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Post by Jon on Jul 20, 2018 14:05:54 GMT
If children don't understand the idea of a beating vagina*, it'll wash over them and be gone entirely by the end of the film. If they do, then it's FAR too late to start worrying about their innocence. *I don't think the word needs to be censored, it's the proper name for a body part possessed by a great many people.  If wank can be uncensored then vagina should be! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 14:33:34 GMT
Loved it.
Better than the first and shows that movie musicals can be cheesy and still be genuine (ahem Greatest Showman).
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Post by sf on Jul 20, 2018 17:27:22 GMT
It's a musical with Abba songs, it's almost impossible not to sing along! Try. Please. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 18:51:57 GMT
I'm surprised that it only got a PG rating, in the US it's PG-13 which is the equivalent of 12A here. The reality seems to be that because a US "G" rating is taken by the audience to mean "crap for infants" the equivalents are shifted by about one level: many US "PG" films are released as "U" in the UK. In the UK a film can get a "U" rating if it contains brief non-sexual nudity. In the US it would get a "PG" or probably a "PG-13" rating. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 20, 2018 19:02:12 GMT
Wow did it not occur to you to be considerate to your fellow audience members? They didn't pay to hear you or anyone else sing along, that's not the purpose of a cinema! If you want to sing along, do so in your own living room, not in public If I'd been in your screening I'd have been telling you to be quiet and getting the ushers involved if you weren't! Have a bit of respect for the people around you! That is a fair point and I'm not going to argue with you. All I will say is that my memories of seeing the first one were of a crowd where singing along was almost part of the film itself. It's a musical with Abba songs, it's almost impossible not to sing along! Besides which, the sound was so loud I'm pretty sure it drowned out any singing I was doing (I wasn't absolutely belting to try to be louder, just singing to myself). If you did that while I was in the same cinema I’d have you removed. How incredibly disrespectful to anyone else watching it. People who sing along to shows and films think it’s funny. It’s not. It’s incredibly annoying. |
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Post by Jon on Jul 20, 2018 19:07:27 GMT
I'm surprised that it only got a PG rating, in the US it's PG-13 which is the equivalent of 12A here. The reality seems to be that because a US "G" rating is taken by the audience to mean "crap for infants" the equivalents are shifted by about one level: many US "PG" films are released as "U" in the UK. In the UK a film can get a "U" rating if it contains brief non-sexual nudity. In the US it would get a "PG" or probably a "PG-13" rating. The BBFC's main concern is violent whereas as the MPAA's main concern is sex and language. Men in Black 3 in the UK was a PG which was odd because it had one swear word in it whereas it got PG-13 but sometimes the BBFC can give higher ratings, Suicide Squad was a 15 in the UK but a PG-13 in the US because of the violence and a scene where a character's head is blown up, The Mummy with Tom Cruise was also a 15 too. |
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Post by sf on Jul 20, 2018 19:46:33 GMT
That is a fair point and I'm not going to argue with you. All I will say is that my memories of seeing the first one were of a crowd where singing along was almost part of the film itself. It's a musical with Abba songs, it's almost impossible not to sing along! Besides which, the sound was so loud I'm pretty sure it drowned out any singing I was doing (I wasn't absolutely belting to try to be louder, just singing to myself). If you did that while I was in the same cinema I’d have you removed. How incredibly disrespectful to anyone else watching it. People who sing along to shows and films think it’s funny. It’s not. It’s incredibly annoying.
Exactly - and yes, I'd have called an usher too. Unless it's specifically advertised as a singalong screening, singing along in the cinema (or the theatre, come to that) is absolutely unacceptable behaviour: boorish, self-absorbed, disrespectful, and spectacularly inconsiderate of everyone else in the auditorium.
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 20, 2018 19:57:48 GMT
If you did that while I was in the same cinema I’d have you removed. How incredibly disrespectful to anyone else watching it. People who sing along to shows and films think it’s funny. It’s not. It’s incredibly annoying.
Exactly - and yes, I'd have called an usher too. Unless it's specifically advertised as a singalong screening, singing along in the cinema (or the theatre, come to that) is absolutely unacceptable behaviour: boorish, self-absorbed, disrespectful, and spectacularly inconsiderate of everyone else in the auditorium.
Wow. OK I'll be honest I didn't expect this much of a reaction. A few things then. One. Perhaps I wasn't clear in my original post. Yes I was singing along. Not anywhere near full volume and making sure I wasn't being too loud, the film was IMAX and thus deafiningly loud, the music was many, many decibels higher than my quiet singing to myself. Second. I heard one or two others singing along, and I cannot believe for one second that I'm the only one who will sing along to this campy ABBA jukebox musical. Third. If anybody had told me to be quiet or that I was being disruptive then of course I would have been. I'm the first to call out people talking at plays or films that aren't musicals. I am truly sorry that I appear to have upset so many here. Not my intention at all. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 20, 2018 20:14:46 GMT
Exactly - and yes, I'd have called an usher too. Unless it's specifically advertised as a singalong screening, singing along in the cinema (or the theatre, come to that) is absolutely unacceptable behaviour: boorish, self-absorbed, disrespectful, and spectacularly inconsiderate of everyone else in the auditorium.
Wow. OK I'll be honest I didn't expect this much of a reaction. A few things then. One. Perhaps I wasn't clear in my original post. Yes I was singing along. Not anywhere near full volume and making sure I wasn't being too loud, the film was IMAX and thus deafiningly loud, the music was many, many decibels higher than my quiet singing to myself. Second. I heard one or two others singing along, and I cannot believe for one second that I'm the only one who will sing along to this campy ABBA jukebox musical. Third. If anybody had told me to be quiet or that I was being disruptive then of course I would have been. I'm the first to call out people talking at plays or films that aren't musicals. I am truly sorry that I appear to have upset so many here. Not my intention at all. You don’t need to apologise.. just never sing in a cinema I’m sat in. Sadly most people would sit there being annoyed by it and have it Ruin there experience, being too worrie to say something. I would simply not stand for it. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 20, 2018 20:16:30 GMT
I don't remember much innuendo at all, but was very surprised by a blatant line from Christine Baranski's character. Something about her getting feelings in her vagina. unless they have cut it since the crew screening. It's not suitable for this film. I originally wrote that it didn't fit, but that was too much innuendo. I saw the film this morning (there were 28 people in). The line IS in the film, and is "be still my beating va****". I was a bit surprised by it too, especially as there were a couple of children in the audience. I enjoyed the film overall, especially as it took me back to my teenage years when I became an ABBA fan and bought a lot of the songs featured in the film (showing my age). I nearly had a tear in my eye in the church scene near the end. The one negative comment I have is that in my humble opinion Dominic Cooper can't act and definitely can't sing. Dominic cooper is probably the luckiest person in showbiz (apart from James Corden). He is totally devoid of talent. Plus I know people who have worked with him and he is the most arrogant person they have ever met- and they’ve worked with MUCH bigger stars. |
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Post by andrew on Jul 20, 2018 20:27:35 GMT
It's not a personal drag, but it really drives me crazy when people want to sing along in a theatre or cinema (if it's not a specific singalong event)... I mean, don't you actually want to hear the songs you paid to listen to? The voices? The orchestrations? You really love the sound of your own voice THAT much?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 20:29:14 GMT
Reports are saying the film is expected to take $44 million in the US on its opening weekend. Impressive considering the overall box office in the US for the first one was $144 million. Thursday night previews in the US took $3.4 million at the box office.  |
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Post by sf on Jul 20, 2018 20:55:48 GMT
Wow. OK I'll be honest I didn't expect this much of a reaction. A few things then. One. Perhaps I wasn't clear in my original post. Yes I was singing along. Not anywhere near full volume and making sure I wasn't being too loud, If you were singing along AT ALL, you were being too loud. It's a cinema, not your living-room. |
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Post by theatreian on Jul 20, 2018 21:20:27 GMT
I frankly cannot believe all these negative comments . This film (and I have not seen it yet) is a musical, a feelgood happy experience. I have been to many theatre musicals where most of the audience seems to be singing. Abba songs are so well known that is it really all that bad if a fan wants to sing along for the odd song or line. Things are getting very bad when we have to deride someone for enjoying themselves. Lighten up.
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Post by Jon on Jul 20, 2018 21:29:53 GMT
It's not a personal drag, but it really drives me crazy when people want to sing along in a theatre or cinema (if it's not a specific singalong event)... I mean, don't you actually want to hear the songs you paid to listen to? The voices? The orchestrations? You really love the sound of your own voice THAT much? I don't mind people miming to songs because it's not as distracting but singing along is a no-no. It's in Kermode and Mayo's Cinema Code of Conduct at number 6. www.bbc.co.uk/5live/films/code_of_conduct.pdf |
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Post by alicechallice on Jul 20, 2018 21:38:22 GMT
So, I quite (sort of) enjoyed it though even though it's a better film than the first one, it definitely wasn't as enjoyable. The lack of Meryl is really felt and though the flashbacks were well done, I'd have much rather had a sequel involving her. The inclusion of Cher seemed a bit desperate (Fernando aside). Rosie and Tanya's scenes were great but there weren't enough of them. Also, there was a distinct lack of bass in the cinema (anyone else have this issue?), so the musical numbers never really took off. Though the last 20 mins were lovely and young Bill was my favourite of the shags.
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Post by distantcousin on Jul 20, 2018 21:38:27 GMT
It's not a personal drag, but it really drives me crazy when people want to sing along in a theatre or cinema (if it's not a specific singalong event)... I mean, don't you actually want to hear the songs you paid to listen to? The voices? The orchestrations? You really love the sound of your own voice THAT much? I don't mind people miming to songs because it's not as distracting but singing along is a no-no. It's in Kermode and Mayo's Cinema Code of Conduct at number 6. www.bbc.co.uk/5live/films/code_of_conduct.pdfI've lost track of the shows and musical films I've mimed along to for all my worth! |
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Post by david on Jul 20, 2018 21:41:23 GMT
Having just seen the film tonight is WOW! It was everything I hoped it would be and so much more. I laughed and cried for 2hrs. Being a massive fan of both the stage musical as well as the film adaptation, the sequel for me had so much to live upto and it did that with ease. I don’t know if it was better than the original, but MM2 for me certainly had a different feel to it which is what I was looking for rather than just a carbon copy of the original.
With regards the musical score, it just sounded great on the big screen. What was nice was that as well as the big numbers already released, was the different instrumental versions of ABBA songs within the scenes themselves. I thought the songs from the first film where used to great effect and gave a slightly different interepretation of them rather than being a carbon copy from MM1. With the new songs, I absolutely loved them all. With the different range of songs used showed the creative genius of Benny and Bjorn to write both great pop numbers as well as those heartfelt emotional ballards. For me Angel Eyes was the best comedy song in the film. Julie Walters is definitely the star in that song. I couldn’t stop laughing for the entire song. One song I thought was better in the film than in the stage show was One of Us. The way it was filmed really brought the lyrics to life. I wish they had done the entire Knowing Me, Knowing You as that is the one song that I cannot stop listening to after Dancing Queen. Cher’s interpretation of Fernando was absolute class as she nailed that song. Though the 2 songs that brought me to tears was I’ve been waiting for you and my love, my life. I defy anybody not to be moved by those songs in this film.
Even though Cher isn’t in the film that much, her scenes are absolute gold and that lady has such sass that you cannot help but love her when she is on screen and you would definitely want a gran like her. Is it me or she getting younger and younger over the years? Her voice is stunning even after 50 yrs in the business. Meryl Streep’s appearance is used to great effect and for me gave one of the most emotional moments in the entire film. Lily James really has a great voice for these songs, and the young dynamos are a great double act.
Overall, an absolutely fantastic film and will definitely bring a smile to your face. For those yet to see it, stay until the credits have finished as there a a short post credits scene which is very funny.
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Post by isabel on Jul 20, 2018 22:05:47 GMT
Just back from cinema.
Over all in my opinion not totally convinced by this film . Felt like it was lacking something. Wasn't as much fun
Lily James was fantastic though
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 22:46:45 GMT
The lack of Meryl is really felt and though the flashbacks were well done, I'd have much rather had a sequel involving her. I thought I'd feel that way but actually I disagree entirely. I thought Lily James was fantastic - so charismatic and completely captured the spirit and character of Donna. Not having Meryl in the rest of the film made the point when she did appear so much more poignant and meaningful. As far as I'm concerned it was pitched exactly right. |
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Post by sf on Jul 20, 2018 22:48:27 GMT
I have been to many theatre musicals where most of the audience seems to be singing. And that, right there, is the reason the front of house staff really need to be armed with electric cattle prods. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 23:00:27 GMT
Well I just loved that- smile on my face the whole time except the 5 minutes I was sobbing near the end. What a treat of a movie!
Yes, the plot is pretty ridiculous but the switches between present day and flashbacks are well constructed. More importantly though, beneath all of that is a lot of heart, especially from the performances of Pierce Brosnan, Amanda Seyfried, Lily James and of course Meryl, all of whom were excellent. I had no idea Lily James was such a good singer!
Christine Baranski and Julie Walters steal the show again, and their younger versions deserve praise for getting the accents and mannerisms perfect - all the scenes with younger or older Tanya and Rosie were hilarious. The younger versions of Sam, Bill and Harry were also great - Waterloo is the most ridiculous thing I have seen in a long time (in a good way) and I won't be able to get those images out if my mind for a while! Cher is Cher is Cher - she takes over just by being there, and Fernando was possibly the funniest part of the entire film (again in a good way). The only disappointment was Dominic Cooper, whose singing has got even worse. He made Brosnan sound good by comparison! But his role is relatively minor so it doesn't matter.
The music works so much better than it did in the first film and although it starts off cheesy, there are some real heartfelt highlights, none more so in the chapel scene, which is just beautifully done. Some of the songs from the first film are reused but in really good ways, especially Mamma Mia and I Have a Dream, and others are great nods back to the original. A couple of great unexpected cameo performances too, and the ending song works brilliantly, if a little abruptly.
I laughed until my sides ached and sobbed at the end, and was singing Abba all the way home. Brilliant, pure feelgood start to the weekend, and I'll definitely be repeat viewing!
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Post by Being Alive on Jul 20, 2018 23:18:40 GMT
I loved it - unashamedly.
It’s been pitched perfectly. They’re not trying to recreate MM1 which is sensible, and they’ve moved it on to look at a plot we sort of already know, but it gets expanded on.
I normally can’t stand either Amanda Seyfried or Lily James, but thought they were both great - particularly James. She’s got a really lovely voice and actually played a Young Donna really well.
Christine Baranski and Julie walters were their usual comedy gold - and their younger selves were also hilarious. The men were fine (although Dominic Cooper was noticeably bad at singing this time round)
Meryls appearance had me in tears - I hadn’t expected to be (I laughed the entire film until then) but it caught me a little off guard.
But this film belongs to Cher. I don’t care she was only in it for 20 mins - She is an icon!!. She’s absolutely fabulous - the way Fernando is shoe horned in made me laugh so much - and she’s just sass to the max!
That finale is brilliant - such a feel good ending to a really great film.
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Post by ceebee on Jul 21, 2018 7:34:09 GMT
Saw this last night and really enjoyed it - it ticks the boxes that the first film ticked - I got totally choked at the end. Feelgood factor is 10/10, and it's great to see so many of those involved with the original theatre show carried through to this film (production/music). Go see it - like her or loathe her, Cher's cameo almost steals the show (if it wasn't for the delightful and superb Lily James).
On the subject of people singing along, I had the misfortune to be sat next to the neighbours from hell. Two overly-obese women waddled in with wheelbarrows of popcorn, plonked their numerous children into seats, handed out carrier bags full of food (must be a troughy trend for feeding kids these days - see earlier post regarding School of Rock), and then placed their sizeable backsides at the end of the row, leaving me and adults within the vicinity as proxy childminders. I despise this kind of "parenting". (I'm guessing, to rip off something Michael McIntyre once said about "Argos", it's theatre for the poor...) Anyway... I loved the film. Just not other people's disruptive brats. And off they waddled at the end, presumably to indulge themselves in more ignorant bliss.
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Post by alicechallice on Jul 21, 2018 7:59:39 GMT
Saw this last night and really enjoyed it - it ticks the boxes that the first film ticked - I got totally choked at the end. Feelgood factor is 10/10, and it's great to see so many of those involved with the original theatre show carried through to this film (production/music). Go see it - like her or loathe her, Cher's cameo almost steals the show (if it wasn't for the delightful and superb Lily James). On the subject of people singing along, I had the misfortune to be sat next to the neighbours from hell. Two overly-obese women waddled in with wheelbarrows of popcorn, plonked their numerous children into seats, handed out carrier bags full of food (must be a troughy trend for feeding kids these days - see earlier post regarding School of Rock), and then placed their sizeable backsides at the end of the row, leaving me and adults within the vicinity as proxy childminders. I despise this kind of "parenting". (I'm guessing, to rip off something Michael McIntyre once said about "Argos", it's theatre for the poor...) Anyway... I loved the film. Just not other people's disruptive brats. And off they waddled at the end, presumably to indulge themselves in more ignorant bliss. Whatever your occupation is, get that notice handed in on Monday and get a job as a Daily Mail critic of well, anything really! Film, theatre, other people's appearance... You'd be fabulous! |
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