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Big Fish
Nov 9, 2017 8:09:04 GMT
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Post by westendcub on Nov 9, 2017 8:09:04 GMT
I disagree with all those reviews especially ‘The Telegraph’ very Pompous critic that seems to hate anything that borders on emotion or matters of the heart.
Don’t read ‘The Stage’ review yet as it contains two major plot spoilers for no good reason.
This is looking like my musical of 2017!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 8:17:46 GMT
I haven't seen the show yet, but Michael Billington's review seems like a combination of his not really liking musicals that much and really just wanting to see a lot of Kelsey Grammer on stage. Hopefully Susannah Clapp will be going too so we can get something a little less leaning-towards-failure-from-the-off from her.
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Post by theatremadness on Nov 9, 2017 8:38:23 GMT
I've always wondered the reason why the Guardian sometimes review things twice with different reviewers? Anyway, you can tell the reactions from people on here who've seen it are pretty genuine so I'm definitely more inclined to listen to you guys! I'm away for the entire run so I wouldn't mind a transfer to be able to see it!
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Post by viserys on Nov 9, 2017 8:45:11 GMT
Billington sounds like a lot of sour grapes.
"I am not sure that right now the world needs a paean to a narcissistic fantasist like Edward(...)" sounds like a dig at Trump and while I detest Trump as much as the next person, I really don't need to see him shoehorned into everything.
And as much as I'm a feminist who likes to see strong women on stage, this: "(...)the women in the story are marginalised(...)" sounds daft to me - it IS far and foremost the story of a father-son-relationship after all and at least Sandra gets to sing what I think is the show's best song.
I hope Ali is right and the critics don't matter much. If word of mouth spreads and the run at the Other Palace sells out, surely a transfer could still happen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 8:50:23 GMT
I've always wondered the reason why the Guardian sometimes review things twice with different reviewers? Often they will review it for the Guardian, then again for the Observer on Sunday - but on the website all the Observer content just appears as Guardian content.
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Post by lonlad on Nov 9, 2017 8:56:05 GMT
Trust me, Susannah Clapp will hate it - SO not her cuppa - that said, I doubt she will bother to see it. Sigh ..... it's SUCH a sweet and warm-hearted production.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 9:18:13 GMT
Meh. Reviewers don't mean anything. I mean they're just people with an opinion writing a load of old nonsense on the interweb.
Oh.
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Big Fish
Nov 9, 2017 9:22:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 9:22:55 GMT
WOS 3 stars Times 3 stars Metro 3 stars ES 3 stars The stage 3 stars London theatre 3 stars Guardian 2 stars Telegraph 2 stars
I doubt it will be transferring anywhere And it will be papering to fill what’s left no doubt
A show which was never a critical hit on Broadway
Has also been received unfavourably here despite being reworked
Enjoy it while you can
It’s also way way below WE standards in terms of staging and budget
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Big Fish
Nov 9, 2017 9:42:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 9:42:59 GMT
In fairness, most dates have few tickets left according to the qebsite, i get some are sent to agencies. in terms of sales, they should be good for its run.
I know they don't mean much, the reviews, but its still frustrating when these reviewers slam shows that audiences love.
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Post by Marwood on Nov 9, 2017 9:44:25 GMT
When I tried to (unsuccessfully) change my tickets for another date, plenty of availability on every single day I looked at (and I look at two weeks worth), so no, not looking likely for a transfer (well not to Broadway anyway, maybe somewhere on the waffles and grits circuit?)
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Post by HereForTheatre on Nov 9, 2017 10:11:38 GMT
WOS 3 stars Times 3 stars Metro 3 stars ES 3 stars The stage 3 stars London theatre 3 stars Guardian 2 stars Telegraph 2 stars I doubt it will be transferring anywhere And it will be papering to fill what’s left no doubt A show which was never a critical hit on Broadway Has also been received unfavourably here despite being reworked Enjoy it while you can It’s also way way below WE standards in terms of staging and budget Are there any show you actually so like or think are good? Other than the ones you have invested in and so have to say is good when actually everyone else thinks is crap and does close?
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Big Fish
Nov 9, 2017 11:32:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 11:32:04 GMT
WOS 3 stars Times 3 stars Metro 3 stars ES 3 stars The stage 3 stars London theatre 3 stars Guardian 2 stars Telegraph 2 stars I doubt it will be transferring anywhere And it will be papering to fill what’s left no doubt A show which was never a critical hit on Broadway Has also been received unfavourably here despite being reworked Enjoy it while you can It’s also way way below WE standards in terms of staging and budget Are there any show you actually so like or think are good? Other than the ones you have invested in and so have to say is good when actually everyone else thinks is crap and does close? 😂
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 11:35:42 GMT
Being a critical hit or not on Broadway means nothing here. Look at Legally Blonde. That wasn't a critical hit there, but it got great reviews here, won a handful of Olivier ran over three years and is now on its second UK Tour!
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Post by MoreLife on Nov 9, 2017 13:03:38 GMT
I haven't seen the show yet, but Michael Billington's review seems like a combination of his not really liking musicals that much and really just wanting to see a lot of Kelsey Grammer on stage. Hopefully Susannah Clapp will be going too so we can get something a little less leaning-towards-failure-from-the-off from her. Which - by the way - would be terribly wrong, since Mr Grammer is a subpar singer and at times looks (pardon the pun) a fish out of water when sharing a number with his younger counterpart, so aptly played (and beautifully sung) by Jamie Muscato. I thought Mr Grammer was definitely the weakest link in the production and could not quite understand what need there was of importing him to the UK for this...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 13:19:56 GMT
I thought Mr Grammer was definitely the weakest link in the production and could not quite understand what need there was of importing him to the UK for this... I'd guess that the majority of the tickets sold for this show are down to his appearance in it . . .
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Big Fish
Nov 9, 2017 13:28:35 GMT
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Post by wickedgrin on Nov 9, 2017 13:28:35 GMT
I felt he was very average and an extremely lucky actor
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 13:39:22 GMT
Being a critical hit or not on Broadway means nothing here. Look at Legally Blonde. That wasn't a critical hit there, but it got great reviews here, won a handful of Olivier ran over three years and is now on its second UK Tour! Legally Blonde got much better reviews than Big Fish has garnered At least some 4 and many 3 stars
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Post by TallPaul on Nov 9, 2017 13:40:03 GMT
Two (French) words regarding reviews and future success - Les Miserables.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 13:44:56 GMT
And Wicked! That didn't get the best reviews when it opened in New York... and here we are.
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Post by adambloodworth on Nov 9, 2017 14:18:12 GMT
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Post by ali973 on Nov 9, 2017 14:23:20 GMT
No one cares about reviews in the UK. It's not a deal breaker.
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Nov 9, 2017 14:26:16 GMT
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Post by paplazaroo on Nov 9, 2017 14:26:16 GMT
Saw this last night and agree with the reviews, it’s pretty poor! Lots of sniffling at the end but I’d be willing to bet they were just people who have lost their own fathers as the piece doesn’t earn it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 14:26:22 GMT
Did you have anything to do with that bit on Company in the Metro the other day?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 14:29:50 GMT
No one cares about reviews in the UK. It's not a deal breaker. Yes I am sure they are really happy with the reviews
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Post by adambloodworth on Nov 9, 2017 14:46:22 GMT
Did you have anything to do with that bit on Company in the Metro the other day? Afraid not!
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