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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 16, 2016 13:01:06 GMT
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 18, 2016 23:06:38 GMT
This show ran 2 years in the West End from 1963 to 1965 and transferred to Broadway where it ran a further 511 performances. A film followed...so if it aint broke dont fix it!
This adapdation of the original show by Julian Fellowes, Cameron Mackintosh, Stiles and Drewe ditches only around 4 songs from the original show, the rest remain with alot of altered lyrics and around 7 new songs added, so it does not take a mathematical genius to work out that the show is now far too long. The first Act runs 1.20 and second 1.05 - admittedly a preview performance but without cutting some of the new songs I do not see how this can be shortened. The show on Monday evening started 5 mins late and the interval was 25 minutes rather than the advertised 20 - so the show did not finish until 10.25 - almost 3 hours!
Most of the new songs are forgetable although "Back the Right Horse" for Chitterlow and Just a Few Little Things for Kipps and Helen made their mark. But the "moments" of the show belong to the original composer David Heneker with "Long Ago" "Half A Sixpence" and of course "Flash Bang Wallop" - songs which Stiles and Drew can only dream of. So I did not think the new material - although pleasant enough -added anything other than length.
Having said that though it is a gorgeous production. Beautifully designed on a revolving bandstand in wedgewood blue with screens and projections which facilitate (noisy) scene changes. The costumes are sumptuous and the band and vocals of the company are excellent.
Despite trying to open up the story to include other characters it remains Kipps's show - it is his story after all!. A real find in Charlie Stemp as Kipps, looking like a young Michael Crawford at times with a hugely engaging and likeable personality. Certainly an actor to watch. He is well supported by a lovely portrail of Ann (his childhood sweetheart) by Devon -Elise Johnson.
A charming production (4 stars from me) - well suited to the Chichester stage with its circular bandstand and a lovely evening or afternoon out in Chichester. However, I simply cannot see the production going any further. It is an old fashioned show and I cannot see them queuing round the block in the West End to see it or on tour.
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Post by mallardo on Jul 18, 2016 23:18:12 GMT
Nice review, wickedgrin. I haven't seen it but I agree with you on the shortcomings of Stiles and Drew whose support from Cameron Mackintosh is mystifying but I hope you're wrong about the prospects for this show - as an Emma Williams fan I really want this to work!
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 18, 2016 23:28:42 GMT
Emma Williams is excellent in this making the most of the rather thankless role of Helen Walsingham. She is given two new numbers "Believe in Yourself" and "Just A Few Little Things" - both duets with Kipps.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 26, 2016 8:41:49 GMT
It's opening tonight.. Anyone been yet?
I hope it's not another Barnum.. Mackintosh tinkering with a show and killing it stone dead.
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Post by bramble on Jul 26, 2016 8:52:35 GMT
I'm afraid it is.Brash vulgar and tasteless.They even build Downton Abbey.Most of the audience seemed to love it.No Style or artistry.Insipid new songs. No charm. Not for me.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 26, 2016 9:07:11 GMT
I've been and posted my thoughts on another thread for this.
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Post by Michael on Jul 26, 2016 9:16:34 GMT
I've been and posted my thoughts on another thread for this. Which is why I've merged both threads.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 26, 2016 19:04:32 GMT
That makes me really sad. I shall be going in a few weeks with trepidation. I'm afraid it is.Brash vulgar and tasteless.They even build Downton Abbey.Most of the audience seemed to love it.No Style or artistry.Insipid new songs. No charm. Not for me.
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Post by showgirl on Jul 26, 2016 19:16:26 GMT
I've read 2 bloggers' reviews, both of which were very positive and I am really looking forward to seeing the show next week. If the show really is brash, vulgar and tasteless, maybe the genteel Chichester audience enjoys slumming it for a change?
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Post by mallardo on Jul 26, 2016 23:04:22 GMT
Five stars from Dominic Cavendish in the Telegraph.
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Post by showgirl on Jul 27, 2016 3:28:04 GMT
Three from Libby Purves (Theatrecat), who found it lacked heart.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 27, 2016 9:40:24 GMT
4 Stars from Quentin Letts in the Daily Mail.
This review and the Daily Telegraph I would think is enough to bo get a West End transfer. Wonder if this now lands in the Noel Coward?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 10:40:21 GMT
3* from The Stage 3* from What's on Stage
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 11:37:19 GMT
2* from the guardian
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 11:53:33 GMT
Lyn Gardner's review is so clinically, almost cruelly, analytical and dismissive that one wonders on what basis she awarded her second star!
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 27, 2016 12:52:01 GMT
Despite the re-writes, new numbers and general tinkering, I felt this show remained old fashioned and strangely dated. I just cannot see it being tranferred to London successfully at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 13:11:40 GMT
Noel Coward.
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Post by phantom1986 on Jul 27, 2016 13:32:38 GMT
Cameron will bring it in to save face and because of the few decent reviews. I'm with Lyn Gardner on this one. It's really not good enough besides a lovely design and some choreography. Dreadfully old fashioned and the new songs add nothing. It won't sell a ticket but then again he has the money to spare.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 27, 2016 15:56:17 GMT
If they price it right for senior groups, it could run... ....like Showboat, Mrs. Henderson and The Go Between? Cameron will bring it in to save face and because of the few decent reviews. I'm with Lyn Gardner on this one. It's really not good enough besides a lovely design and some choreography. Dreadfully old fashioned and the new songs add nothing. It won't sell a ticket but then again he has the money to spare. As phantom1986 said above - if Cameron has "money to spare" (burn) perhaps he should buy himself a banjo instead?
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Post by alece10 on Jul 27, 2016 16:36:24 GMT
5 * rave review from Evening Standard.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 27, 2016 16:53:33 GMT
Lyn Gardner really likes nothing, she is typical terminal brig of the reviewers' world. She is typical of someone deputising for the master, who has been unleashed and wants to make an impression.
5 stars from the Evening Standard.
I expect Baz will have a scoop on this tomorrow.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 27, 2016 16:54:59 GMT
Oh Alec you got there before me, I was on the phone mid post. I wonder if you are now tempted to see it? lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 18:21:10 GMT
Lyn Gardner really likes nothing, she is typical terminal brig of the reviewers' world. She is typical of someone deputising for the master, who has been unleashed and wants to make an impression. I daresay Lyn Gardner sees more theatre than any other UK critic, and almost certainly the broadest range, in style, scale and location. Consequently, she has about the best understanding of the context of every show and she always travels in hope, although I agree that she is usually disappointed! And she's absolutely not one of the many lazy and pathetic critics who major on whether or not they personally "like" the show. She analyses it and tells us what it is, which is what makes her review of Half a Sixpence so gloriously and definitively damning! Although, as she chuckles in the Comments, she did try to be kind!
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 27, 2016 19:04:17 GMT
This would be a very risky transfer indeed.
What on earth would appeal to the general public beyond show queens etc? Nothin!
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