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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 18:19:44 GMT
Two suggestions, probably a bit silly, but would the Vaudeville or Apollo be too small? I can't think of any mid-size houses that are going to be available unless there are some sudden closures. I too wondered about the Apollo. However they haven't had an open-ended run since the closure of Curious (I believe). I personally think the Vaudeville would be too cosy, but Noel Coward would suit it well. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 18:22:23 GMT
Two suggestions, probably a bit silly, but would the Vaudeville or Apollo be too small? I can't think of any mid-size houses that are going to be available unless there are some sudden closures. I too wondered about the Apollo. However they haven't had an open-ended run since the closure of Curious (I believe). I personally think the Vaudeville would be too cosy, but Noel Coward would suit it well. Vaudeville, no way! I have too wondered about the Apollo and Noel Coward, and both would be good venues for it, but it would be a tight squeeze int the wings. Other than that, could work! What about The Playhouse? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 18:28:20 GMT
Could be poifect! I think it would benefit from a home closer to the main hub around Leicester Square though, it has such gorgeous artwork deserving of much more than a neon sign  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 18:56:48 GMT
The trouble is, alot of shows are being a tad stupid in all honesty. 42nd Street are insane to go to the Drury Lane, I have a feeling The Girls should of gone to a different theatre too, possibly the Noel Coward. Nah I don't think them two shows were stupid in the theatres they chose. 42nd Street is well known and it will bring in audiences for its show but also because they said they will be getting star names which always helps too. It's a grand musical revival so it should do well at a nice theatre like Drury Lane, even if it's a limited season! I think The Girls was right going to the Phoenix. It's only 1,012 seats so that's not much more than somethig like the playhouse to be honest. People will probably want to see that due to the well known film and how Gary Barlow is behind it |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 19:02:04 GMT
The trouble is, alot of shows are being a tad stupid in all honesty. 42nd Street are insane to go to the Drury Lane, I have a feeling The Girls should of gone to a different theatre too, possibly the Noel Coward. Nah I don't think them two shows were stupid in the theatres they chose. 42nd Street is well known and it will bring in audiences for its show but also because they said they will be getting star names which always helps too. It's a grand musical revival so it should do well at a nice theatre like Drury Lane, even if it's a limited season! I think The Girls was right going to the Phoenix. It's only 1,012 seats so that's not much more than somethig like the playhouse to be honest. People will probably want to see that due to the well known film and how Gary Barlow is behind it 42nd Sreet isn't as well known as you would think. In the Musical Theatre world, but General Public, it isn't that well known, and certainly not in a theatre of that size. It will have to be a stellar production with huge promotion and advertising to sustain. With The Girls, the theatre was the only one available so it couldn't be helped. I think again, the best way to go is to show the Gary Barlow aspect alot in the advertising. Remember Bend It is a well known film too and the show lasted 10 months which is OK in this day and age but still. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 19:10:56 GMT
The Girls should have gone into the Noel Coward and Finding Neverland into the Phoenix. Finding Neverland in the Phoenix could run for years and years
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 19:14:44 GMT
The Girls should have gone into the Noel Coward and Finding Neverland into the Phoenix. Finding Neverland in the Phoenix could run for years and years We joke, but I imagine, of the two, Finding Neverland would have the bigger chance of success I would imagine, I cast right and promoted well etc. I feel The Girls will suffer because the show already exists as a play. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 19:18:48 GMT
The Girls should have gone into the Noel Coward and Finding Neverland into the Phoenix. Finding Neverland in the Phoenix could run for years and years We joke, but I imagine, of the two, Finding Neverland would have the bigger chance of success I would imagine, I cast right and promoted well etc. I feel The Girls will suffer because the show already exists as a play. Very true. Although I do think The Girls could be a very good musical if done right. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 19:21:45 GMT
We joke, but I imagine, of the two, Finding Neverland would have the bigger chance of success I would imagine, I cast right and promoted well etc. I feel The Girls will suffer because the show already exists as a play. Very true. Although I do think The Girls could be a very good musical if done right. I cant wait to see it and see how it is done etc. But audiences could potentially be detered away if they saw the original play. I imagine it will have a respectful run, it may see out a year.  |
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Post by zak97 on Aug 22, 2016 19:26:30 GMT
If they market both shows around Gary Barlow they could be strong successes. The Girls has a strong set of middle aged women supporters due to Gary and if the Neverland Twitter copy this I wouldn't be surprised if a strong set of repeat visitors develop, probably hoping to see Gary one night.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 19:28:47 GMT
On a fanbase/repeat viewing basis, Neverland definitely has the edge!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 19:34:00 GMT
I think Finding Neverland is probably a more spectacular show as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 19:43:09 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if the Shaftsbury theatre became available soon.
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Post by Michael on Aug 22, 2016 20:01:45 GMT
Motown and this? A choice between the devil and the deep blue sea.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 20:02:21 GMT
42nd Sreet isn't as well known as you would think. In the Musical Theatre world, but General Public, it isn't that well known, and certainly not in a theatre of that size. The last time that show was in that theatre it did well enough, and it was probably less well known then than it is now. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 20:08:00 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if the Shaftsbury theatre became available soon. I thought Motown was thriving though? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 20:26:12 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if the Shaftsbury theatre became available soon. I thought Motown was thriving though? I don't know. I just have a feeling it won't last very long. There didn't seem to be a big buzz about it after it opened either, which usually does happen with new shows. Even Mrs Henderson Presents seemed to be more talked about |
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Post by Raven on Aug 22, 2016 20:40:57 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if the Shaftsbury theatre became available soon. I thought Motown was thriving though? Yeah, I was under the impression that this was selling surprisingly well. It's not a musical that appeals to me so I've never booked it but having a look online at the seat maps it does actually look like it is selling reasonably well considering how big the Shaftesbury is. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 21:21:41 GMT
The Girls should have gone into the Noel Coward and Finding Neverland into the Phoenix. Finding Neverland in the Phoenix could run for years and years I don't think it would run for years and years in any theatre to be honest. It isn't a really well known film and people don't really know the story and some aren't interested in how Peter Pan was made. As for The Girls, it is a British musical based on a loved film. I do think the following from Barlow will help though. I'm interested to see who they've cast and if there's a name there or not... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 21:24:03 GMT
I thought Motown was thriving though? I don't know. I just have a feeling it won't last very long. There didn't seem to be a big buzz about it after it opened either, which usually does happen with new shows. Even Mrs Henderson Presents seemed to be more talked about No I think Motown is doing really well!! When I went it was packed out and they're doing well in terms of box office. I think this will stay here for a while - people go knowing they'll get good songs like Mamma Mia etc. It only opened in Feb so it'll be open at lot longer |
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Post by zak97 on Aug 22, 2016 21:26:00 GMT
The Girls should have gone into the Noel Coward and Finding Neverland into the Phoenix. Finding Neverland in the Phoenix could run for years and years I don't think it would run for years and years in any theatre to be honest. It isn't a really well known film and people don't really know the story and some aren't interested in how Peter Pan was made. As for The Girls, it is a British musical based on a loved film. I do think the following from Barlow will help though. I'm interested to see who they've cast and if there's a name there or not... I don't think it's a story that really needs a name to it, and on that basis I will hope that if they take a name it will be a name that can do the show it's full justice, and ideally it's not a name in one of the big parts as I hope MT performers get the leads. |
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Post by zak97 on Aug 22, 2016 21:27:10 GMT
I don't know. I just have a feeling it won't last very long. There didn't seem to be a big buzz about it after it opened either, which usually does happen with new shows. Even Mrs Henderson Presents seemed to be more talked about No I think Motown is doing really well!! When I went it was packed out and they're doing well in terms of box office. I think this will stay here for a while - people go knowing they'll get good songs like Mamma Mia etc. It only opened in Feb so it'll be open at lot longer It's booking till October next year, so we surely won't get Finding Neverland in the Shaftesbury, especially as they are billing this show for January. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 21:27:20 GMT
The Girls should have gone into the Noel Coward and Finding Neverland into the Phoenix. Finding Neverland in the Phoenix could run for years and years I don't think it would run for years and years in any theatre to be honest. It isn't a really well known film and people don't really know the story and some aren't interested in how Peter Pan was made. As for The Girls, it is a British musical based on a loved film. I do think the following from Barlow will help though. I'm interested to see who they've cast and if there's a name there or not... Just to clarify, both are equally as popular. Financially Neverland did slightly better, making $116.8 million whilst Calendar Girls made $96.5 million at the box office. So each has equal success. Both can play off the Barlow aspect. Neverland can use the advantage of the Broadway run and if they can cast the two/three leads well then it can be a hit. With The Girls, I think it will need to also be smart in its casting. Both need to be smart in its casting, even in just one role. But they need casting that is not the cheesy, horrible celeb casting of late, but casting of someone who is famous, but for their stage credits as well as film and television and can hold the stage, rather than throw some random celeb just for the sake of selling tickets. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 21:31:56 GMT
I don't think it would run for years and years in any theatre to be honest. It isn't a really well known film and people don't really know the story and some aren't interested in how Peter Pan was made. As for The Girls, it is a British musical based on a loved film. I do think the following from Barlow will help though. I'm interested to see who they've cast and if there's a name there or not... Just to clarify, both are equally as popular. Financially Neverland did slightly better, making $116.8 million whilst Calendar Girls made $96.5 million at the box office. So each has equal success. Both can play off the Barlow aspect. Neverland can use the advantage of the Broadway run and if they can cast the two/three leads well then it can be a hit. With The Girls, I think it will need to also be smart in its casting. Both need to be smart in its casting, even in just one role. But they need casting that is not the cheesy, horrible celeb casting of late, but casting of someone who is famous, but for their stage credits as well as film and television and can hold the stage, rather than throw some random celeb just for the sake of selling tickets. I agree. I'd love to see them have atleast one name in the main role but I think they should have that one celebrity who is an amazing actress and has good credits behind her name. Just one celebrity would be nice but they should be a good actress. I'd personally love to see Celia Imrie reprise her role |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 21:33:59 GMT
I don't think it would run for years and years in any theatre to be honest. It isn't a really well known film and people don't really know the story and some aren't interested in how Peter Pan was made. As for The Girls, it is a British musical based on a loved film. I do think the following from Barlow will help though. I'm interested to see who they've cast and if there's a name there or not... Just to clarify, both are equally as popular. Financially Neverland did slightly better, making $116.8 million whilst Calendar Girls made $96.5 million at the box office. So each has equal success. Both can play off the Barlow aspect. Neverland can use the advantage of the Broadway run and if they can cast the two/three leads well then it can be a hit. With The Girls, I think it will need to also be smart in its casting. Both need to be smart in its casting, even in just one role. But they need casting that is not the cheesy, horrible celeb casting of late, but casting of someone who is famous, but for their stage credits as well as film and television and can hold the stage, rather than throw some random celeb just for the sake of selling tickets. Couldn't agree more. The Calendar Girls play's casting was a fromage fest. I think Kelsey in Finding Neverland will do it a lot of good I should imagine. |
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