I'm Still Here, but I toughed it out. |
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Post by l0islane on Feb 4, 2019 23:41:02 GMT
It was 4 minutes shorter this evening! It felt smoother than Saturday and they've significantly changed the ending (which is a very good thing).
My friend was sat in the gallery tonight (row D) and unfortunately said the view was pretty bad. They have additional TVs up there because you can't see the full screen but apparently they are too small to see the detail you need.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 5, 2019 9:47:46 GMT
Maybe the people who can’t ‘hold it in’ should go to relaxed performances?
I agree that it’s unfair on those people to go worrying they will be caught short and then not allowed re-entry, or simply not go because of the running length,
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Post by londontheatrefan on Feb 5, 2019 10:13:32 GMT
I saw it last night. I thought the actors were brilliant, if perhaps a little let down by the direction, and I felt that at times background music detracted from the action. I didn't really connect to the production as much as I thought I would, but it was an enjoyable 2hrs 15, and worth it to see Monica Dolan be absolutely superb. Gillian was great too, although had big shoes to fill from the film, and I loved seeing a different side to Lily James. I'm seeing it again in a few weeks, so hopefully it's tightened up in parts then.
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Post by theinvisiblegirl on Feb 5, 2019 19:57:30 GMT
It was 4 minutes shorter this evening! It felt smoother than Saturday and they've significantly changed the ending (which is a very good thing). My friend was sat in the gallery tonight (row D) and unfortunately said the view was pretty bad. They have additional TVs up there because you can't see the full screen but apparently they are too small to see the detail you need. Can you post how they've changed the ending in spoiler tags please? I was there on Saturday and probably won't be able to see it again so I'm interested to know. |
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Post by l0islane on Feb 5, 2019 22:08:21 GMT
It was 4 minutes shorter this evening! It felt smoother than Saturday and they've significantly changed the ending (which is a very good thing). My friend was sat in the gallery tonight (row D) and unfortunately said the view was pretty bad. They have additional TVs up there because you can't see the full screen but apparently they are too small to see the detail you need. Can you post how they've changed the ending in spoiler tags please? I was there on Saturday and probably won't be able to see it again so I'm interested to know. Sure {Spoiler - click to view}
From what I remember on Saturday at the end the girl who appeared in the bed, picked up the red dress did some strange dance and started running around like a crazy person and then screamed and it ended. Yesterday she just picked up the red dress and put it on and spun around in a circle like she was dreaming of being Eve/a star and then it ended. |
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Post by Ade on Feb 5, 2019 22:11:54 GMT
Can you post how they've changed the ending in spoiler tags please? I was there on Saturday and probably won't be able to see it again so I'm interested to know. Sure {Spoiler - click to view}
From what I remember on Saturday at the end the girl who appeared in the bed, picked up the red dress did some strange dance and started running around like a crazy person and then screamed and it ended. Yesterday she just picked up the red dress and put it on and spun around in a circle like she was dreaming of being Eve/a star and then it ended. Ah today had another new ending then. I have no clue how to do spoilers or I would put it here. |
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Post by Ade on Feb 5, 2019 22:13:24 GMT
Ok so... it’s ok. I enjoyed it but didn’t love it. The direction is just nonsense. There are some very tense moments but, like with Network, there’s an obsession with what else is going on on the stage rather than the main action. We were in the side dress circle and the sight lines at times were dreadful, and I can imagine anyone in the balcony barely saw anything. They have even installed screens up there because there are huge portions they would miss without them. It’s a solid adaptation as far as the writing goes - very faithful to the film. Gillian Anderson was largely serviceable - didn’t have the gravitas it felt it needed but it’s previews so I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt. Lily James as Eve was decent. She jumped from sweet girl to calculated without any shade in between, but that was a small point. Julian Ovenden as Bill was good. Sheila Reid as Birdie was good. Stanley Townsend as Addison also good. Stand out for me was Monica Dolan as Karen - by far the most convincing performance. All in all it has the makings of a decent production but let down by some terrible choices from the Van Hove.
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