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Post by mrbarnaby on Jan 24, 2019 21:08:41 GMT
They may well extend beyond Feb to their closing date so it might still play to March. Fiddler goes in mid March apparently.
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Post by Mark on Jan 24, 2019 21:13:54 GMT
They may well extend beyond Feb to their closing date so it might still play to March. Fiddler goes in mid March apparently. March 2nd could well be the final date, because from 4th March the availability goes down to practically nothing on ATG
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 21:17:18 GMT
They may well extend beyond Feb to their closing date so it might still play to March. Fiddler goes in mid March apparently. March 2nd could well be the final date, because from 4th March the availability goes down to practically nothing on ATG It's very confusing, as the Hampstead Theatre has taken all sales off the website after February 9th.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jan 24, 2019 21:24:00 GMT
Ah well maybe it is closing on that date then..
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Post by Rory on Jan 24, 2019 21:25:19 GMT
They may well extend beyond Feb to their closing date so it might still play to March. Fiddler goes in mid March apparently. Wonder what happened to Oslo?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 21:25:32 GMT
Ah well maybe it is closing on that date then.. I've seen Feb 9th and Mar 2nd going around. Because Hampstead stops sales on the Feb 9th, whereas ATG shows low availablity after Mar 2nd. So it appears it will be one of the two, we will have to wait and see. I imagine an announcement will be so soon.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 24, 2019 21:53:59 GMT
Wouldn't think Baz would confirm anything on Twitter, that would detract from his own scoops tweets/column to come out tonight.
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Post by Dr Tom on Jan 24, 2019 21:54:09 GMT
In theory it could close anytime, but I presume they’d have to give the cast two weeks pay in lieu of notice. I doubt it would make financial sense to close without warning though if they still have the outlay and can get people desperate to see the show before it closes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 22:20:24 GMT
March 2nd could well be the final date, because from 4th March the availability goes down to practically nothing on ATG It's very confusing, as the Hampstead Theatre has taken all sales off the website after February 9th. Could it be deliberately confusing in order to create a bit of a fuss causing some panic buying?
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Post by zak97 on Jan 24, 2019 22:24:01 GMT
It's very confusing, as the Hampstead Theatre has taken all sales off the website after February 9th. Could it be deliberately confusing in order to create a bit of a fuss causing some panic buying? I doubt the general public would pick up on it. Unless they are madly keen to see it and are willing to shop around for prices, it would be the case of ‘well it’s not booking when we want, that’s a shame...what else is there’. I can only imagine some of the big fans would be booking, if they are even aware, and even in that case it would be a significant number of bookings in the wider picture.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 23:07:45 GMT
Fiddler is officially transfering, beginning performances March 21st, so we will see the end date for this very soon no doubt.
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Post by Rory on Jan 25, 2019 9:36:45 GMT
On the ATG website you can't buy tickets after Saturday 2nd March so looks like that's the closing date.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 10:32:06 GMT
On the ATG website you can't buy tickets after Saturday 2nd March so looks like that's the closing date. Must be doing the updates... All seats were half price with the ATG card yesterday, which I was going to go for but they've stopped this morning.
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Post by raiseitup on Jan 27, 2019 22:25:23 GMT
On the ATG website you can't buy tickets after Saturday 2nd March so looks like that's the closing date. Posters on the underground have also been updated saying "must end March 2nd".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 22:37:32 GMT
So.
This only ran on Broadway from May 02, 2004 to Aug 29, 2004.
This production only lasted on the West End from Nov 20, 2018 to Mar 02, 2019.
Now, I support producers who take a chance, and I love it when crazy producer's with money spend their money on crazy projects. But, really, who thought a transfer of this would be a good idea?
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Post by Rory on Jan 27, 2019 23:43:07 GMT
Nothing wrong with a limited season, which I think was always the intention here. Plenty of plays do it. If no producers took the chance on quality, but perhaps less mainstream, stuff like this, all we'd be left with in the commercial theatres would be long runners and horrible fillers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 23:47:16 GMT
Nothing wrong with a limited season, which I think was always the intention here. Plenty of plays do it. If no producers took the chance on quality but perhaps less mainstream stuff like this, all we'd be left with in the commercial theatres would be long runners and horrible fillers. The issue isn't so much the limited run, but it's playing to basically half empty theatres the whole run. I feel it would of been a smarter idea to cut their losses and finish off after its first two runs. Especially as it's a show that clearly would have limited audience as it's not a big flashy musical and it's not based on anything or has a famous person in the cast for the general public.
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Post by apubleed on Jan 28, 2019 8:23:16 GMT
I guess this is what I love about New York compared to the West End. In New York people, for some strange reason, people are willing to invest in mounting risky, high quality avant-garde shows time and time again on a commercial stage. Sometimes it pays off (next to normal, Fun Home). Mostly it doesn't (Grey Gardens; The Scottsboro Boys; Bridges of Madison County; Caroline, or Change etc.). But as a theatregoer it's much more satisfying for me to see these shows than wait for the next trashy jukebox musical.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 10:15:51 GMT
Well it was clearly a calculated risk- as such things always are. Caroline had a great run at the Hampstead and excellent reviews. It's the first major UK revival (only? I think?) and it hasn't been on Broadway since the original either. Also off the back of Angels' success (because yes, a playwright having a blockbuster of a hit one season does translate to interest in the next). And maybe as well whoever the investors were had an interest in putting something a bit more 'intellectual' (for want of a better word) or 'challenging' out there. And I applaud that risk.
Would a shorter run have been better? possibly. But I'm also glad they didn't go with 'star names' either. So it's a shame but well done for taking a risk I say.
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Post by Mark on Jan 28, 2019 10:50:45 GMT
I think it was too ambitious of a run, to expect this to play the West End for almost five months and especially in the winter season. I had multiple chances to see it in December but resisted because I knew it would be "heavy". Nothing screams Christmas uplifting like Caroline, or Change right?
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Post by wickedgrin on Jan 29, 2019 1:28:58 GMT
Today Tix have a 24 hour £15 seat sale - Upper Circle seats by the look of it but good Stalls and Dress Circle seats for £25 - good value!
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Post by sf on Jan 29, 2019 13:09:39 GMT
I think it was only originally running until the end of January anyway, so the extension through February was pretty good going. I do have an idea that had it not run at Hampstead, it may have done slightly better. There were a number of people, including myself who thought, "we had an amazing time in the intimacy of the Hampstead theatre, to see it again in a bigger house would spoil it, and besides, we're busy and can take a pass on a repeat visit." That has to take a pretty good chunk of target market clients out of the buying pool, I feel. Exactly. I saw it at the Hampstead Theatre; if it hadn't run there, I'd have seen it in the West End. If I lived in London I'd have seen it again at the Playhouse, and I would probably have seen it again if I'd had a slot free for it on a day when I was going to be in London anyway, but I don't. Full-price West End tickets are expensive, walk-up train tickets are prohibitively expensive, I don't enjoy travelling via Megabus, and the timeframe on special offers on TodayTix etc usually isn't compatible with finding reasonable advance-purchase train fares. Seeing it once will have to be enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 14:12:55 GMT
I agree. I got a lot out of it in the Hampstead (enjoyed seems the wrong word but you know what I mean) but there I had 3rd row seats for not much money. As above with travel and WE prices I just couldn’t justify a revisit for what would probably seating wise be an inferior experience. Also given it’s not exactly feel good toe tapping once in a year is probably enough for anyone bar the most hardcore Sharon D Clarke fans.
I would have said Tony Kushner fans but frankly I think I probably tick that box and if I didn’t go twice welll....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 16:00:02 GMT
This has done well regionally in the States. It has me wondering if the lack of POC on stage here (particularly in compelling roles) helped pull in larger audiences for this show as it has sold out runs or done very well in quite a few mid-sized cities.
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Post by Rory on Jan 29, 2019 16:28:39 GMT
I agree. I got a lot out of it in the Hampstead (enjoyed seems the wrong word but you know what I mean) but there I had 3rd row seats for not much money. As above with travel and WE prices I just couldn’t justify a revisit for what would probably seating wise be an inferior experience. Also given it’s not exactly feel good toe tapping once in a year is probably enough for anyone bar the most hardcore Sharon D Clarke fans. I would have said Tony Kushner fans but frankly I think I probably tick that box and if I didn’t go twice welll.... Interview with Kushner in today's Evening Standard.
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