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Post by foxa on Dec 11, 2017 21:10:11 GMT
As Jadnoop says - some more tickets available. I picked up one for tomorrow afternoon's performance.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Dec 11, 2017 22:33:48 GMT
As Jadnoop says - some more tickets available. I picked up one for tomorrow afternoon's performance. Looks like they have all gone?  |
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Post by foxa on Dec 12, 2017 8:32:05 GMT
Sorry. Two extra afternoon performances were announced on Twitter which is where I saw it and grabbed mine. Plus there were Monday rush tickets for it (and I think are some for subsequent Mondays.)
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Post by TallPaul on Dec 12, 2017 13:29:40 GMT
They've all gone because parsley has recommended it!
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Post by zahidf on Dec 13, 2017 10:50:13 GMT
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A JOINT STATEMENT FROM
THE ROYAL COURT THEATRE AND OUT OF JOINT
The Royal Court Theatre and Out of Joint have chosen not to present the current touring production of Rita Sue and Bob Too at the Royal Court in January 2018. It was due to run for 2 and a half weeks.
The departure of Max Stafford-Clark from Out of Joint and the recent allegations in the media have coincided with the Royal Court’s response to the spotlight on our industry and the rigorous interrogation of our own practices. On our stage we recently heard 150 stories of sexual harassment and abuse and therefore the staging of this work, with its themes of grooming and abuses of power on young women, on that same stage now feels highly conflictual.
The show has successfully toured to ten venues this Autumn and we remain incredibly proud that the shared collaboration made the tour possible.
Out of Joint is now a company in transition, facing its future, a future which the Royal Court whole-heartedly supports and looks forward to being part of through the current development of a new co-commission. "
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 11:11:22 GMT
" A JOINT STATEMENT FROM THE ROYAL COURT THEATRE AND OUT OF JOINT The Royal Court Theatre and Out of Joint have chosen not to present the current touring production of Rita Sue and Bob Too at the Royal Court in January 2018. It was due to run for 2 and a half weeks. The departure of Max Stafford-Clark from Out of Joint and the recent allegations in the media have coincided with the Royal Court’s response to the spotlight on our industry and the rigorous interrogation of our own practices. On our stage we recently heard 150 stories of sexual harassment and abuse and therefore the staging of this work, with its themes of grooming and abuses of power on young women, on that same stage now feels highly conflictual. The show has successfully toured to ten venues this Autumn and we remain incredibly proud that the shared collaboration made the tour possible. Out of Joint is now a company in transition, facing its future, a future which the Royal Court whole-heartedly supports and looks forward to being part of through the current development of a new co-commission. " I can’t quite believe the reason the RC are giving for this They are showing a play there at the moment about 2 men who groom drug and kill lone women I am also amazed that this beacon of free speech has started sh*tting it’s pants so much Is this due to oversensitive female AD? She does often come across a “do gooder” The irony is that the play was written by a woman and is a historical piece in more ways than one There is also a play mocking the Syrian regime playing there This reason of “conflict” is a worrying sign of self censorship and hiding away from media and arts forms which raise the issues seems bizarre and stupid |
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Post by zahidf on Dec 13, 2017 11:23:15 GMT
" A JOINT STATEMENT FROM THE ROYAL COURT THEATRE AND OUT OF JOINT The Royal Court Theatre and Out of Joint have chosen not to present the current touring production of Rita Sue and Bob Too at the Royal Court in January 2018. It was due to run for 2 and a half weeks. The departure of Max Stafford-Clark from Out of Joint and the recent allegations in the media have coincided with the Royal Court’s response to the spotlight on our industry and the rigorous interrogation of our own practices. On our stage we recently heard 150 stories of sexual harassment and abuse and therefore the staging of this work, with its themes of grooming and abuses of power on young women, on that same stage now feels highly conflictual. The show has successfully toured to ten venues this Autumn and we remain incredibly proud that the shared collaboration made the tour possible. Out of Joint is now a company in transition, facing its future, a future which the Royal Court whole-heartedly supports and looks forward to being part of through the current development of a new co-commission. " I can’t quite believe the reason the RC are giving for this They are showing a play there at the moment about 2 men who groom drug and kill lone women I am also amazed that this beacon of free speech has started sh*tting it’s pants so much Is this due to oversensitive female AD? She does often come across a “do gooder” The irony is that the play was written by a woman and is a historical piece in more ways than one There is also a play mocking the Syrian regime playing there This reason of “conflict” is a worrying sign of self censorship and hiding away from media and arts forms which raise the issues seems bizarre and stupid Bit different: Stafford Clark is associate with this play and Out of Joint, so I suspect its too sensitive a political situation
Much like cancelling Kevin Spaceys stuff
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 11:33:05 GMT
I can’t quite believe the reason the RC are giving for this They are showing a play there at the moment about 2 men who groom drug and kill lone women I am also amazed that this beacon of free speech has started sh*tting it’s pants so much Is this due to oversensitive female AD? She does often come across a “do gooder” The irony is that the play was written by a woman and is a historical piece in more ways than one There is also a play mocking the Syrian regime playing there This reason of “conflict” is a worrying sign of self censorship and hiding away from media and arts forms which raise the issues seems bizarre and stupid Bit different: Stafford Clark is associate with this play and Out of Joint, so I suspect its too sensitive a political situation
Much like cancelling Kevin Spaceys stuff
The play is still going to Wales and Scotland And has been to 10 venues already It was playing those venues during the Allegations It’s just not the sort of weakness I expect from the RC |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 11:34:57 GMT
I can’t quite believe the reason the RC are giving for this They are showing a play there at the moment about 2 men who groom drug and kill lone women I am also amazed that this beacon of free speech has started sh*tting it’s pants so much Is this due to oversensitive female AD? She does often come across a “do gooder” The irony is that the play was written by a woman and is a historical piece in more ways than one There is also a play mocking the Syrian regime playing there This reason of “conflict” is a worrying sign of self censorship and hiding away from media and arts forms which raise the issues seems bizarre and stupid Bit different: Stafford Clark is associate with this play and Out of Joint, so I suspect its too sensitive a political situation
Much like cancelling Kevin Spaceys stuff
He hasn’t written it nor is he directing it It was in fact Written by a woman and this production is being directed by a femal director Next thing we know the RC will be programming the sort of sh*t new plays the NT do For fear of offending anyone The world we live in is so Pathetic now |
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Post by jadnoop on Dec 13, 2017 11:45:18 GMT
Next thing we know the RC will be programming the sort of sh*t new plays the NT do For fear of offending anyone As someone who rages against others bending what they do 'for fear of offending anyone' you sure edited your previous comment very quickly. Why not keep it as it originally ended, which was "This is what happens when you have a female leading a theatre". |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 12:49:55 GMT
Next thing we know the RC will be programming the sort of sh*t new plays the NT do For fear of offending anyone As someone who rages against others bending what they do 'for fear of offending anyone' you sure edited your previous comment very quickly. Why not keep it as it originally ended, which was "This is what happens when you have a female leading a theatre". Fine I think it is The other 10 venues have managed to show the play Or you somehow think cancelling the run at the RC Is going to help resolve the underlying issue You are much mistaken It an erroneous stand That will achieve nothing A hollow and empty gesture The AD would be better off going and working for a charity Rather than this role |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 13:00:14 GMT
The Royal Court and Out of Joint have jointly explained that there'd be a conflict if this were presented now on the same stage which was the national focus for sexual harassment in the theatre industry.
The Royal Court isn't simply one of eleven touring venues. It's one of the three co-producers, with Out of Joint (who've jointly issued this statement) and the Octagon Theatre Bolton (where the production opened).
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Post by jadnoop on Dec 13, 2017 13:08:28 GMT
As someone who rages against others bending what they do 'for fear of offending anyone' you sure edited your previous comment very quickly. Why not keep it as it originally ended, which was "This is what happens when you have a female leading a theatre". Fine. I think it is The other 10 venues have managed to show the play Or you somehow think cancelling the run at the RC Is going to help resolve the underlying issue You are much mistaken It an erroneous stand That will achieve nothing A hollow and empty gesture The AD would be better off going and working for a charity Rather than this role For what it's worth, I agree that there's an issue with trying to remove certain topics from the arts for fear of offending/worrying the public. After all, part of the point of the arts (in my opinion anyway) is to examine these things, and actively trying to remove unpleasant aspect of humanity from the arts doesn't help dealing with those issues. However, IMO what you're ignoring is that we are *still within* this tide. And just as you might temper your behaviour around someone who was going through a bad time, I think it's completely understandable that venues might try to adapt their scheduling *temporarily* given that the artform is still moving towards a new status quo. That's both a practical/commercial factor (in terms of the potential negative publicity when a play connected to MSC was put on), and probably a sensitivity to the fact that theatre isn't yet 'out of the woods'. And I think you're stretching credibility a little by equating the fact that a curator might adjust their programming based on a mix of personal & commercial views with something to be expected from a charity. edit: To be clear, when I say that part of the point of the arts is "to examine [humanity, warts & all]", I don't mean "to educate". However, to some extent, whether a member of the audience feels that a given book/play/film is too preachy is as much a reflection of the audience as the creator. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 17:42:48 GMT
The Royal Court and Out of Joint have jointly explained that there'd be a conflict if this were presented now on the same stage which was the national focus for sexual harassment in the theatre industry. This for me is part of the problem. The Royal Court Theatre - which formerly had Max Stafford-Clark as an artistic director - issued statements and held events in response to allegations being publicly made against certain figures in the theatre industry, and in doing so became the "national focus" in addressing the problem of sexual harassment in theatre. While I do not wish to denigrate that in any way, it places the theatre in a new role - one that felt like the theatre was deliberately cultivating - and with that comes new perceived responsibility. If becoming the "national focus" means the Royal Court now feel like they cannot produce certain work then I personally think that is counter-productive, and puts an unhelpful limit on a theatre that should feel free to produce almost anything. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 17:47:55 GMT
I will be a total bitch
As I am annoyed
But VF needs to go to a different clothes shop
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Post by jadnoop on Dec 13, 2017 18:02:09 GMT
The Royal Court and Out of Joint have jointly explained that there'd be a conflict if this were presented now on the same stage which was the national focus for sexual harassment in the theatre industry. This for me is part of the problem. The Royal Court Theatre - which formerly had Max Stafford-Clark as an artistic director - issued statements and held events in response to allegations being publicly made against certain figures in the theatre industry, and in doing so became the "national focus" in addressing the problem of sexual harassment in theatre. While I do not wish to denigrate that in any way, it places the theatre in a new role - one that felt like the theatre was deliberately cultivating - and with that comes new perceived responsibility. If becoming the "national focus" means the Royal Court now feel like they cannot produce certain work then I personally think that is counter-productive, and puts an unhelpful limit on a theatre that should feel free to produce almost anything. But do people (or institutions) really compartmentalise things quite as simply as that? What I mean is that while you might say that they 'should feel free to produce almost anything' (which I absolutely agree with incidentally), surely it's unavoidable that what they choose to do will inevitably be viewed through the lens of MSC and the wider issue of sexism in the arts, at least for the forseeable future. What I mean is that, while they have chosen to take on a certain role, even if they hadn't done so their decisions about shows/actors/writers/etc are all still going to be fundamentally affected by this issue anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 18:32:36 GMT
Yet again, this subject is turned by some people (again, mostly men) from being a specific response to a specific production into a thing about everything that happens for years to come.
This play is a specific problem, it is so because of its genesis, its subject matter and its original director who worked with the writer on shaping it.
Now, if there are likely no more than a handful of plays that this takes off the table for the Court then so be it. If you want to go ahead and shout about artistic expression over a few specific plays (that could be produced elsewhere in any case, and without the unfortunate resonance) then you are totally misunderstanding the situation and the response to it. Maybe it’s overdramatisation or, sadly and conceivably, a cover for reactionaries to beat certain people or sections of society with (just as the far right have tried to twist #metoo) but it’s too blatant a reaction to let go without comment.
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Post by wiggymess on Dec 13, 2017 22:44:41 GMT
I will be a total bitch As I am annoyed But VF needs to go to a different clothes shop I really don't understand, do you think you're being edgy sat at your computer typing this sort of sh*te? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 23:53:45 GMT
I will be a total bitch As I am annoyed But VF needs to go to a different clothes shop I really don't understand, do you think you're being edgy sat at your computer typing this sort of sh*te? No I was really upset I am better now thanks for asking |
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Post by zahidf on Jan 25, 2018 10:53:56 GMT
Very quiet as to the next set of plays post April. Any ideas when this is announced?
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Post by Rory on Feb 6, 2018 16:09:42 GMT
Very quiet as to the next set of plays post April. Any ideas when this is announced? Surely the new season announcement must be due any day now? Downstairs is dark after 17th March. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 10:41:28 GMT
Every morning when I wake, I think: Today must be the day. But it isn't. Yet.
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